Amazing photo! I want that on a t-shirt! Trouba must play better next game. And I think they will sit Rempe and put in Johnny B. But great gutsy win!
wwpd
Alex
next 2 games on turner – tnt or tbs
SN
Luke may have had the best nickname depending on him equipment.
Why would MSG even have a banner on the board that ‘Canes Win’?
Win Thursday night (big if) and things get very interesting given how in the other series they are beating the snot out of one another.
The problem with Trouba’s penalties were the king of infractions; tripping, not slamming head against boards.
Miller was completely lost on the first Canes goal and actually stopped skating and turned away from shot from point. Help!
Just Win Baby!
Alex
i was there. what a game. very scary as carolina was cycling in our zone countless times
fair amount of kids there from single digits to teenagers
some people have unlimited resources
Alex
rempe didn’t play from 3rd period on
Corporal Clegg
very glad Trouba not hurt from spearing the boards. That was dangerous!
Corporal Clegg
very impressed Schneider could stay in the play after nasty end board collision as well
Corporal Clegg
svechnikov with wicked dirty play on Shesty. as one of the best players on the planet you can’t say he didn’t know exactly what he was doing and had full read of the play. His edgework is impeccable for scoring chances, does he not have the same control when it comes to avoiding a serious collision?
Rob
Why would MSG even have a banner on the board that ‘Canes Win’?
Pretty sure those are all just augmented reality and managed on the telecast side. The boards are static and unchanging in real life. Still dumb and distracting, I hate those things. More reasons ESPN sucks
Rob
Philosophically, I don’t even know how you can claim to be “augmented reality” when you are augmenting reality in an unrealistic way such as suggesting MSG would celebrate a canes win.
Be better, ESPN
bobbyo2019
Troubs extended elbow on that play…. lucky he missed or suspension worthy
Beezle
SN – very true about Luke 🤣
The Flying Troubador is clearly not back to 100%, looked glacial at times and the stick infractions are part of that. Looked like he was a Javelin, was there a tank in the first row or something?
Alex
penn station getting remodeled. shake shack is back. and there’s a raising cane’s. ironic since we’re playing them
bobbyo2019
Next game will be tough ..don’t expect many penalties called ..think Chytil speed would be useful against an aggressive forechecking team
St Pete Eli
Svechnikov knew exactly what he was doing. If Igor doesn’t leave his feet the way he did, he probably sustains a knee injury.
Rob
Screw Svechnikov!
wwpd
Espn controls those board graphics, not msg
wwpd
I’m going to defend the 8 million flying elbow. You try getting your arms up to protect your face flying into the glass without moving your elbow from your hip, while carrying a hockey stick. If suchnikov doesn’t fall down there, truba plasters him right through the body into the boards. When he went airborne, the arms came up to cushion his Collision. Lucky nothing connected because he still responsible for that elbow, yes, but it’s a natural response and probably not a last-ditch effort to Elbow the head or he could have done worse
Upstate Ranger
Great “write-up,” C3!
bobbyo2019
dont disagree on Trouba but the lack of intent wouldnt have mattered
wwpd
maybe yes, maybe no. NHL wheel of discipline. It doesn’t sound like the league is reviewing it for intent to injure the head, which I believe is part of the rule?
wwpd
you know what, I take it back. That might not be a rule 🙃
E3
wasn’t Scratch-my-kov a character in Dr. Zhivago? Laura, his wife.
E3
quickie should get the start in Game 3. Let Igor rest his azz.
E3
that hurricane reporter’s is Luke DeCock. Hung like a Hebrew national.
wwpd
Elbowing shall mean the use of an extended elbow in a manner that may or may not cause injury.
Match Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent by elbowing.
wwpd
the lack of intent therefor matters more in the chat room than on the ice
bobbyo2019
Think Brindamour is getting heat for scratching Kuznetsov last night and playing his replacement Comtois 6 mins in double OT game?
Corporal Clegg
Igor absolutely amazing
the goals let in this far are not on him. They are deflections and defensive lapses. He has saved way more high quality chances and put his team on his back at 3-2 and allowed us to prove why the rangers are the best come back team in the NhL.
he is playing at vezina level
if we win he gets the conn smythe
Corporal Clegg
Trocheck for the rangers and Josh Hart for the Knicks are so fun to root for. They have raised their games at the most important time of the season and of their careers
Beezle
E3 thinking the same thing. Don’t want to run Igor into the ground and Quick has been pretty good all year.
As to getting more speed into the line up, Brodude is the least complicated substitution to make, put him at either 4C or 4RW. Not sure speed is the biggest issue, seems better defensive play/quick decision making the area to work on?
Don’t see a line of Cuylle/Chytil/Kakko being much better than current line and could be worse defensively. Goodrow would have to go 3RW and Wennberg and Kakko down to 4th line. That changes a lot of existing chemistry. Another reason you need to move Goodrow to any line Chytil centers is you can’t have Chytil taking faceoffs. Wennberg isn’t great either but he’s career 6 pts better than Chytil.
