I’m getting too old to wait for good things to happen, top down incompetence. When will this Cotton Candy Crew be able to crush the enemy and take no prisoners?
jpp
I just happy the minx is back
Where’s Wicky?
Bdl
Kreiders post game comments were interesting. i think we can deduce who he was not talking about. That would Phil D, Rooney, Blackwell, and Lemieux. Question is, was he going big game hunting, Zibanejad and Panarin. Those two are clearly the biggest culprits.
Bdl
You would have to think at noon today, Smith gets put on waivers.
Beezle
DQ post also brought up how they were chasing themselves defensively because of turnovers trying to force offense. Another last year problem come back again.
Beezle
Think ORF said they’re lucky no fans but I think the opposite. Hearing the boos could be a wake up call too.
James bluebird -10 morning here! At least there’s something crisp and refreshing to look forward to
James G
Won’t happen w/ Smith BDL. That would be sensible.
tommyG
The rangers are a flawed team. Mixture of veterans and rookies. Rangers are the youngest team in hockey. They are very weak at center, probably the 2nd most important position in hockey behind goaltending, have some players playing out of position. JD and Gorton have there work cut out for them to figure out how to correct these issues.
James G
St Pete welcome back.
Pete
For cap reasons alone Smith should be in taxi squad on off days. No one is claiming him at that salary.
They have to bring on another center who can actually play the position ASAP. Joked before about sending Tony to Calgary for Bennet, tho doubt they’d take him, but maybe Howden, Hajek or Gauthier would get it done.
St Pete Eli
tommyG
Spot on the 2 most important positions in hockey and we suck at both so far! I suppose we could add DQ to the mix
St Pete Eli
And because of the deficiency at center the young wings suffer and get disciplined by our Preppy coach.
Bdl
Just finished watching the game again, Kreider definitely referring to Panarin and Zibanejad. Shift after shift the two of them went sideways. Buchnevich hasn’t scored in a bit, but man is he playing good hockey. Kakko was good away from the puck, and along the boards. Miller was a roller coaster. Some great, some not so much. Lindgren strong. An angry Trouba is a good Trouba. He was angry last night.
Bdl
Back in the dark days, Sam and JD used to drive me crazy. They never acknowledge how bad the Rangers were. You’d think they perennial cup contenders in those days, not a mess who had not made the playoffs in ages. Well the beats are doing the same thing. See no evil. Speak no evil. Disappointing to say the least.
Bdl
Eli,
First off, welcome back. I think part of the reason the young wingers struggle is because Zibanejad, and Panarin do there own thing. Trying to figure out what to do when playing with those guys can’t. I’m ok with Panarin playing that way, they knew this when they signed him. But your top center cannot be constantly free lancing. He needs to stay within the structure of the team.
St Pete Eli
Bdl
Thanks good to be back. Agreed, but the lack of center depth and quality is still a huge issue.
St Pete Eli
Thanks James I’m cooled down, but it did take a while. My second marriage taught me a lot, # 1 was when to keep my mouth shut lol!
Old Ranger Fan
I hope they trade down this year with their lottery pick and get a young veteran center. They don’t need another 18 year old learning at the NHL level next year. I’m also hoping for a different coach next year who does more than talk a good game.
ilb2001
What structure, BDL?
ilb2001
I think it’s time to put Shesterkin in net and give him a few games to ride it out. They’re both rusty and aren’t seeing as many shots in stretches. Time to establish number one goaltender. This isn’t working, they needed one extra save or two and didn’t get it
Bdl
Exactly Ilb.
ilb2001
Another big difference between placing Kakko and Co on waivers as opposed to Smith/JJ and other vets on waivers for cap saving purposes is that Kakko and other youngsters are being punished by losing money every day because they’re on two-way contracts. Smith/JJ and other vets are on one way contracts, they aren’t losing a penny.
ilb2001
I haven’t had time to to read Carp’s article yet, but its title says it all. If they had structure they’d be able to close one game goals. Has nothing to do with team being young. Youngsters, in fact, are easier to teach structure, if they had any.
ilb2001
I haven’t been following much after the game/next day news. Have we heard from Gorton/JD lately?
Bdl
Have not. Not unusual. Don’t normally say much till right before and right after trade deadline.
Bdl
With Blackwell getting hurt, does that make Smith a forward again? Can’t wait for that.
ilb2001
Did you see Capitals bench reaction to Chara’s first goal? He’s playing there for $795K. Jonson makes $1.1M. I wonder if Chara would’ve played for NY for $2M
Bdl
Bitetto or Hájek?
Bdl
If Bennett has requested a trade, Gorton needs to go get him.
bobbyo2019
Entire post game did not mention play of Brendan Smith or face off horrors ….Zibanejad is obviously hurt …he’s a mess
Bdl
He’s playing 20+ minutes a night. How hurt could he be.
jpp
What I take from the goalie rotation and the comments valley cat made last night.
They want to do this for a couple weeks so that both goalies get real practices in with Allaire so he can dial them in from a mechanics standpoint
I’ve heard on podcasts that teams aren’t practicing and aren’t gonna have many practices this season. So they are setting a set schedule to allow both goalies to get heavy workouts and on ice time with allaire, bc they know they are rusty technically.
I don’t think they would be doing this if they didn’t think it were the lesser of two evils.
Bdl
3rd straight game Zibanejad has lost a face off clean that lead directly to a goal.
Bdl
The usual suspects get the blame when things go wrong. Teflon Mika skates. If there is one player that deserves most of the blame for the teams failures, it’s the “number one center”.
Bdl
Crosby and the corpse of Malkin destroyed him at even strength last night. Men against child. Wile E. Coyote (Quinn) could not figure out how to get Zibanejad away from them. As the home team no less. Pathetic!
Scottsdale Ranger
BDL, you’re right. And I’m sorry to say but Carp seems to be Quinn’s biggest defender.
Bdl
Brooks questioning the goalie rotation. At least that’s a start.
Scottsdale Ranger
Just saw that. Carp never will.
cooscoos
The look on Smitty’s face near the end was the unmistakable look of dead man walking. He knows it.
ilb2001
BDL, I’d say Bitetto. They need to get him to play 3 games anyway, and he has some bite to his game.
cooscoos
Though they’re paid a ton, I do admire how guys like Donuts and now Kreider bite their tongues and answer the same dumb, obvious questions night after night. See below:
bobbyo2019
Sully has coached rings around Quinn in these games….without a defense
Pete
Barring a trade or Hajek solidifying a spot and Tony D learning how to be a defenseman, i think Smith is gonna be kept in this same rome(game or two here and then sit, rinse and repeat).
Definitely think Bidetto needs to get a shot as he can’t be worse than either of Tony, Johnson or Smith, and i’d say Hajek should get a stretch for the same reason.
Yea none of the writers are calling out Q or Gorton and JD for getting us to this spot and nor are they really taking the vets to task. Instead we keep hearing how this is such a young team, which is true, but it’s the veterans who have been the biggest culprits
ilb2001
They can’t win a face-off when they need to in bad way. Been that way for years. Remember what Bufallo did with Eakin? Time to get some help in that area.
cooscoos
The fact that during this stretch it’s being emphasized and ingrained in our boys to not take penalties, methinks it’s affecting our aggressiveness in front of our netminders. Old Pro Trouba, who knows the balance, did a number on Liver Lips last night to beat thg band. Almost seems he doesn’t like him.
cooscoos
YEARS, ilb. Mind-boggling.
Bdl
Never this bad though.
cooscoos
Laughed out loud last night when Kreider gave us all a lecture on North/South hockey. He’s the biggest culprit of disregarding his own advice.
James G
Rangers could have had Eakin. Or a half dozen other guys. Obviously isnt something the Rangers organization seems concerned about.
cooscoos
Few things worse than outright losing faceoffs late in your own end. We’ve been doing it for multiple seasons.
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
The Ranger roster is a puzzle with missing pieces it seems. So therefore I suppose it can be difficult for Quinny to piece together a lineup. However, he never seems to stick with his lines once a game starts. That drives me on my last nerve. You have to give a combination more than 2 minutes to see uf it works. Quinn seems to have some kind of ADD when it comes to keeping a line combo together.
