Good morning, boneheads!
This was one of those games with “L” written all over it. Long hiatus, against their struggling Divisional rivals. Flyers were going to win one at some point, no? And our boys were bound to lose one soon. Perfect setup? Nope, they came out and pretty much tried to put away an inferior team early. You need to beat teams you’re supposed to beat in order to make playoffs. Did I say playoffs? Sure did. 21 games in, 14-4-3, 10 games over .500. Why wouldn’t I?
A few thoughts:
- Probably the most important one. They have a goaltender who is capable of winning the Cup. Shesterkin didn’t have to do much at all until that 5 minutes penalty at the beginning of period two. But when he had to step in, he was unbelievable. No words. That’s what you want from your goaltender to win it all- step up when you need him most.
- First minutes of period one- a little pond hockey, back and forth, with our boys showing who is a superior team. Then the PP. I think I would start the second PP unit first next game they play. Too many passes, most are wishful. Including a couple by Panarin. Second unit? Pass, pass, bomb from the point by Trouba. One-zip. Trouba has a heavy shot. Naturally, it’s more effective when he hits the net.
- Lafreniere isn’t afraid to do what Kreider does on PP. He is taking away goalie’s eyes, he will learn how to do it better. His game is coming together, I have no doubts. I actually thought Chytil touched Trouba’s shot.
- Speaking of Chytil. Maybe I am reading too many posts by Wicky, but he is starting to get on my nerves as well. He is the only one of the kid line who doesn’t know what to do once he enters the zone. O or D zone, doesn’t matter. I’d think he’d learn after so many years in this league.
- Let’s be honest. The Flyers are miles away from the formidable, cup contending team they were a couple of years ago. What happened exactly? No idea. I don’t care much either. I didn’t know Atkinson was dressed until they got that 5 min PP. I don’t think that Atkinson-Voracek trade was good for either team. Hayes is a shadow of himself. Though I’d give him a break after the tragedy he went through. Plus, he is coming back after injury. I forgot they had Yandle. I think all he does these days is trying to break the iron man record, and not much else. The only player I noticed was Frost. Two high stick penalties ( one resulting in goal against) and a goal.
- Hunt supplements Panarin and Strome pair to create a formidable troika very well. As did many straight line, “let’s go get the puck” players before him. Panarin will also make Dryden Hunt a millionaire if GG continues to play them together. I think Hunt will make the most of it. Just don’t expect him to make precision passes and score a lot. The shot from the slot that Hart made an “amazing” (as per Joe) save on? Panarin buries this one 10 out of 10. The moment I said it to myself last night, Hunt scores a very high skill goal. Except, apparently, he just whiffed on his shot, as per Steve.
- Kaapo Kakko. I will give a lot of credit to DQ for helping Kakko to become a player he is about to become. And that is a complete package. He will start scoring more and more, no doubt. But his game off the puck is becoming top notch. Forecheck, backcheck, work on the wall. Very impressive!
- It should’ve been at least 4-0 after first. And don’t get me started on that missed offside call. And I usually do not complain about officiating. But that was blatant.
- I actually thought Hunt left his feet on his hit. I know Braun turned his back, but still Hunt saw his numbers all the way. I am going to look again, but I thought he left his feet.
- Very similar hit by Reaves in the third. Same player, Braun. Reaves doesn’t leave his feet, no penalty. Reaves, by the way, is listed at 6-2, 225. He looks much bigger than 225 to me.
- I love watching Ryan Lindgren. He is a very smart player. It’s easy to say everyone can be smart playing with Fox, but it’s not only that. I think his ice vision is sometimes overlooked because of his physicality.
- Signing Nemeth is looking better and better. Not only he solidified their third pair position, he is also paired with Trouba on PK. And he and Trouba clear the crease very well when need to. I am still perplexed on them playing Lundkvist though. He doesn’t struggle as much anymore, but that’s about it.
- Man, that goal by Kreider at the beginning of third that put it away? Men against boys. Russian troika of 70th-80th against AHL.
- Kreider-Monster. Does anyone still have issues with his contract?
- Didn’t look good on Goodrow at all. Let’s hope GG is right, and he will be fine. They can’t really afford to have him and Blais out.
- They ended up playing with 10 forwards in the third. That’s when I thought it was very impressive. Surgical execution, they gave the Flyers ugotz!
- I was hoping with the 3-1 score Shesterkin gets his shot at EN goal. Well, another Russian did it for him. Even EN goals Panarin scores are with flair. Took it away from Giroux (woof!), and put it in the net in one motion
- Too bad Carp isn’t writing anymore because I’d like to read what he has to say about Stan Fischler. Say what you want about him, but he is a hockey legend.
- I think I have to give some incentives to people in order for them to fill the ledge. It’s been empty for some time, and I see plenty of spider webs.
- Speaking of incentives. There will be another ticket contest tomorrow.
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191 responses to “Rangers-4, Flyers-1”
Post updated for Staple’s article. He did beat me to it 🙂
Well done ilb, thank you.