And I don’t want to forget this last point which I suspect all of will agree is very cogent…..ladt night absolutely SUCKED. Quinn needs to go……and take Sam and Joe with you.
St Pete Eli
Ilb on you 9:57 post maybe they are fishing and smoking cigars with slats?
TYM
If the Rangers offered Calgary DeAngelo for Bennett, Calgary would run to take it. Tony D is far too much to offer for Bennett. Everyone here seems so enamored with Bennett……..which is fine except for the fact that if Bennett cannot get on the ice with Calgary, who’s only trimly effective center is Monaghan, what does that tell you about Bennett? He is a higher priced Howden, the differences being better on face offs and a bit meaner of a game. I have thought that the Rangers needed a guy like Eakin or Nosek for awhile, however this year the cap issues limit them from making a move like that. I do think they will make a move to get a center in here…….I just do not think that happens until after this season when they are freed from cap hell.
St Pete Eli
Pick your balls boys the lottery is on the menu!
Beezle
“That’s just winning hockey,” Kreider said. “No team in the league can just throw their sticks out there and play east-west and try to skill their way to wins. You gotta go north at some point. There’s not enough space, there’s not enough time. You gotta make their D turn. You gotta make them go 200 feet. [Instead], we’re turning pucks over the lines, turning pucks over in the neutral zone, not making them dig pucks out of corners.”
So the question really is… why? Why are the best players either obstinate, stupid, or both? Valley Kat echoed my thoughts from last night – why on earth did they allow themselves to get into a track meet with a team that has no defense? I’ll give DQ blame for not callling a TO and screaming at them but honestly your best players have to be better than that.
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
St.Pete…..picking balls is not very polite…especially in public.
Beezle
On the D’Anger/Pepe Jr penalty fear ‘issue’ – I think you guys are seeing an issue where one does not exist. DQ did not bench D’Anger because of the penalty he took on the play, it was because of an incredibly stupid and immature second penalty of yelling at the refs and slamming the door. My memory is less certain on Pepe – was it not another too many men on the ice penalty?
From what I have seen, DQ has only taken agressive action for very lazy (ie Strome w/ slashing) or very stupid penalites. True, some players may get more rope than others but that is always the case.
St Pete Eli
rich
The way you’ve put it I now see the error of my ways!
Beezle
Ilb – I doubt Chara cares about the money at this stage of his career. He got pushed out of Bean town and wanted to still be somewhere there was a chance to win this year. NYR not high up on that list of likely cup finalists.
tomk19
As I said last night: Paging Jeff Gorton. Paging Jeff Gorton.
This is a short season. Yes, the team has injuries, but he watched the hype grow in the off season while Carp and Dave Maloney and others cautioned that we weren’t as far along as people believed. Gorton has not provided enough leadership or center depth. Add to that, there is little structure from the coach and this group has been set up to fail in the eyes of the fans and the beat writers. Gorton needs to do something.
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
I wonder….would it be a bad thing to bring in Messier to teach how a face off is won. At the very least he could demonstrate how to put a hockey stick into somebodys teeth.
cooscoos
Mess is busy with Kingsbridge, the world’s largest ice-skating non Center, all surrounded still by chain-link fences and barbed wire for over a decade. LOL. Go, NYC.
ilb2001
DeAngelo on waivers.
St Pete Eli
The more I consider it Gorton really got fleeced by Yzerman in the McDonough trade.
James G
BDL,
You’re not wrong about Zibanejad but let’s take the microscope away for a minute. Gorton has designed this team so that Zibanejad HAS to be the guy. Injuries, slumps. Not allowed otherwise Strome ans Howden are 1/1A.
He’s hurt, Strome is hurt and Chytil is out injured. Gorton’s chickens have come home to roost.
As for your question-How hurt can he be? Well, Callahan once played 20+ mins a night all year with a shoulder injury. Girardi played 20 mins a night all season with a cracked patella. Both took crap for not being as effective as they would normally be. But their coaches knew that there was no filling their slot. So yeah he can actually be plenty hurt IMO.
Pete
Mess wanted to be coach and then GM of the rangers, they chose neither so don’t think he is gonna come help on faceoffs!
I don’t think Bennet would come here and work wonders, but he can win faceoffs. Issue i hear with him is that he thinks he can play top 6 and really hasn’t worked out like that thus far in his career. So he might not be happy to come here and be a bottom 6 guy either, but if he squinted hard enough he could at least envision the possibility for a top 6 role here.
On talent alone Tony is worth more for sure, which is why i suggest Calg sending us a pick back too. However, I don’t think you can discount the baggage he has associated with him (especially for a Canadian team, where he has had history from junior days) and with the expansion draft coming not sure if they would have a spot to protect him with.
The latter issue isn’t unique to Tony, which could make trading non-star guys with more than one year left (like Strome) harder this season as the GM has to have the space to keep him or expect to pay a lesser price if said player is just going to be exposed at the end of the year. At the moment there isn’t really anyone i’d be worried about losing on our end and I’d probably leave both Strome and Tony exposed as don’t think either guy would be high on Seattle’s list for different reasons
James G
Neither Georgiev nor ADA seem very inspired by their new deals.
The organization paid these guy and paid them well. No return on the investment so far. Don’t think either is going to be here long term.
Admiral Akbar
How do you go from All-star to waivers?
Admiral Akbar
Unless they’re clearing salary?
Admiral Akbar
Fishsticks should grab DeAngelo
Beezle
The D’Anger stuff is pretty surprising – waivers instead of a trade?
Pretty much everyone who’s been on the team who signed a new contract prior to this season is playing horrible.
2 exceptions: Kreider is playing kinda how he usually does in the first half of the season and jackass Johnson wasn’t on the team before but he looks like donkey poop.
ilb2001
He can easily clear, btw.
Beezle
Devils have cap room…
Admiral Akbar
Beverly couldn’t be traded??
ilb2001
Or they do not particularly care. Either way, they should’ve managed this asset better. Unless nobody around the league was willing to even talk about him in a trade. Either way, we will find out soon enough.
CCCP
Deangelo on waivers. Make room for JJ! Here he comes!
Beezle
Det, Fla, LAK, Ott all have room. I’m going to go make some popcorn, brb 😉
Pete
Imagine asking your owner to commit just under $9m to him over the next season and a half?! hard pass for just about every team i’d imagine. Hopefully someone does take him at this point, but if not means we may be stuck with him for next two years
Admiral Akbar
What a DelZaster.
James G
Eh. I’m sure he’ll clear.
I miss Joey Keane 😞
Beezle
Do any of the docs here specialize in psych issues? I worry that D’Anger may have a meltdown if not claimed
James G
Pete,
Not to mention we’ll inevitably see a
JJ-Smith pairing
James G
WAIVE EVERYONE!
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
Waivers for 77? That is monumental stupidity. Terrible asset management.
Beezle, Florida has enough problems in their own with the way they’ve handled Yandle this off-season.
However, the owner of the team was a big tRump donor who was almost nominated for secretary of the army, so…….
cooscoos
WOW! What happens if he goes un-claimed? His time here is over.
CraigWeather
On DeParler…. Rumors floating around that one of his teammates clocked him walking back to the dressing room after the game….
cregg7
If they lose for nothing instead of building trade value like he had last year , that would be extremely disappointing.
cooscoos
ther Defenseman who has no clue about defense. Laughable NHL.
TYM
Unbelievable news about DeAngelo. What a mess. Serious points off for JD and Gorton for their mishandling of this. If they had any clue Quinn was going to use him the way he did (take him off the PP and saddle him with the corpse of Jack Johnson), they should have dealt him around the draft. That trade with Arizona is now a complete disaster other than it rid them of Stepan’s high salary.
cooscoos
STOP please with the political nonsense!
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
Management can’t work out a trade involving 77? Waivers? This one may really come back to bite them in the ass…..and makes that Arizona trade a complete cluster $%=÷.
Avery signed as a free agent with Dallas…..wore out his welcome at light speed….put on waivers and we took him back…..and then Torts gelded him.
TYM
On defense for the Rangers, number 77, Charlie Foxtrot.
CraigWeather
Ev,
I wish it were lol.
It’s floating around on Twitter.
Pete
they only lose a small amount of his cap hit here tho right? this isn’t a cap move
i’d give Hajek and Bitteto a shot regardless if he clears or not
rich, they may have a greater window in the offseason, but don’t think he has ever had great trade value for many reasons
Admiral Akbar
This is a complete sheet-show from management on down to Tony.
There needs to be an explanation of this.
Locker room issue? Yes, we have the right to know. That is the only reason that makes sense to me.
Yeah – they guy was on for 9 of past 16 goals against, but he did get 2 assists last game and did seem to be more assertive last 2 games. Also got 1st unit power play time last night with Fox which looked good.
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
Smith Johnson 3rd pair. Working our way up in the world. Now we have a real defense.
Smith Johnson actually sounds like a pharmacuetical company.
This should almost guarantee another lottery pick.
TYM
I deactivated Twitter some time ago. I imagine it is blowing up now over this. JD is going to have to speak out tomorrow.
ilb2001
Pete, they are on the hook for $3.725M of his cap hit if he clears and buried in Hartford. For 2 years.
tomk19
Rick Carpiniello
@RickCarpiniello
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I think there’s an excellent chance DeAngelo will clear waivers tomorrow. Then the Rangers’ next move will be really interesting. Obviously they have a plan for him not clearing. And obviously they don’t mind if he’s claimed
cregg7
They just decimated his trade value if he goes unclaimed. Not much cap savings. Just have him sit in Quinn bin until able to entice a trade with a team desperate for D due to injury.
Penguins need help and should have some relief with LTIR I imagine.
Admiral Akbar
This is disgusting.
And then the Dirty Birds will hire Drury.
Is Gerard Gallant still available??
St Pete Eli
Does anybody in this organization know what they’re doing other than not knowing what they’re doing because they know nothing?
Please Please stop with the political nonsense I can’t take it!!!
Admiral Akbar
De non si parlo!!!
Pete
I wouldn’t want the Pitt job if i were Drury. Mario clearly insisting on going for broke with Sid and Malkin, so Drury would be a glorified yes man with no assets even really left to trade to in order to compete. They need a tear down there for sure.
If you want to be mad at Gort/JD it should be for resigning Tony in the first place, especially to a two year deal. This type of fact pattern wasn’t that hard to predict
TYM
There was clearly more to hear than is public. Benching I guy for 2 games for cursing a ref and slamming the penalty box door was an overboard reaction……..it has happened to many players before him. So this has been brewing for awhile. I wonder if we will ever get the entire story.
ilb2001
The entire thing sounds too drastic and against any logic. He must’ve done/said something dumb/disgusting.
cooscoos
‘..not that hard to predict?’
cooscoos
Pure conjecture. Interesting, but worthless.
Bdl
The beats have gone quiet on Twitter.
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
Cregg 7….you are making too much sense in regards to 77. You clearly are not cut out for being GM of the Rangers. I mean it really seems if you are actually thinking about these things logically….how novel.
jpp
I was just trying to search for the rumors about one of the guys punching him on the way back to the locker room and found a story about how last week he got exposed by dudes on twitter when he was defending himself on twitter with a burner account.
They waived him this morning, based on that, I could believe someone punched him last night after he said something disgusting.
Noticed Fox wouldn’t pass him the puck on a PP last night
TYM
Maybe Quinn has a black eye given to him by DeAngelo after the game? Looking forward to the Zoom questions after practice. If Tony D punched out Quinn, many people here would congratulate him!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Quinn goes with seven defensemen next game. Maybe he’ll insert both bitetto and Hajek but most likely one of those will be jackass Johnson.
CCCP
Im hearing Tony got into a fight with a teammate after the game yesterday. Apparently theres footage of him arguing with Georgiev on the way to the locker room.
Beezle
I think it is safe to say there is a lot going on behind the scenes that none of us know about and if the beat writers know, its very off the record type stuff. It will all come out in the end.
CCCP
If this is political than it is even dumber than I thought… and it could very well be political (sorry Coos) between Tony and George and even Troobuh who are all about victimhood.
Beezle
Also, I doubt very much it is any one thing but a culmination of things.
CCCP
Doubt it will all come out later. The mutiny thing still largely a mystery who was really behind it.
jpp
3 teams have the cap space for deangelo that I could see claiming him
Detroit bc of staal’s presence and their success together
devils bc of Lindy ruff’s presence who I have a feeling agrees with deangelo on a lot of things
Kings bc it’s a free asset and you’d think he’d be open to LA
James G
LOL calmmmm down. It’s going to be okay Boneheads!
Maybe-just maybe- you guys are giving Tony D too much credit and overvaluing him.
He was basically a spare part before having a big year thanks in part to Panarin last season.
I am not buying that he was ready to come out and be Shea Weber this season until Quinn benched him and ruined it all.
What I’m saying is…there’s more to the story. He’s not on waivers because he’s a Trump supporter. Cmon.
I can’t imagine how politics played into this decision and if it did, it would only have been at base level. It was probably just one idiotic thing too many.
It also seems like this organization cannot handle anyone with an outspoken personality. Avery… now Tony. It’s a vanilla sorbet club.
Bdl
Vince,
Who never shuts upon Twitter, has been quiet for an hr. Something tells me the organization has put the cone of silence on the beats.
TYM
If Kreider actually punched Tony D, it is nice to know he is willing to punch someone. You would never know that from his behavior on the ice.
jpp
This isn’t a political thing
It’s a modern age viotile kid athlete thing
CCCP
I dont have the footage Supposedly you could see the start when they started skating off. No footage of them in the tunnel tho
jpp
Hahaha what the heck are you talking about CCCP
You think trouba Georgie and TonyD all went at it based on politics? Lol
Come on man
St Pete Eli
C3
Vanilla Sorbet lol! Cotton Candy, soft as Doctors cotton, they are just too easy to play against!
jpp
TonyD is a violtile kid. (Takes having been one to know one)
He turned a spotlight on himself on social media and people who don’t agree with him or like his attitude hate on him.
That’s been wearing on him, no doubt.
He obviously reads everything and is probably pretty dialed in to the fact he is probably not part of the long term plans
That can let a viotile kid to acting in such a way that could be such a cancer to a locker room. Or to him having his back up so much, that when criticized by a teammate reacts with emotion and physically confrontational or verbally assaulting him with any type of cutting comment tony could think of.
I totally believe something Violtile happened and it was clearly such that it’s a ‘we can’t have this kid around our team anymore’
Beezle
CCCP outspoken, crazy, clown, whatevers is all ok until the point it becomes a negative distraction inside the room. None of us know if that plays into this or to what extent. But its rarely just one thing when things like this happen in sports.
jpp
Wonder if he tussled with Georgie or if TonyD got physical or in Georgie’s face and someone went at TonyD to stand up for Georgie
Pete
Yzerman got rid of Tony very quickly when he was Tampa GM, can’t see him claiming him now.
all i was saying coos is that it wasn’t that hard to predict that Tony would again become a problem for yet another organization (and he was already suspended internally by the rangers for off-issues Q’s first year). Even on best behavior there were likely many teams who would never consider acquiring him given his past, which made the two year deal a risk from the start.
And his political opinions themselves were/are not the issue here (and again i’d bet many US players share those beliefs to one degree or another). But someone with his past issues in multiple organizations, would have not been so intentionally confrontational on twitter/blogs if they had truly matured and understood today’s media environment. Image is everything as Agassi said!
jpp
Simply put.
There’s a downward string spiral of stuff that tonyD experiencing/manifesting right now.
There is a behavioral string forming and it’s not NHL defensemen hockey related.
Bdl
So far rumors are that somebody popped Deangelo. The three suspects are, Kreider, Trouba, and Georgiev. Who ya got!?!?
ilb2001
Trouba
Pete
kreider
TYM
Trouba
Bdl
My pick is Trouba, but Kreider sure was angry during his presser.
Bdl
They were both angry all game long.
ilb2001
By the way, Trouba is a common Ukrainian last name. In both Ukrainian and Russian it means Trumpet. Not sure if this helps the situation 😃
ilb2001
They need another angry defenseman besides Trouba and Lindgren. And a couple of forwards.