I think the eventually address the 6th D spot with a veteran rental. Especially if they are going to make the playoffs. I’m not a big Vally guy, but he mentioned last night that Braun is considered a “turner” around the league. Found that interesting.
Didn’t get to watch the game. With the retirement of Carp, ilb steps in admirably…. Kinda like Shesterkin replacing Hank? Lol
Are half the fan base still rooting against them?, or is everyone on board now?
Had to make some corrections on the fly, lol. Where is an editor when you need one? 🙂
Made another one just now, lol. I am going to stop reading it.
I think Kakko game has a lot to do with this coach trusting him. The previous coach would have dropped him down in the lineup because he had not scored a point yet. This coach was patient, was able to see how hard Kakko was playing, and has the vision to see that they are going to need Kakko. Dropping him down, and hurting his confidence, would hurt the team in the long run.
Great job ILB
Agree with everything
Except I don’t think hunt left his feet. He was pivoting backward and as they say the momentum of the contact simultaneous had that natural lift
Thank goodness they killed off the 5 min
The saves with Troubas stick we’re very exciting
Trouba playing awesome right now.
During a good stretch Gallant switched up his top 6. Not that’s a confident coach. And it worked.
don’t think 6th D spot is a problem..they have plenty of Defensive depth right now if needed …
trust the coach who seems to know what he’s doing …if they do anything it will be up front…hopefully for a center
They have plenty of young D depth.
Just a thought on face shields. I guess they are not made of something that is unbreakable. The way Goodrow went off last night it looked to me like a serious eye injury. Hope he is OK. In the future whoever manufactures this equipment should look into changing whatever it is made of. Hell of a way to end a career. I remember seeing Bernie Parrent taking a stick to the eye many years ago. Since then The Flyers have had nothing but trouble in goal. I believe after his injury face mask design changed to protect the eye socket better.
Great write Ilb! A boring win v the Filth, will take it every time.
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Salmon Joe feeling sorry for Filth is just about the last straw with those Two Stooges. Really annoying to listening to them to babble on about nothing every game.
Sam’s game call…’good play by…’ Joe’s ‘color’…NYR is struggling again. I feel bad for Sam, he is done but Joe is inexcusable; really sux at his job.
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In another age like last season or so, McEwen might have started up something but I guess he didn’t want a shiner on the right side to match the one on his left. Quiet as a church mouse. Wonder why because there is no such thing as a deterrent I have been told over and over…
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Claude Giroux…bwahahahahahaha. Crusty the clown show; how much is he stealing from them every game. Weak sauce.
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Elaine is softer than a mashed potato sandwich; made Eunuchs out of these men. Damn shame.
Great recap ilb! I love reading those points. I agree with all of them and said some to myself during and after the game. Mainly they can’t afford to have Blais and Goodrow out. Might have been Fox’s worst play (not the first period) in his career last night. Third was better for everyone.
I wasn’t able to watch last night but notice in the stat sheet that Gauthier only played 8:29 despite the rangers being down a forward. Was there any mention of that during the game or post-game? I also saw a clip of a very salty Georgiev giving Igor a less than perfunctory congratulations after the game.
Chytil may eventually figure it out and become what he was drafted to be. However what is needed now is a quality 3C. Imagine Kadri between Lafreniere and Gauthier? I’m not saying that he available just making my point.
Also I will say it again the Rangers desperately need a quality back up NOW!
BW. I think it was a simple as when hunt and Goodrow went down it was easier to manage throwing 3 lines out there and Goat was the odd man out. Easier to keep rhythm that way at that point.
When hunt was out goat got a couple shifts up with strome I beleive.
Also. The PK time kept him off the ice too.
Georgy porgy needs to go
Bring up kinkaid. A much happier teammate who played fine last year. I believe even had a shutout
So riddle me this how hard did the Refs try to change the momentum of the game? Hunt gets maybe a double minor, 5 and a game misconduct? BS!
Reaves on in the last minute of games that are decided has definitely deterred any and all shenanigans
Ps. He is a smart player who doesn’t go out of his way to be a rat (at least at this point). Doesn’t take dumb penalties.
He is a great addition. A few years late, but I’ll take it
Giroux still a damn good player….center that is gonna be on the block at deadline also
We be of the only gluttons for punishment that would start something with Reaves the last minute would be Matthew Barnaby
I still remember him taking his licks from chara. That dude liked getting punched in the face. He also let his emotions get the best of him.
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Well done, ilb. You’re going to spoil us with 20 thoughts on your list. I’ll take a boring win anytime — a sure sign that GG has righted the ship, hopefully for a long time to come. Those boys are having fun out there.
@cregg7 – that makes sense. I hadn’t realized that Goodrow was out.
Who’s this “Hurt” that made an amazing save per Joe Miss-a-plenty?
OK, raise your hand if you thought NYR would be tied for second in the division in early December. Nobody? Me neither. GG and his staff are hitting all the right notes. Henk Jr, Boy George and Flip-flop are the weak links, but they can be replaced from inside (3RD, 2G) and out (3C). Also want another big banger to play with Reavo on 4th line.
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Kakko is a wizard with that puck on his stick. Looks like a yo-yo in the way he dangles it. Kid has more hockey smarts than Meeka already. Could have 30 assists if he keeps it up. Impressive.
BobbyO – would take Krusty at a deadline deal; give the Filth in return Flip-flop and Henk Jr. Prefer JT as he has an extra year on his deal.
Poly Prep needs either a new suit or a crash diet.
William Hurt? Altered States of consciousness.
Flip flop is too funny
Ilb I mentioned your #12 while watching the game with the Filthy friend. Nemeth has been pretty solid/stable out there, still perplexed on the attachment to Nils.
Agree on your #9 and disagree with BDL that DQ would have put him down lineup for not scoring. DQ was likely to move you for not doing the things you should be doing with/without the puck and those you should not. Scoring was definitely secondary, he wanted the kids to learn to play a 200′ game foremost.
Brooksie is hitting the crack pipe if he thinks Strome is only getting 5 or 5.5 as UFA. Hard to see anything below 6 the way teams chase after free agents, especially centers. Sign him yesterday if you can do it for 5 or 5.5
Don’t see them making deals with Flyers anyway SN but agree if they are moving young assets that they get back center with term …easier said than done
I’m more than OK with Nemeth being our Jay Wells.
We haven’t had one since, well, since Jay Wells
My amped social senses tell me that Georgie is not especially liked in the room. Kookooo Kostco being effusively praised and back-patted by coaches on bench. Appears to be a confidence boost plan in play. Working.
SN,
Do you think Salmon Joe are like that themselves, or do you think that they’re told to be like that by their bosses? In other words, if new people came in, would they just be saying the same garbage? (Complimenting the other team, etc.)
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Move over, Batman!
There’s a new hero in town and his name is Igor!
Aged Micheletti attempting the Quinn curl but he hasn’t the follicle strength.
What a great Nation we are at base. The common man screaming for an Igor!
I’ve read a ton of grief dealing posts regarding Nemeth this season. From what I’ve been seeing since I’ve had a bit more time to actually watch some games is that he seems to have to fend off big time scoring opportunities while also cleaning up his partner’s mistakes out there. No one is going to confuse the guy with Roman Josi but I don’t see what all the fuss is about unless he was really putrid compared to how he’s played the last 4-5 games.
It’s a bad situation when Joe calls a snow angel the ‘perfect play’. It’s a terrible play going down like that it just happened to be the right play at the time and it worked.
As for Nils. I know some of you walk around with a roll of nickels in your pocket thinking about all that offense he can provide, but maybe it’s time to solidify that third d-pairing with a defender.
My two concerns still remain the lack of a quality 3C/faceoffs and the goal differential. Both have to improve if they do in fact get a chance at the second season. When I heard them discussing Laf and Goat communicating in French when they’re on the ice, I was thinking about how nice it would be to have a big 2-way center that was French-Canadian playing between those two guys.
I guess they didn’t like Kravtsov and Buchnevich communicating in Russian on the ice…
Ilb – I’ve looked at the CBA and am unclear about player obligation, if any, when given an offersheet.
1- In most cases financially it would be in their best interest to sign but I don’t see anything that says they are actually obligated to sign an unsolicted offer sheet?
2- If they get an offer sheet of $6m for 5yrs can they still negotiate with current club, prior to signing the offer sheet? IE, could they go to current team and say “I’d like to stay, can you do $5.5 for 6?” or perhaps slightly less money than the offer but with NMC/NTC? Or would all of that be considered ‘circumvention’?
Scottsdale- not sure; producers may be whispering sweet nothings in their ear to make them be impartial to a fault. Not wanting Jackwaggon Adams in the booth but Joe can’t seem to wait for the wheels to Come off; loves it when NYR is struggling. It’s a little weird.
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Sam is an icon; he is just here longer than he should be and forever cursed this franchise with his sheet call after 94 Cup win. A Lifetime? How many does he think we have?? I guess if one was born in 1941, he is damn near clairvoyant.
Jackwaggon Edwards, not Adams.
James:
St. Andrews ‘College’ upper school: “Our well-established Extended French program is designed to enable a student to be conversationally literate in our second national language by the end of Grade 12.”
Attended by a certain Morgan Barron 2015-2017
Some countries hold grudges for thousands of years. We drive Volkswagens, Hondas, Toyotas and Benzes by the multi-millions. And we root vociferously for Igor!
I am always ready to admit when I am wrong. Earlier this year I said that Shesterkin may not be the answer to the Rangers goaltending issues. From what I have seen so far this year he does look like that guy. He has been amazing can he keep it up? I believe he can, but they better find a viable back up.
Think Sam on his own (or without a clown next to him) would be ok and more focused on the play by play than engaging prattle from color guy.
Highly likely there is pressure/ground rules from ownership not to speak badly of the team/players as Dolan is not good with criticism.