CraigWeather
Given Kreider’s fiery post game interview… I wouldn’t be shocked in the slightest if it were him, but if I’m a betting man, I’m going with Trouba. Georgiev is too soft spoken to throw down….
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
Couldn’t they just give 77 a little thorazine with his afternoon applesauce?
jpp
Fox
James G
Sounds like a mafia hit.
Tony won’t see him no more
ilb2001
Swimming with fishes
ilb2001
He was an interior decorator
His house looked like….
TYM
Da guy was a Czechoslovakian
bobbyo2019
Why didn’t anyone punch Smitty after last nights gsme?
bobbyo2019
Simply put this is piss poor asset management by Rangers
bobbyo2019
Imagine Tony D on Penguin powerplay for the next 2 years torturing us…..all for free
Beezle
Ilb agreed they need some angry forwards. Do they have any beyond kid K now and then?
I watched North Dakota vs Ohmaha a couple nights back. There were more scrums and chippy play than in an entire NYR season. Just looking at a goalie the wrong way got a crowd going at it.
CraigWeather
Lol one of my favorite scenes from “The Sopranos.”
Just the way Chris says it…. “…..His house looked like sh** ….?”
CraigWeather
If only we traded Tony for Sam Bennett… it would’ve gone down as the Tony Bennett trade….
If Pittsburgh claimed him, could he play tomorrow night?
TYM
Pine Barrens. Top 3 all-time Soprano’s episodes. I have it at #2 after Funhouse.
St Pete Eli
Mrs. D’Angelo Tony won’t be home dinner tonight in fact…….
cooscoos
Marc Staal, according to rumor, was let go after wrestling Torts (visiting from Columbus) to the concrete floor between dressing rooms, and trying to scratch his eyes out with a shuffleboard stick.
cooscoos
It was on Twitter. Proof!
bobbyo2019
SMitty and Johnson tomorrow …what could go wrong
cooscoos
Tony in 2035 to fellow Postal Service employee: “I yoosed to be somebody. You could look it up.”
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
CraigWeather…..Tony Bennett? Rags to riches?
cooscoos
I wonder if JD realizes that everyone is snickering about his franchise.
cooscoos
Rags to Riches: when Dave Righetti was traded for Richie Hebner.
cooscoos
‘I wanna be around to pick up the pieces…’
CraigWeather
Carp confirmed it! Apparently Georgie threw down with DeParler in the Tunnel, but it was quickly broken up.
James G
Development coach. Develop them into enemies who throw down after a loss..
CraigWeather
Well this is awkward now……..
St Pete Eli
Crosby “Smith and Johnson are in lets play 2.”
TYM
If it was DeAngelo and Georgiev, it was simply the last straw for the Rangers. Fact is…….Georgiev could have frozen the puck and then he gagged on a nondescript shot by Crosby for the game winner. God forbid anyone call him out on those, I guess. Meanwhile, the big ticket guys got themselves stuck out there for 3 shifts prior to the goal. The bottom line is that nobody will,have Tony D to kick around anymore. Of nobody claims him……..I wonder how he will enjoy playing in Vladivostok.
jpp
Watching the Sabres/devils
Ristolanein playing net front on the PP. has a goal and Did a great job screening for another goal
Fun fact: miles wood is former Sabre Randy Wood’s son.
jpp
Carpy with the big fish scoop
jpp
Rosasco gave carpy this story bc teams were asking the same questions we were and wondering what exactly he did.
Deangelo wouldn’t be the first guy a team brought in after a locker room alteration forced him out his previous team.
The real fear from a waiver claim pickup is did he say something disgustingly wrong and jumped by another teammate
This sounds hockey and furstration related. That helps knowing if your considering claiming him.
They want him claimed.
You want to know what would assuredly be politcially motivated. If the devils don’t claim him. Wrap your head around that
jpp
What do you think lindy ruff began doing this afternoon
James G
Can’t turn this into “we like Tony but we don’t like Georgie”
Maybe the reality of it is DeAngelo is a bad teammate. And not a good player to have in your locker room.
And maybe other teams’ players and GMs know it…
James G
Jpp is he getting his finger sized for a Cuo ring because he plans on signing Tony D’Coffey?
James G
Look I mean I understand that Tony D contributes to the offense and he has a personality that is unique to a team of mostly passive guys but do you really think this was done without any consideration and without a correlation to what has most likely been a reoccurring issue w Tony and his mouth/attitude?
CCCP
James hates Tony D
Pete
well if not claimed at least we can keep the buyout streak going this offseason!
cregg7
I had a feeling Georgie and him would argue about that last giveaway with the cross up.
Maybe we hear the whole thing from Tony himself since he lets it all air out there all the time.
That is a shame how this went down.
Shoulda could woulda sold high.
Admiral Akbar
Awful.
For everyone involved.
Jpg’s sister
Heard rumor trying to trade Tony firv3 tears no takers us that true?
TYM
Anthony DeAngelo has been cancelled………replaced by Jack Johnson and Anthony Bitetto. Brendan Smith was unavailable for comment, and Libor Hajek was in a taxi and unreachable.
CCCP
So just throw away the guy. Who cares, right? He’s a lockeroom cancer blah blah blah!
James G
TYM why make it about that? Seriously asking. You didn’t need to know who guys like Avery and Matt Cooke voted for to know the types of guys they were.
bobbyo2019
And we know James loves Georgie!
Beezle
If as Carp suggested it went down, that the team is willing to part ways for nothing means this was the last straw. Otherwise it would have been handled inside the room/organization.
James G
What’s funny too is if this was a player like Johnson Smith or the like, many here would be all about it.
The reality is he’s done nothing this year on the ice and obviously has been a problem for the organization off of it too. And I’m not talking about Twitter.
This kid could very easily have used his last chance to make it in the NHL.
James G
Lol Bobby and the “shoulda traded Georgie for a 12th rounder” club are warming up now.
You think Georgiev is the off ice issue? Or was the instigator last night?
Are you going to include Ryan Getzlaf’s name in your defense of Tony D?
James G
Invisible against Carolina in the qualifiers other than his meltdown.
Minus-6 in 6 games this season with 1 assist. On for four goals last night. Then comes off the ice and getting into an altercation with his own goalie.
Should we be clamoring for a dozen more players just like him?
jpp
James
He’s calling Tom Fitzgerald and the owners and trying to get them to sign off on a claim
Admiral Akbar
Either way the situation just sucks. Feel bad for Georgie. And feel bad for TonyD that he couldn’t turn around what he needed to turn around.
And worst, feel bad for the Rangers. Maybe this crap gets the players on the same page, because man, they have been quite disjointed this season.
Jpg’s sister
If carp ssid it believe it
Maybe he will go to Dallas sean did
James G
Sounds like a Devils’ problem to me JPP.
Again, I think we sometimes overvalue players based on opinion.
That’s when the knee jerk reactions start about how he’s going to a rival and will make the Rangers pay for the next ten years.
Admiral Akbar
But — and I like Tony D as a player and have always rooted for him — this is too much, and the Rangers did what they had to do, and it is the right thing.
cregg7
Athletic message board is a cesspool right now. It’s hard to get into moderation over there and a lot of messages are. People using it to put forth their political crap.
Some harping on carp for writing nice things about Tony’s play last year. I guess if you score over 50 pts it’s still no reason to report anything positive.
James G
Well that’s just it AA. Shouldn’t we be more focused on the team and what they’re going to need to do to turn this around?
The whole situation sucks. I said it earlier before this news broke. They invested in Georgiev and in Tony D in the offseason. Neither investment has worked out thus far. And clearly the Tony D situation has gone off the rails once and for all.
They’ll need a RHD.
cregg7
Welp. There is room on the depth chart now for all those prospects
Where is rykov?
Hajek?
Later lindqvist
Robertson
I’ll settle for seeing bidetto for a few so we can finally cast judgement.
Admiral Akbar
Is TonyD a Derbil yet?
That should work out nicely with PK Subban.
Bdl
The RD is going to be Bitetto. Short term anyway.
Beezle
If it was any other position player they might have tried to wait. But you don’t go after the goalie when the president of the organization was once its star goalie.
James G
Unfortunate Craig. Politics have nothing to do with the situation.