Friend of mine graduated from Holy Cross with a major in French. Years back we’re at a bar watching some March Madness, and there’s a comely Parisian au-pair sitting next to us. I nudge him and suggest to him to impress the girl with his knowledge of French and he says: “You kidding? I can’t speak French…”
Minx – still a relatively small sample size. Long seasons and do it more than once. That’s not to take away from overall good performance so far this year. And stay away from the MRI machine and Russian drivers!
5 years Ilb…5 years of “experience” in the nhl (various lengths).
It’s an expectations thing that some have for a first round reach pick (it’s what was said by the organization taking a “chance” on a player with their second first round pick in a draft) that plays one zone and has some YouTube highlights.
He’s not going to be what the fanboys want him to based on YouTube, he isn’t. He’s not that guy and doesn’t have the fortitude required to be that guy in the nhl, he just doesn’t.
It’s just unrealistic expectations for the poor guy by many.
Dolan has fired basketball guys like SalmonJoe over the years for being (what he considered) too critical comments.
Sam sucks. It’s not joe that makes the tandem worse, it’s Sam…he’s horrible.
Joe is palatable away from Sam.
Beezle
That was kind of my point when I said can he keep it up. I then said I believe he can, doesn’t mean he will.
The team most likely will add a vet d man regardless of the nils spot. Most teams in the playoffs go 8 or 9 d men deep. If they add a vet d it will be regardless of the nils spot, not because of it.
Not difficult at all to see Schneider (we can all hope) in the nils spot sooner than later and then add a vet d man at some point as well.
Sam, I was taking to…
We were talking about…
I talked to him this morning Sam, and…
We talked about that earlier, Sam…
I had a chance to talk to him..
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Beezle, I know only the first part. Players have no obligation to sign an offer sheet. I do not know whether they can use an offer sheet in order to negotiate a better contract with their current team. I wouldn’t think so, but I do not know for sure. once the offer sheet is signed, however, it’s a contract.
Speaking of strome and contracts…I was listening to a pod a couple of days ago (sorry, don’t don’t remember what pod but I think it was a Vince M. comment/interview) and he said strome is very important in the room as well as on the ice (that sounds really really familiar).
He had heard over the past season or two whispers about them moving strome but now that he’s back around the team and players again and hearing and seeing what’s going on in house regularly, he’s not so sure they ever really wanted to part with him or intend to (paraphrasing). He said it’s going to be interesting to see if they can keep him and how it gets done if they do, but he’s 100% sure he a lot more important than many people think on and off the ice to the organization and his teammates.
I’d love to see them keep him and get a real nhl centre in the Chytil spot, just not sure how that gets done with respect to the cap….not sure I see a path realistically to doing that.
Nils isn’t playing bad enough to hurt them, and he’s not contributing in any meaningful way to help them.
Strome would have to take a significant home town discount for them to sign him.
At some point the Rangers FO has to come to the conclusion that Strome is actually a good player, and not a Panarin made fluke.
I listened to that as well Wicky. I also listen to The Cold Stove podcast. They think he’s traded as part of a deal to upgrade the number two center spot.
And yeah, Philip Danault would have looked awfully good between Lafrenier and Gauthier. Oh well.
Ilb
Re #14
Yes, I still think he’s overpaid and the easiest higher dollar contract to replace with a lower one that gives “similar” on ice ability.
We can all get together and hold hands around lit candles and chant his name, but he’s been enigma for years for a reason. I really hope he breaks the franchise goal record this year and continues his goal scoring pace for the rest of his career. While that would all be great, I’m going to guess this doesn’t continue for the life of his contract and while it’s awesome at the moment, last year he spent time as a third liner and pp role player. At some point the cap might become an issue and he’s more replaceable (as the enigma, not current goal pace) from within than a lot of other guys.
Overall, personally I want the rangers to keep him as long as the cap permits it and I really want him to keep up this goal pace and break the franchise record on the way to lifting the Cup as one of the 47 “A” wearers of the team.
Wicky,
In talking about Kreider and his contract last year, I said that you could expect one career year, and down year, and 5 of his norm. 20 goals and 40 points. This season is shaping up to be his career year. I also think that Gallant trusts, and believes in him, and that is big for Kreider.
I actually thought the Rangers were mocking Bazooka Joe in the 3rd period?
SN,
You don’t actually believe that the reason the Rangers haven’t won a cup since ‘94 is because of the dopey thing that Sam said? I realize that you’re not the only one that has said that.
Vince in that same podcast compared Strome, and JT Miller. Using real numbers, and fake numbers. Strome came out ahead according to Vince. I’m not really sure how you compare two players who’s styles are very different. To me that would not be about numbers, but about what is your style preference.
According to heat maps:
1) Chytil has been great this year. I’m still not seeing it.
2) Lundkvist has been good despite having Nemeth as a partner. Nemeth is bad expect for PK. I’m not seeing it.
3) NYR continue to win only because of Igor. And if he wasn’t on the team (stupid argument), they’d be 3-14-3. I think Igor has done his job exceptionally, and I had questions about him coming into the season too. But they have also won because they have some guys that know how to do that when they’re no playing their A game.
4) Unsustainable.
Problem is the new fan uses heat maps as the Bible. It’s part of the story for sure, but not end all, be all.
Wish it weren’t either or. JT in the middle of Laf and GOAT could be interesting.
“The Team is in Heat!”
“Didja check that Team for Heat?!”
Nemeth has been just fine. Georgie boy is taking up too much cap space going forward for what he brings. Move will need to be made eventually.
If you are watching the games, and then using the heat maps as a way to add to the enjoyment of watching the game, I’m good with that. Problem with most, not all heat mappers, is that they don’t watch the games, and they use the heat maps as a way to decide who’s good, and who’s not. Who played well, and who did not.
Regarding Strome. I don’t think it’s a forgone conclusion they can’t fit his new contract under the Cap. In fact, I think they can, and if I have some time I’ll show it using specific numbers and players.
But I always tend to think teams keep the players they want to keep. They find ways.
Serious question…. is a heat map needed to locate brunch location?
Hank gives you +1.5 mil, Beverly costs you -.5 mil, georgiev plus his replacement give you +1.5 mil…that’s an additional 2.5 mil.
If Barron replaces Chytil, that’s another (roughly) +1.5 mil.
That’s addressing the Chytil spot issue with Barron though and not considering a player add that might be more than a rental.
Also not taking into consideration Blais and other contracts that are upcoming.
We need a capologist on staff 😉
ilb one of those ways is moving or demoting Georgie….that frees up 1.5 M
Brunchers don’t use Heat Maps. They use Sterno Maps.
If they need to make a move that involves freeing up money they’ll demote Georige. It seems clear as day that Igor is going to be the one playing. The tandem days are over. So it Georgiev’s tenure as a Ranger by end of the season.
Gauthier’s limited minutes probably just GG shortening up the bench after Goodrow got hurt. He’s not exactly a defensive wizard.
Beezle- you would be the guy to point that out to me. Thanks 🙂
Subtract Boy George and Flip-flop from cap to sign Stromeo and let the Red Baron play 3C this or next season, albeit unlikely turn of events.
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Goodrow can handle this season when things tighten up in the Spring if Baron is not ready. Given all the Cap space accrued, a couple of rentals could be coming onboard.
Chris Cristie for goaltender. Arf…Arf…
Scottsdale – don’t believe in curses and I’m only 26 so plenty of time…
One of Horvat or Miller is probably realistic by the deadline. Until then I mean, dissect it all you want but they’re 14-4. They’re tied 2nd in the East. Who is a much better team? Not Washington. Carolina? Maybe. In fact let’s say yes. That’s one team that’s better than them in the East. That’s a far far cry from where they team had been before Drury took over. No reason to be all EV about their current lineup : D
With that said, to win in the post season they need help at center. At this point the letters c, e, n, t, and r are worn off on my keyboard so I’ll leave it at that.
(waiting to see which of you go to tell me that I left out the other e after not reading the post closely enough)
GOOD TIDING WE BRING
TO YOU AND YOUR KIN
GOOD TIDINGS FOR
OH. sorry…
Someone needs to capture a GIF of the Boy George exchange with Igor after the game last night.
#DeadManWalking
The Toxic Avenger doesn’t know what to do with his teams winning so much. Hope his dog is behaving…
It will be interesting to see how aggressive, or reluctant Drury is to include one or more of the prospects in a trade. The insiders, and the beats all say Schneider is untouchable. That leaves Niks, Jones, and Robertson on D. Cuylle (invited to team Canada junior camp), Othman, and Barron upfront are likely to be asked for.
Very masterful judge of talent by the Pizza Man. Jettison Miller to comlete the deal.
Next game, watch Flip flop in Dzone when the other team has the puck versus when NYR gets possession. He looks like Floating Flip and then he turns into a blend of the roadrunner and Popeye after downing a can of spinach.
I’ll just leave this here
ilb, I also thought Chytil tipped Truba’s shot ever so slightly on the goal.
The Filth are not a contender so I won’t get too worked up about the victory. Some positives to take away but they need to learn to not take their foot off the gas after going up 3-0. A game that would have been closer last year or two but for their improved play defensively and away from the puck.
I thought Bread’s EN goal shouldn’t have counted. Looks to me like he got his stick up in Claude’s hands when he stole the puck. Refs put their whistles away early trying to avoid shenanigans?
Wow, Georgie had quite the sour puss on at game’s end. Forecasting changes are afoot?
Kappo has one more year of NHL experience than Alex and it shows. Both will be important core players for years to come.
Let’s hope Goodrow is ok.
That JT goal reminds me of the McDavid goal against the Rangers.
ILB’s review is Carpworthy. I am starting to face the reality that I may have underestimated Igor. He may be the real thing.