TYM
I took a look at Carp’s message board and quickly departed. It is a crap show. Reminds me of why I deactivated Twitter. As much as I liked it for following sports, it is otherwise a cesspool of nut cases from all sides.
bobbyo2019
James Georgie boy has sucked this year but let’s hope they don’t place him on waivers and ruin his value also. This team is worse than they were yesterday
CCCP
“I saw that not the best things happen to minorities in America, so I decided to use my voice for good. It seemed very appropriate to me, given what minorities are facing now. Racism is still in society.” – Georgiev said to sports.ru recently. Where has he seen racism? From the window of his $100 thousand dollars car? Whatever… the side he’s on is always right, it seems.
cregg7
This team a d Quinn could use Dylan mcilwrath on the right side of the third pair.
Go get em’
Reclamation project !
Bdl
Fans really going strong with the rumor that Kreider stepped in and may have hit DeAngelo. Got to say, I hope it’s not true.
Controversial player! Oh, my! His life views don’t align with the brainwashed masses! He must be destroyed!
St Pete Eli
James
It doesn’t matter if it is D’Angelo the Rangers will be tormented by someone or something for the next 10 years. It will probably be their own players and management team. But hey at least we will have plenty of fodder!
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I’m getting too old to wait for good things to happen, top down incompetence. When will this Cotton Candy Crew be able to crush the enemy and take no prisoners?
I just happy the minx is back
Where’s Wicky?
Kreiders post game comments were interesting. i think we can deduce who he was not talking about. That would Phil D, Rooney, Blackwell, and Lemieux. Question is, was he going big game hunting, Zibanejad and Panarin. Those two are clearly the biggest culprits.
You would have to think at noon today, Smith gets put on waivers.
DQ post also brought up how they were chasing themselves defensively because of turnovers trying to force offense. Another last year problem come back again.
Think ORF said they’re lucky no fans but I think the opposite. Hearing the boos could be a wake up call too.
James bluebird -10 morning here! At least there’s something crisp and refreshing to look forward to
Won’t happen w/ Smith BDL. That would be sensible.
The rangers are a flawed team. Mixture of veterans and rookies. Rangers are the youngest team in hockey. They are very weak at center, probably the 2nd most important position in hockey behind goaltending, have some players playing out of position. JD and Gorton have there work cut out for them to figure out how to correct these issues.
St Pete welcome back.
For cap reasons alone Smith should be in taxi squad on off days. No one is claiming him at that salary.
They have to bring on another center who can actually play the position ASAP. Joked before about sending Tony to Calgary for Bennet, tho doubt they’d take him, but maybe Howden, Hajek or Gauthier would get it done.
tommyG
Spot on the 2 most important positions in hockey and we suck at both so far! I suppose we could add DQ to the mix
And because of the deficiency at center the young wings suffer and get disciplined by our Preppy coach.
Just finished watching the game again, Kreider definitely referring to Panarin and Zibanejad. Shift after shift the two of them went sideways. Buchnevich hasn’t scored in a bit, but man is he playing good hockey. Kakko was good away from the puck, and along the boards. Miller was a roller coaster. Some great, some not so much. Lindgren strong. An angry Trouba is a good Trouba. He was angry last night.
Back in the dark days, Sam and JD used to drive me crazy. They never acknowledge how bad the Rangers were. You’d think they perennial cup contenders in those days, not a mess who had not made the playoffs in ages. Well the beats are doing the same thing. See no evil. Speak no evil. Disappointing to say the least.
Eli,
First off, welcome back. I think part of the reason the young wingers struggle is because Zibanejad, and Panarin do there own thing. Trying to figure out what to do when playing with those guys can’t. I’m ok with Panarin playing that way, they knew this when they signed him. But your top center cannot be constantly free lancing. He needs to stay within the structure of the team.
Bdl
Thanks good to be back. Agreed, but the lack of center depth and quality is still a huge issue.
Thanks James I’m cooled down, but it did take a while. My second marriage taught me a lot, # 1 was when to keep my mouth shut lol!
I hope they trade down this year with their lottery pick and get a young veteran center. They don’t need another 18 year old learning at the NHL level next year. I’m also hoping for a different coach next year who does more than talk a good game.
What structure, BDL?
I think it’s time to put Shesterkin in net and give him a few games to ride it out. They’re both rusty and aren’t seeing as many shots in stretches. Time to establish number one goaltender. This isn’t working, they needed one extra save or two and didn’t get it
Exactly Ilb.
Another big difference between placing Kakko and Co on waivers as opposed to Smith/JJ and other vets on waivers for cap saving purposes is that Kakko and other youngsters are being punished by losing money every day because they’re on two-way contracts. Smith/JJ and other vets are on one way contracts, they aren’t losing a penny.
I haven’t had time to to read Carp’s article yet, but its title says it all. If they had structure they’d be able to close one game goals. Has nothing to do with team being young. Youngsters, in fact, are easier to teach structure, if they had any.
I haven’t been following much after the game/next day news. Have we heard from Gorton/JD lately?
Have not. Not unusual. Don’t normally say much till right before and right after trade deadline.
With Blackwell getting hurt, does that make Smith a forward again? Can’t wait for that.
Did you see Capitals bench reaction to Chara’s first goal? He’s playing there for $795K. Jonson makes $1.1M. I wonder if Chara would’ve played for NY for $2M
Bitetto or Hájek?
If Bennett has requested a trade, Gorton needs to go get him.
Entire post game did not mention play of Brendan Smith or face off horrors ….Zibanejad is obviously hurt …he’s a mess
He’s playing 20+ minutes a night. How hurt could he be.
What I take from the goalie rotation and the comments valley cat made last night.
They want to do this for a couple weeks so that both goalies get real practices in with Allaire so he can dial them in from a mechanics standpoint
I’ve heard on podcasts that teams aren’t practicing and aren’t gonna have many practices this season. So they are setting a set schedule to allow both goalies to get heavy workouts and on ice time with allaire, bc they know they are rusty technically.
I don’t think they would be doing this if they didn’t think it were the lesser of two evils.
3rd straight game Zibanejad has lost a face off clean that lead directly to a goal.
The usual suspects get the blame when things go wrong. Teflon Mika skates. If there is one player that deserves most of the blame for the teams failures, it’s the “number one center”.
Crosby and the corpse of Malkin destroyed him at even strength last night. Men against child. Wile E. Coyote (Quinn) could not figure out how to get Zibanejad away from them. As the home team no less. Pathetic!
BDL, you’re right. And I’m sorry to say but Carp seems to be Quinn’s biggest defender.
Brooks questioning the goalie rotation. At least that’s a start.
Just saw that. Carp never will.
The look on Smitty’s face near the end was the unmistakable look of dead man walking. He knows it.
BDL, I’d say Bitetto. They need to get him to play 3 games anyway, and he has some bite to his game.
Though they’re paid a ton, I do admire how guys like Donuts and now Kreider bite their tongues and answer the same dumb, obvious questions night after night. See below:
Sully has coached rings around Quinn in these games….without a defense
Barring a trade or Hajek solidifying a spot and Tony D learning how to be a defenseman, i think Smith is gonna be kept in this same rome(game or two here and then sit, rinse and repeat).
Definitely think Bidetto needs to get a shot as he can’t be worse than either of Tony, Johnson or Smith, and i’d say Hajek should get a stretch for the same reason.
Yea none of the writers are calling out Q or Gorton and JD for getting us to this spot and nor are they really taking the vets to task. Instead we keep hearing how this is such a young team, which is true, but it’s the veterans who have been the biggest culprits
They can’t win a face-off when they need to in bad way. Been that way for years. Remember what Bufallo did with Eakin? Time to get some help in that area.
The fact that during this stretch it’s being emphasized and ingrained in our boys to not take penalties, methinks it’s affecting our aggressiveness in front of our netminders. Old Pro Trouba, who knows the balance, did a number on Liver Lips last night to beat thg band. Almost seems he doesn’t like him.
YEARS, ilb. Mind-boggling.
Never this bad though.
Laughed out loud last night when Kreider gave us all a lecture on North/South hockey. He’s the biggest culprit of disregarding his own advice.
Rangers could have had Eakin. Or a half dozen other guys. Obviously isnt something the Rangers organization seems concerned about.