Sam’s call when they won the Cup instantly began a new curse that the Rangers would not win another Cup while anybody alive in 1994 is still alive. It’s held so far. That would be one lengthy Cup drought. The last few years have been tough as a fan, other than the lottery wins. It’s nice to see that perhaps the Rangers window is reopening.
The dark years were brutal under the hedgehog
It is obvious to me the reason Drury hasn’t landed a 3C. GM’s are asking for 1 or 2 of Schneider, Barron, Cuylle, or Othman? These 4 are important futures and aren’t going anywhere unless the return is breathtaking. The Minx has Spoken!
The Hedgehog Pandemic?
Malcolm Subban to the Baby Buffalo’s.
Only games I can think of where the Rangers really looked outclassed this year were the 2 against Calgary and opening night against Washington. Sure they had a couple of games they maybe should have lost and Igor stole it, but the goalie is a player too. Other teams don’t apologize when their goalies turn into Tretiak against us. When a goalie gets scorching hot in the playoffs, watch out, who knows what can happen then.
So they would rather have Slewfoot’s little brother than Boy George?
St Pete
Those 4 should be pretty untouchable IMO as well. You’ve got decent prospects in not q, Chytil, Jones, krapsoft (selling low), as well as first and second round picks to utilize. Unless drury is aiming for the moon, there’s more than enough in the cupboard to overpay and still not do medium or long term damage to the organization.
Forgot to mention… Thanks, ilb for upping your game and providing a review. Wish I could watch a game or two with you!
Lindqvist, Jones, Robertson should be the names in play along with draft picks
bobbyo
Agreed Chytil and Whinesoft in the conversation as well.
If we’re giving up on 22 year-old Filip Chytil, what’s wrong with Barron and Goodrow as 3rd and 4th centers (in whichever order you like)?
BW
Goodrow is better on line 4 and Barron will probably spend the entire year in Hartford working on playing pivot.
Barclays Arena is a Swiss Army knife; can play any line, but most effective in shutdown role in bottom six.
Is Slinging Sammy done for the season?
@St. Pete Eli: Agree. I’m looking to next year. I’d rather see Barron get a full year at center under his belt (assuming that’s where they’re using him in Hartford). The question then becomes: do you go fo skill at RW of top line with Chytil or, dare I say, Kravtsov, or keep the go-fer up there?
Add your consternation.
Trading Chytil because he isn’t the guy you need on your team or because his realistic nhl play level doesn’t meet the ridiculous pipe dream expectations some fans incorrectly placed on him is not giving up on him. It’s simply moving him to get a player that fits better (from within the organization or outside) in the lineup than he does.
There’s nothing with Chytil that is being “given up on”, he is what he is.
Wicky: on 11/1: https://rangersreport2.wordpress.com/2021/11/01/last-game-review-by-carp/#comment-416404
I had the cap at 82, in fact it is projected at 82.5
Here are the details: http://p.ip.fi/-eZl
Great recap, ilb. Thank you.
Seems a lot of yous are very low on Nils.
He needs time to adapt and build confidence.I believe/hope somewhere inside that sweater there’s a wicked shot, a great passer and a smooth skater we will enjoy for years.
Just my five cents
BW
Me too. The thing is Chytil doesn’t fit what this team needs at 3C. That along with a solid RD for the 3rd pair and a quality back up goalie is what gives them a really good shot at going deep if they do make the playoffs.
Just don’t know with Heatle California. He’s improving and talented. Sometimes he shocks me, other times he looks lost.
Don’t think anyone is low on Lundqvist for the future. More for the now.
How do you solve a problem like Fil Chytil (it scans if you squint sideways)? Gallant seems to like that kid line but they’re not putting too many picks in the net. On the right side they have KK, hunt, Sammy Baugh, Reaves and possibly kravtsov. Throw Chytil in the mix (if you’re signing Strome and don’t think Chytil is a 3c type (which is hard to argue against), that’s a lot to choose from. Never mind Big Red Barron. The depth has served them well this year
It would be different if Nils were 6’2 and 210 or more. He’s 5’11 and 187, only 4lbs more than the Fox pony. And Lindgren, tough as he may be, is only 6’1 191.
Even if Nils starts putting up some points, the defensive skill needs to be high to offset the negative on size, especially come playoff time. Unfortunate that he doesn’t have Hayek’s better size (6’3, 206).
Heat maps are for getting a good crank on the ole shaft…..no other use…..
Cheadle sux. Nils isn’t much better. Georgie is the worst net minder in the league.
OK kids, have at it. Here is your cap google spreadsheet link. It runs through 2030/31 for your managerial pleasure.
Please let me know if there are any errors and I’ll fix the original. You can grab a copy of your own from the link (file/download or file/copy if logged into a google account)
Have to give Gorton credit for ability to build teams. May not be a coincidence that the Bruins jettisoned him before winning.
Flip flop, Cheadle taken a bath
Early on a Saturday night
Splash splash, rub in the tub
The lad has zero fight
Don’t ever come down
Freebase
The hedgehog absolutely sucked at building here. He publicly “claimed” to be doing one thing, but not only did he not do what he claimed, he did just enough of the opposite of what he claimed to leave this organization smack dab in nowhere. Dark years and then some under the stewardship of him and the big lazy.
BW
That’s the whole point re Chytil and why you move on from him…he isn’t a fit at centre or wing here.
Maybe they should try him as backup goaler?
The real squeeze will come in 24-26. Even with another round of bridge deals to Kakko and Laffy and with a 2C at 4.5M, they will need to part ways with at least one of Kreider, Trouba and likely Lindgren too in 25/26. And that is paying Igor 8.5 in 25/26.
They can probably find a way to get through 24/25 with an 85 cap, but 25/26 they will need to move on from at least one big contract, maybe more depending how Kakko and Laf deals shake out (bridges vs big paydays).
I see that Joe Micheletti is doing the Uniondale/Brooklyn/Elmont match on MSG+ tonight. Please tell me he’s been shipped back to that team, where he truly belongs.
Just a matter of time until we have the best record in the league
Micheletti has imitation Quinn curl tattooed on his forehead.
Zibanistan has some of the best records in the League.
Chytil for Tomas Hertl.
I think Gorton did a good job (whether through luck or otherwise) rebuilding the youth. Remember they went years without a first round pick through the 2010s. He also drafted Bergeron, Marchand, etc. if I’m not mistaken.
Did not follow through on bringing in grit, no doubt.
Does Hertl speak French?
Micheletti will be doing some AzzDancer games (where he belongs) as Goring goes out for surgery.
If Hertl becomes a Meth addict, he can compete in the next Olympics in the High Hertls.
If someone would hire my husband and send him back on the road, I’d be willing to throw in $30,000. – Mrs. John Tortorella
So they called up Barron (and re-signed Gauthier)
Does that imply that Goodrow is going to miss the next game?
And as far as the evening convo here goes-
You stack prospects and once you have a team that’s playoff competitive, you do what you need to do to make the team better if you can do it.
We’ve been saying it for 2+ years. There is no scenario where they have an NHL roster that includes Nils, Fox, Jones, Schneider Robertson Miller . So unless the plan is to hang on to them and play them in Hartford until they’re in their late 20s, guys will get moved.
Barron up for Kegger who is in COVID protocol.
Goodrow stitched and GG expects him to play.
Forget about D for a moment and consider that Drury may want to be on the look out for goalie depth.
Take a look at what teams are going through due to goalie injuries and issues.
Igor has been awesome but when you have questionable back up goaltending you’re only a pulled groin or strained knee away from a potential disaster.
I’d look out west for some potential guys that could be had at the deadline.
Damn it, Kegger. COME ON! 🤷🏻♂️
Coos,
Torts just put in an application with us via a nanny agency.
$22/hr, no holidays and “cook your own ^}*#* food you wretched lil #*#*%.”
…we’re still considering candidates..
Or a sniper.
Elmont Mr. Ed’s lose to the Sharks and remain winless at home.
LOL Islanders succcccccckkkkkkkkkk. It brings me tears of joy to watch their Stanley Cup hopes dashed away.
Azzdancers have yet to win in new arena…bwahahahahahahahahahaha. Anson Carter waid they should be happy to get a point.
Sorokin is very good. They should have lost 5-1. Missing two centers on a team that doesn’t score ain’t a good thing. Damn Shame.
The post game feels like a wake.
Not ready to give up on Chytil but would like to see him on the wing
With the last playoff game on July 7, teams making it to Conf Finals lost out on recovery time during the summer. TB is doing just OK, Vegas is meh, but Habs are a tire fire, Azzdancers are DOA.
Flip Flop is not a gamer; primary focus is on him scoring first and foremost. Doesn’t look for linemates; must suk playing wing on his line.
2 Assists in 18 games don’t lie; 39 in 204 games for his career does not scream ‘puck distributor’.
Barron is not someone you call up to be the extra forward. Wonder what is up.
Beezle
i think Reaves stays. Nemeth goes. And Kakko gets a lot more than 2.5
Hasn’t Baron been an extra forward mostly every time he has been called up?
Chi over Craps; Sens over Carolina
As of this morning.
Only 1 team would have more points than the rangers if the rangers won their potential games in hand on them
Meaning
Toronto 35 points in 24 games
Rangers 31pts in 21 games. If rangers got a max 6 pts from those 3 games in hand. The rangers would be at 37pts in 24 games.
Rangers 31pts in 21 games.
Leafs 35pts in 24g
Panthers 33pts in 22g
Caps 33pts in 23g
Canes 31pts in 21g
Bolts 27pts in 21g
Wild 31pts in 22g
Flames 31pts in 22g
Oilers 32pts in 21g
Oilers. 1 pt
The rangers are 1 pt off the top team in the league (pts per. Game) at the quarter pole.
Now the challenge is to keep winning and keep playing the right way in order to keep stacking pts and try to stay at the same pace they are at now, to the all star break/half way mark.
Seems huge. But it’s not. First off it’s day by day and shift by shift.