Few things worse than outright losing faceoffs late in your own end. We’ve been doing it for multiple seasons.
The Ranger roster is a puzzle with missing pieces it seems. So therefore I suppose it can be difficult for Quinny to piece together a lineup. However, he never seems to stick with his lines once a game starts. That drives me on my last nerve. You have to give a combination more than 2 minutes to see uf it works. Quinn seems to have some kind of ADD when it comes to keeping a line combo together.
And I don’t want to forget this last point which I suspect all of will agree is very cogent…..ladt night absolutely SUCKED. Quinn needs to go……and take Sam and Joe with you.
Ilb on you 9:57 post maybe they are fishing and smoking cigars with slats?
If the Rangers offered Calgary DeAngelo for Bennett, Calgary would run to take it. Tony D is far too much to offer for Bennett. Everyone here seems so enamored with Bennett……..which is fine except for the fact that if Bennett cannot get on the ice with Calgary, who’s only trimly effective center is Monaghan, what does that tell you about Bennett? He is a higher priced Howden, the differences being better on face offs and a bit meaner of a game. I have thought that the Rangers needed a guy like Eakin or Nosek for awhile, however this year the cap issues limit them from making a move like that. I do think they will make a move to get a center in here…….I just do not think that happens until after this season when they are freed from cap hell.
Pick your balls boys the lottery is on the menu!
So the question really is… why? Why are the best players either obstinate, stupid, or both? Valley Kat echoed my thoughts from last night – why on earth did they allow themselves to get into a track meet with a team that has no defense? I’ll give DQ blame for not callling a TO and screaming at them but honestly your best players have to be better than that.
St.Pete…..picking balls is not very polite…especially in public.
On the D’Anger/Pepe Jr penalty fear ‘issue’ – I think you guys are seeing an issue where one does not exist. DQ did not bench D’Anger because of the penalty he took on the play, it was because of an incredibly stupid and immature second penalty of yelling at the refs and slamming the door. My memory is less certain on Pepe – was it not another too many men on the ice penalty?
From what I have seen, DQ has only taken agressive action for very lazy (ie Strome w/ slashing) or very stupid penalites. True, some players may get more rope than others but that is always the case.
rich
The way you’ve put it I now see the error of my ways!
Ilb – I doubt Chara cares about the money at this stage of his career. He got pushed out of Bean town and wanted to still be somewhere there was a chance to win this year. NYR not high up on that list of likely cup finalists.
As I said last night: Paging Jeff Gorton. Paging Jeff Gorton.
This is a short season. Yes, the team has injuries, but he watched the hype grow in the off season while Carp and Dave Maloney and others cautioned that we weren’t as far along as people believed. Gorton has not provided enough leadership or center depth. Add to that, there is little structure from the coach and this group has been set up to fail in the eyes of the fans and the beat writers. Gorton needs to do something.
I wonder….would it be a bad thing to bring in Messier to teach how a face off is won. At the very least he could demonstrate how to put a hockey stick into somebodys teeth.
Mess is busy with Kingsbridge, the world’s largest ice-skating non Center, all surrounded still by chain-link fences and barbed wire for over a decade. LOL. Go, NYC.
DeAngelo on waivers.
The more I consider it Gorton really got fleeced by Yzerman in the McDonough trade.
BDL,
You’re not wrong about Zibanejad but let’s take the microscope away for a minute. Gorton has designed this team so that Zibanejad HAS to be the guy. Injuries, slumps. Not allowed otherwise Strome ans Howden are 1/1A.
He’s hurt, Strome is hurt and Chytil is out injured. Gorton’s chickens have come home to roost.
As for your question-How hurt can he be? Well, Callahan once played 20+ mins a night all year with a shoulder injury. Girardi played 20 mins a night all season with a cracked patella. Both took crap for not being as effective as they would normally be. But their coaches knew that there was no filling their slot. So yeah he can actually be plenty hurt IMO.
Mess wanted to be coach and then GM of the rangers, they chose neither so don’t think he is gonna come help on faceoffs!
I don’t think Bennet would come here and work wonders, but he can win faceoffs. Issue i hear with him is that he thinks he can play top 6 and really hasn’t worked out like that thus far in his career. So he might not be happy to come here and be a bottom 6 guy either, but if he squinted hard enough he could at least envision the possibility for a top 6 role here.
On talent alone Tony is worth more for sure, which is why i suggest Calg sending us a pick back too. However, I don’t think you can discount the baggage he has associated with him (especially for a Canadian team, where he has had history from junior days) and with the expansion draft coming not sure if they would have a spot to protect him with.
The latter issue isn’t unique to Tony, which could make trading non-star guys with more than one year left (like Strome) harder this season as the GM has to have the space to keep him or expect to pay a lesser price if said player is just going to be exposed at the end of the year. At the moment there isn’t really anyone i’d be worried about losing on our end and I’d probably leave both Strome and Tony exposed as don’t think either guy would be high on Seattle’s list for different reasons
Neither Georgiev nor ADA seem very inspired by their new deals.
The organization paid these guy and paid them well. No return on the investment so far. Don’t think either is going to be here long term.
How do you go from All-star to waivers?
Unless they’re clearing salary?
Fishsticks should grab DeAngelo
The D’Anger stuff is pretty surprising – waivers instead of a trade?
Exactly, Beezle. That’s crazy
Pretty much everyone who’s been on the team who signed a new contract prior to this season is playing horrible.
2 exceptions: Kreider is playing kinda how he usually does in the first half of the season and jackass Johnson wasn’t on the team before but he looks like donkey poop.
He can easily clear, btw.
Devils have cap room…
Beverly couldn’t be traded??
Or they do not particularly care. Either way, they should’ve managed this asset better. Unless nobody around the league was willing to even talk about him in a trade. Either way, we will find out soon enough.
Deangelo on waivers. Make room for JJ! Here he comes!
Det, Fla, LAK, Ott all have room. I’m going to go make some popcorn, brb 😉
Imagine asking your owner to commit just under $9m to him over the next season and a half?! hard pass for just about every team i’d imagine. Hopefully someone does take him at this point, but if not means we may be stuck with him for next two years
What a DelZaster.
Eh. I’m sure he’ll clear.
I miss Joey Keane 😞
Do any of the docs here specialize in psych issues? I worry that D’Anger may have a meltdown if not claimed
Pete,
Not to mention we’ll inevitably see a
JJ-Smith pairing
WAIVE EVERYONE!
Waivers for 77? That is monumental stupidity. Terrible asset management.
Maybe they’re clearing cap space for Barkov😁
Trade Howden for Bennet
Beezle, Florida has enough problems in their own with the way they’ve handled Yandle this off-season.
However, the owner of the team was a big tRump donor who was almost nominated for secretary of the army, so…….
WOW! What happens if he goes un-claimed? His time here is over.
On DeParler…. Rumors floating around that one of his teammates clocked him walking back to the dressing room after the game….
If they lose for nothing instead of building trade value like he had last year , that would be extremely disappointing.
ther Defenseman who has no clue about defense. Laughable NHL.
Unbelievable news about DeAngelo. What a mess. Serious points off for JD and Gorton for their mishandling of this. If they had any clue Quinn was going to use him the way he did (take him off the PP and saddle him with the corpse of Jack Johnson), they should have dealt him around the draft. That trade with Arizona is now a complete disaster other than it rid them of Stepan’s high salary.
STOP please with the political nonsense!
Management can’t work out a trade involving 77? Waivers? This one may really come back to bite them in the ass…..and makes that Arizona trade a complete cluster $%=÷.
De Parler. LOL Craig!
James, ya never know. He’s starting to look lackadaisical of late. They could have a Ryan O’Reilly situation on their hands soon enough.
Didn’t Dallas claim Avery off waivers. Then we got him back at half salary? I forget the scenerio
Craig, was it you who started that rumor? Lmao
Avery signed as a free agent with Dallas…..wore out his welcome at light speed….put on waivers and we took him back…..and then Torts gelded him.
On defense for the Rangers, number 77, Charlie Foxtrot.
Ev,
I wish it were lol.
It’s floating around on Twitter.
they only lose a small amount of his cap hit here tho right? this isn’t a cap move
i’d give Hajek and Bitteto a shot regardless if he clears or not
rich, they may have a greater window in the offseason, but don’t think he has ever had great trade value for many reasons
This is a complete sheet-show from management on down to Tony.
There needs to be an explanation of this.
Locker room issue? Yes, we have the right to know. That is the only reason that makes sense to me.
Yeah – they guy was on for 9 of past 16 goals against, but he did get 2 assists last game and did seem to be more assertive last 2 games. Also got 1st unit power play time last night with Fox which looked good.
Smith Johnson 3rd pair. Working our way up in the world. Now we have a real defense.
Smith Johnson actually sounds like a pharmacuetical company.
This should almost guarantee another lottery pick.
I deactivated Twitter some time ago. I imagine it is blowing up now over this. JD is going to have to speak out tomorrow.
Pete, they are on the hook for $3.725M of his cap hit if he clears and buried in Hartford. For 2 years.
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I think there’s an excellent chance DeAngelo will clear waivers tomorrow. Then the Rangers’ next move will be really interesting. Obviously they have a plan for him not clearing. And obviously they don’t mind if he’s claimed
They just decimated his trade value if he goes unclaimed. Not much cap savings. Just have him sit in Quinn bin until able to entice a trade with a team desperate for D due to injury.
Penguins need help and should have some relief with LTIR I imagine.
This is disgusting.
And then the Dirty Birds will hire Drury.
Is Gerard Gallant still available??
Does anybody in this organization know what they’re doing other than not knowing what they’re doing because they know nothing?
Please Please stop with the political nonsense I can’t take it!!!
De non si parlo!!!
I wouldn’t want the Pitt job if i were Drury. Mario clearly insisting on going for broke with Sid and Malkin, so Drury would be a glorified yes man with no assets even really left to trade to in order to compete. They need a tear down there for sure.
If you want to be mad at Gort/JD it should be for resigning Tony in the first place, especially to a two year deal. This type of fact pattern wasn’t that hard to predict
There was clearly more to hear than is public. Benching I guy for 2 games for cursing a ref and slamming the penalty box door was an overboard reaction……..it has happened to many players before him. So this has been brewing for awhile. I wonder if we will ever get the entire story.
The entire thing sounds too drastic and against any logic. He must’ve done/said something dumb/disgusting.
‘..not that hard to predict?’
Pure conjecture. Interesting, but worthless.
The beats have gone quiet on Twitter.
Cregg 7….you are making too much sense in regards to 77. You clearly are not cut out for being GM of the Rangers. I mean it really seems if you are actually thinking about these things logically….how novel.
I was just trying to search for the rumors about one of the guys punching him on the way back to the locker room and found a story about how last week he got exposed by dudes on twitter when he was defending himself on twitter with a burner account.
They waived him this morning, based on that, I could believe someone punched him last night after he said something disgusting.
Noticed Fox wouldn’t pass him the puck on a PP last night
Maybe Quinn has a black eye given to him by DeAngelo after the game? Looking forward to the Zoom questions after practice. If Tony D punched out Quinn, many people here would congratulate him!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Quinn goes with seven defensemen next game. Maybe he’ll insert both bitetto and Hajek but most likely one of those will be jackass Johnson.
Im hearing Tony got into a fight with a teammate after the game yesterday. Apparently theres footage of him arguing with Georgiev on the way to the locker room.
I think it is safe to say there is a lot going on behind the scenes that none of us know about and if the beat writers know, its very off the record type stuff. It will all come out in the end.
If this is political than it is even dumber than I thought… and it could very well be political (sorry Coos) between Tony and George and even Troobuh who are all about victimhood.
Also, I doubt very much it is any one thing but a culmination of things.
Doubt it will all come out later. The mutiny thing still largely a mystery who was really behind it.
3 teams have the cap space for deangelo that I could see claiming him
Detroit bc of staal’s presence and their success together
devils bc of Lindy ruff’s presence who I have a feeling agrees with deangelo on a lot of things
Kings bc it’s a free asset and you’d think he’d be open to LA
LOL calmmmm down. It’s going to be okay Boneheads!
Maybe-just maybe- you guys are giving Tony D too much credit and overvaluing him.
He was basically a spare part before having a big year thanks in part to Panarin last season.
I am not buying that he was ready to come out and be Shea Weber this season until Quinn benched him and ruined it all.
What I’m saying is…there’s more to the story. He’s not on waivers because he’s a Trump supporter. Cmon.
I can’t imagine how politics played into this decision and if it did, it would only have been at base level. It was probably just one idiotic thing too many.
*his politics
I want to see the footage CCCP
That’s right up your alley. Send me a link 😉
It also seems like this organization cannot handle anyone with an outspoken personality. Avery… now Tony. It’s a vanilla sorbet club.
Vince,
Who never shuts upon Twitter, has been quiet for an hr. Something tells me the organization has put the cone of silence on the beats.
If Kreider actually punched Tony D, it is nice to know he is willing to punch someone. You would never know that from his behavior on the ice.
This isn’t a political thing
It’s a modern age viotile kid athlete thing
I dont have the footage Supposedly you could see the start when they started skating off. No footage of them in the tunnel tho
Hahaha what the heck are you talking about CCCP
You think trouba Georgie and TonyD all went at it based on politics? Lol
Come on man
C3
Vanilla Sorbet lol! Cotton Candy, soft as Doctors cotton, they are just too easy to play against!
TonyD is a violtile kid. (Takes having been one to know one)
He turned a spotlight on himself on social media and people who don’t agree with him or like his attitude hate on him.
That’s been wearing on him, no doubt.
He obviously reads everything and is probably pretty dialed in to the fact he is probably not part of the long term plans
That can let a viotile kid to acting in such a way that could be such a cancer to a locker room. Or to him having his back up so much, that when criticized by a teammate reacts with emotion and physically confrontational or verbally assaulting him with any type of cutting comment tony could think of.
I totally believe something Violtile happened and it was clearly such that it’s a ‘we can’t have this kid around our team anymore’
CCCP outspoken, crazy, clown, whatevers is all ok until the point it becomes a negative distraction inside the room. None of us know if that plays into this or to what extent. But its rarely just one thing when things like this happen in sports.
Wonder if he tussled with Georgie or if TonyD got physical or in Georgie’s face and someone went at TonyD to stand up for Georgie
Yzerman got rid of Tony very quickly when he was Tampa GM, can’t see him claiming him now.
all i was saying coos is that it wasn’t that hard to predict that Tony would again become a problem for yet another organization (and he was already suspended internally by the rangers for off-issues Q’s first year). Even on best behavior there were likely many teams who would never consider acquiring him given his past, which made the two year deal a risk from the start.
And his political opinions themselves were/are not the issue here (and again i’d bet many US players share those beliefs to one degree or another). But someone with his past issues in multiple organizations, would have not been so intentionally confrontational on twitter/blogs if they had truly matured and understood today’s media environment. Image is everything as Agassi said!
Simply put.
There’s a downward string spiral of stuff that tonyD experiencing/manifesting right now.
There is a behavioral string forming and it’s not NHL defensemen hockey related.
So far rumors are that somebody popped Deangelo. The three suspects are, Kreider, Trouba, and Georgiev. Who ya got!?!?
Trouba
kreider
Trouba
My pick is Trouba, but Kreider sure was angry during his presser.
They were both angry all game long.
By the way, Trouba is a common Ukrainian last name. In both Ukrainian and Russian it means Trumpet. Not sure if this helps the situation 😃
They need another angry defenseman besides Trouba and Lindgren. And a couple of forwards.
Given Kreider’s fiery post game interview… I wouldn’t be shocked in the slightest if it were him, but if I’m a betting man, I’m going with Trouba. Georgiev is too soft spoken to throw down….
Couldn’t they just give 77 a little thorazine with his afternoon applesauce?
Fox
Sounds like a mafia hit.
Tony won’t see him no more
Swimming with fishes
He was an interior decorator
His house looked like….
Da guy was a Czechoslovakian
Why didn’t anyone punch Smitty after last nights gsme?
Simply put this is piss poor asset management by Rangers
Imagine Tony D on Penguin powerplay for the next 2 years torturing us…..all for free
Ilb agreed they need some angry forwards. Do they have any beyond kid K now and then?