But secondly it’s two 11 game clips. Columbus to this morning. 3 weeks time. 8 games. December will be more condensed.
Getting to the halfway mark is a 10 game clip heading into the Xmas break and a 12 game clip coming out of it culminating in a game again Carolina in Carolina…
1st clip is gonna be a dec3rd-dec22nd. 20 days
Dec3rd sharks
4th hawks
7th @ hawks
8th avalanche
10th @ sabres
12th preds
14th @ avalanche
15th @ coyotes
17th golden knights
22nd canadiens
(3 sets of back to back, no matinee games)
I love this segment of the schedule and the opportunity it presents. 3 sets of back to backs. Potential 12 pts within them. Clear oasis in sight with the Xmas break.
Go get it boys.
Battle by battle Shift by shift period by period game by game.
But it’s nice to be able to see the path in bigger chunks. Allows for more confidence in knowing what’s ahead of you
Mind you the rangers should have never let the oilers win that game in the 1st place
Big month for Georgie. Hope his teammates let him know they got his back bc they need him this month and it would be very beneficial to Georgie situation going forward if he can have a good month.
I’d be hoping to give Georgie 2 starts in a row coming up real soon. Hope he impresses in the 1st to allow us to have the confidence to play him in the 2nd.
Let’s go boys.
This 1st 10 game clip begins tonight. Be ready to play. Don’t get comfortable or happy over November’s record.
Do it again in December. That’s how you become a well oiled winning machine.
Know how to win.
Have the goods to win.
Create challenges within the schedule. Expect to meet them.
Work to meet them.
georgie sleeps with the fishes
filip chytmaps
Gorton will be looking to make moves in Montreal and maybe has some interest in Kravtsov and some other yound Dmen…..Dvorak, Toffoli, Armia all could be of interest
Alex when I put that spreadsheet together, my thought was they would do the typical 2yr RFA deal, similar to Chytil. Also it was prior to Gabriel’s recent tear.
The number may go up a bit if he keeps chipping in, but still believe the first attempt will be a 2yr RFA deal at “reasonable” money. If they get forced into matching an offersheet they probably will but offersheets are hardly a 100% certainty, if anything the opposite.
Good morning, boneheads!
Doesn’t look like anything negative on Goodrow front. We will have to watch throughout the day.
Ticket contest post at noon.
The Post has learned that president-general manager Chris Drury and the pending unrestricted free agent center’s representatives have begun to engage in talks aimed at maintaining the Strome-Artemi Panarin connection well beyond this season.
Georgie boy in net tonight
Speaking of offer sheets. The AAV for each compensation tier has gone down slightly comparing to last season. The average player salary last year was lower than the previous year, triggering a decrease in the AAV ranges for each offer sheet compensation tier.
In Kappo’s case, anything over $10,279,829 AAV triggers 4 first rounders. That, for instance, means a 7 year deal at $7,343,445
Gorton will offer sheet a ranger
Book it
Gorton is going to trade anything that is not nailed down.
James the number to know: 49.8 (including Fox) is locked on six players until 24/25 season. Beyond a playoff rental, the best use of any kids not eyed as near future replacements on the big club is to move up in the draft. Essentially rolling the player development foward another few seasons to when they can free up a chunk of cap (Kreider, Trouba).
Why didn’t anybody tell me it was bolted down!?
Pietry goes first.
Petry.
It’s certainly complex to a degree, Beez.
In 2-3 years they may very well be contending for the Cup.
Not really the point in time where you don’t look to improve the team.
Cant realistically see them holding onto all of those assets for 3 years. At that point they’re just 25 year old AHLers
Jones is the most likely to be traded. They have Fox, and if he’s not traded, Nils, to handle the O from the D.
Gallant to Room: “Boys, by now everyone here knows that the door to my office is always
open and I think it’s the work of Panarin and Lafreniere. Put the door back, jokers!”
Keep Jones, deal Miller.
Dish Petry. Uh, I mean, Petry Dish.
Coos wait until they bring Staal back as that depth defensemen everyone wants!
‘Big stick, Joe…’
Jeff Moulsen might not approve of offersheeting a Ranger since the last time they they tried that it didn’t end well for the Habs. Then again, how often does the opportunity arise to get a French Canadian kid who was picked 1st overall?
Anson Carter doing post game for Isles last night. He didn’t seem to have his heart in it. Isn’t there a former Isle they can call in?
Well with Laffy all but gone to Montreal I guess they should probably plan on selling at the deadline.
I’m sure Lou Lam and Yzerman will fleece Drury during the fire sale too.
Right?
BDL
I think with their backs to a wall they’d part with Robertson over Jones.
And I’m not a fan of that idea.
I believe that Robertson-Schneider could be a pair on this blue line for a long time.
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With the talk by some of dealing Miller, isn’t it too early to give up on a player w/ so much potential? He’s young, big, skates very well and hasn’t been playing the position his whole “career”. It’s a fact that D men take longer to develop. I think it would be a long line of teams that would be interested.