I watched North Dakota vs Ohmaha a couple nights back. There were more scrums and chippy play than in an entire NYR season. Just looking at a goalie the wrong way got a crowd going at it.
Lol one of my favorite scenes from “The Sopranos.”
Just the way Chris says it…. “…..His house looked like sh** ….?”
If only we traded Tony for Sam Bennett… it would’ve gone down as the Tony Bennett trade….
https://nypost.com/2021/01/31/rangers-place-tony-deangelo-on-waivers-in-stunning-move/
If Pittsburgh claimed him, could he play tomorrow night?
Pine Barrens. Top 3 all-time Soprano’s episodes. I have it at #2 after Funhouse.
Mrs. D’Angelo Tony won’t be home dinner tonight in fact…….
Marc Staal, according to rumor, was let go after wrestling Torts (visiting from Columbus) to the concrete floor between dressing rooms, and trying to scratch his eyes out with a shuffleboard stick.
It was on Twitter. Proof!
SMitty and Johnson tomorrow …what could go wrong
Tony in 2035 to fellow Postal Service employee: “I yoosed to be somebody. You could look it up.”
CraigWeather…..Tony Bennett? Rags to riches?
I wonder if JD realizes that everyone is snickering about his franchise.
Rags to Riches: when Dave Righetti was traded for Richie Hebner.
‘I wanna be around to pick up the pieces…’
Carp confirmed it! Apparently Georgie threw down with DeParler in the Tunnel, but it was quickly broken up.
Development coach. Develop them into enemies who throw down after a loss..
Well this is awkward now……..
Crosby “Smith and Johnson are in lets play 2.”
If it was DeAngelo and Georgiev, it was simply the last straw for the Rangers. Fact is…….Georgiev could have frozen the puck and then he gagged on a nondescript shot by Crosby for the game winner. God forbid anyone call him out on those, I guess. Meanwhile, the big ticket guys got themselves stuck out there for 3 shifts prior to the goal. The bottom line is that nobody will,have Tony D to kick around anymore. Of nobody claims him……..I wonder how he will enjoy playing in Vladivostok.
Watching the Sabres/devils
Ristolanein playing net front on the PP. has a goal and Did a great job screening for another goal
Fun fact: miles wood is former Sabre Randy Wood’s son.
Carpy with the big fish scoop
Rosasco gave carpy this story bc teams were asking the same questions we were and wondering what exactly he did.
Deangelo wouldn’t be the first guy a team brought in after a locker room alteration forced him out his previous team.
The real fear from a waiver claim pickup is did he say something disgustingly wrong and jumped by another teammate
This sounds hockey and furstration related. That helps knowing if your considering claiming him.
They want him claimed.
You want to know what would assuredly be politcially motivated. If the devils don’t claim him. Wrap your head around that
What do you think lindy ruff began doing this afternoon
Can’t turn this into “we like Tony but we don’t like Georgie”
Maybe the reality of it is DeAngelo is a bad teammate. And not a good player to have in your locker room.
And maybe other teams’ players and GMs know it…
Jpp is he getting his finger sized for a Cuo ring because he plans on signing Tony D’Coffey?
Look I mean I understand that Tony D contributes to the offense and he has a personality that is unique to a team of mostly passive guys but do you really think this was done without any consideration and without a correlation to what has most likely been a reoccurring issue w Tony and his mouth/attitude?
James hates Tony D
well if not claimed at least we can keep the buyout streak going this offseason!
I had a feeling Georgie and him would argue about that last giveaway with the cross up.
Maybe we hear the whole thing from Tony himself since he lets it all air out there all the time.
That is a shame how this went down.
Shoulda could woulda sold high.
Awful.
For everyone involved.
Heard rumor trying to trade Tony firv3 tears no takers us that true?
Anthony DeAngelo has been cancelled………replaced by Jack Johnson and Anthony Bitetto. Brendan Smith was unavailable for comment, and Libor Hajek was in a taxi and unreachable.
So just throw away the guy. Who cares, right? He’s a lockeroom cancer blah blah blah!
TYM why make it about that? Seriously asking. You didn’t need to know who guys like Avery and Matt Cooke voted for to know the types of guys they were.
And we know James loves Georgie!
If as Carp suggested it went down, that the team is willing to part ways for nothing means this was the last straw. Otherwise it would have been handled inside the room/organization.
What’s funny too is if this was a player like Johnson Smith or the like, many here would be all about it.
The reality is he’s done nothing this year on the ice and obviously has been a problem for the organization off of it too. And I’m not talking about Twitter.
This kid could very easily have used his last chance to make it in the NHL.
Lol Bobby and the “shoulda traded Georgie for a 12th rounder” club are warming up now.
You think Georgiev is the off ice issue? Or was the instigator last night?
Are you going to include Ryan Getzlaf’s name in your defense of Tony D?
Invisible against Carolina in the qualifiers other than his meltdown.
Minus-6 in 6 games this season with 1 assist. On for four goals last night. Then comes off the ice and getting into an altercation with his own goalie.
Should we be clamoring for a dozen more players just like him?
James
He’s calling Tom Fitzgerald and the owners and trying to get them to sign off on a claim
Either way the situation just sucks. Feel bad for Georgie. And feel bad for TonyD that he couldn’t turn around what he needed to turn around.
And worst, feel bad for the Rangers. Maybe this crap gets the players on the same page, because man, they have been quite disjointed this season.
If carp ssid it believe it
Maybe he will go to Dallas sean did
Sounds like a Devils’ problem to me JPP.
Again, I think we sometimes overvalue players based on opinion.
That’s when the knee jerk reactions start about how he’s going to a rival and will make the Rangers pay for the next ten years.
But — and I like Tony D as a player and have always rooted for him — this is too much, and the Rangers did what they had to do, and it is the right thing.
Athletic message board is a cesspool right now. It’s hard to get into moderation over there and a lot of messages are. People using it to put forth their political crap.
Some harping on carp for writing nice things about Tony’s play last year. I guess if you score over 50 pts it’s still no reason to report anything positive.
Well that’s just it AA. Shouldn’t we be more focused on the team and what they’re going to need to do to turn this around?
The whole situation sucks. I said it earlier before this news broke. They invested in Georgiev and in Tony D in the offseason. Neither investment has worked out thus far. And clearly the Tony D situation has gone off the rails once and for all.
They’ll need a RHD.
Welp. There is room on the depth chart now for all those prospects
Where is rykov?
Hajek?
Later lindqvist
Robertson
I’ll settle for seeing bidetto for a few so we can finally cast judgement.
Is TonyD a Derbil yet?
That should work out nicely with PK Subban.
The RD is going to be Bitetto. Short term anyway.
If it was any other position player they might have tried to wait. But you don’t go after the goalie when the president of the organization was once its star goalie.
Unfortunate Craig. Politics have nothing to do with the situation.
I took a look at Carp’s message board and quickly departed. It is a crap show. Reminds me of why I deactivated Twitter. As much as I liked it for following sports, it is otherwise a cesspool of nut cases from all sides.
James Georgie boy has sucked this year but let’s hope they don’t place him on waivers and ruin his value also. This team is worse than they were yesterday
“I saw that not the best things happen to minorities in America, so I decided to use my voice for good. It seemed very appropriate to me, given what minorities are facing now. Racism is still in society.” – Georgiev said to sports.ru recently. Where has he seen racism? From the window of his $100 thousand dollars car? Whatever… the side he’s on is always right, it seems.
This team a d Quinn could use Dylan mcilwrath on the right side of the third pair.
Go get em’
Reclamation project !
Fans really going strong with the rumor that Kreider stepped in and may have hit DeAngelo. Got to say, I hope it’s not true.
NEW POST
And here we go… https://sports.yahoo.com/york-rangers-waive-controversial-defenseman-182841680.html
Controversial player! Oh, my! His life views don’t align with the brainwashed masses! He must be destroyed!
James
It doesn’t matter if it is D’Angelo the Rangers will be tormented by someone or something for the next 10 years. It will probably be their own players and management team. But hey at least we will have plenty of fodder!
Which part of NEW POST do you not understand?