Beezle
As good as Igor has been the past two months, Trocheck to me is the invaluable part. Don’t think Bread has the season he did, nor would the specialty units have been as good. I think NYR could still advance with Quick in net but I’m not so sure if they lost Trocheck.
bobbyo2019
A line of Cuylle/Chytil/Kakko would be much better offensively ..and maybe wake Kakko up ..
SN
Chytil or JBro not playing more than 7 mins in that game. Both guys suck eggs on defense.
one switch might be VC and the Ghost of Kakko. The unfinishing Finn has been the biggest disappointment. He has the reaction time of a pregnant yak in the Dzone
SN
Foxy’s pass to Laffy on 2nd goal was just ridiculous. No look cross ice pass to the tape on the goalmouth.
chefs kiss.
SN
Wennberg has been the best center in all 3 zones; replacing him with Flip would be coaching malpractice
CCCP
I’m on the phone already!
bobbyo2019
If Lav puts Chtyil in lineup he will be playing more than 7 minutes
cooscoos
Those high flying skate like the ones by #8 could end in death, and someday will.
cooscoos
The filthy hit on Shesty could have been career-ending.
cooscoos
Kaapo #2 over-all? Riddle me.
cooscoos
Some people pearl grip about fisticuffs. The two plays I listed are what scare me. Priorities!
wwpd
kotkaniemi #3 overall. is some of the shine is coming off the finlandish prospects?
cooscoos
Kakko is said to have grown enormously in Finland competing against older players. Things don’t turn around, not too long before he’s in danger of regressing enormously against younger NHL competition. 19 paltry points 2023-4.
cooscoos
That said, I still have hope 4 the kid.
Alex
i’d love to buy out chytil this summer at the 1/3 rate
sorry not sorry bobby
Gravy
Anyone heard from BDL?
wwpd
NHL counting stats are a mountain sized grain of salt but, Killer Miller credited with zero hits, zero blocks in 29 minutes ice time (and one shot on goal)?
St Pete Eli
Kakko just needs to tweak his hockey IQ. It’s lower than dog’s buried bone.
St Pete Eli
Crazy Canes had 57 SOG and 40 blocked shots.
bobbyo2019
sorry Alex… you are on an island with the Chytil buyout talk
Jeff
kapo does look lost. Also his line has not had the puck enough below the goal line to take advantage of their best attributes, cycling. Bro might be an alternative going forward. LGR
Upstate Ranger
…and still they lost…
Upstate Ranger
NYR PP > CAR PK
NYR PK > CAR PP
NYR #31 > CAR #31
Finish the job, boys.
Alex
bobby you’re the one beating the drum to put chytil in lineup. i maintain that him being out of lineup helped the team a ton. trocheck in that spot is far better than chytil.
bobbyo2019
putting him in the lineup and buying him out are 2 different things ..if he’s healthy Lav will use him ..they are faster and deeper with him
Beezle
I’d do the Chytil buyout in a heartbeat – move on before the next headache. That of course assumes he doesn’t get broken again before then. Even ignoring health, he is not worth the capspace to be the 3C and there is no way you are bumping Trocheck for Chytil leaving RW with The and Zib. Rather re-up Janice for a small bump and put the money elsewhere.
Beezle
They may be faster but I don’t think, all things considered, that they would be deeper. Downgrade on FO, downgrade on defense, downgrade on physicality for possible upgrade on “speed” and offense. We haven’t had problems scoring to this point – #3 in post season at 3.83 gf/gm, #7 in regular at 3.39. None of the teams left in the East scored more.
SN
Never a big Flip fan but would like to see him on RW for a spell if he didn’t have all the injury issues. Cold biz but tough to rely upon a guy who has suffered so many concussions so may need to cut bait.
Wenny is much more versatile and can play up and down the lineup in a pinch. He was leading Seattle forward in TOI before he was acquired. Smart Swedes over unfinished Finns and Czeched out Forwards.
bobbyo2019
How much are you paying the next 3C
bobbyo2019
Beezle how is it a downgrade on physiscality if Remper is playing 5 mins or defense –it was just mean more icetime for 4th line
They may be faster but I don’t think, all things considered, that they would be deeper. Downgrade on FO, downgrade on defense, downgrade on physicality for possible upgrade on “speed” and offense. We haven’t had problems scoring to this point – #3 in post season at 3.83 gf/gm, #7 in regular at 3.39. None of the teams left in the East scored mor
Corporal Clegg
wenneberg I agree is a much better 3C for the money
wonder what it would cost to keep him?
cooscoos
Wenneberg appears, Titanic should take notice.
St Pete Eli
If Laviolette does go to Chytil I bet he puts him on the 4th line with Goodness and VSee
jpowell4968
I’ll start by saying I am an admitted Rempe apologist. I do think when he has been in the last two games he has been good. Along the boards, clearing the puck, hitting ( obviously). If Lavy cannot trust him to play more than 5 minutes, who does he trust to play in his stead aside from the Vets? I don’t think Brodzinksi is the answer. Im curious about Chytill, but what if in these hard hitting playoffs, he gets totally wrecked in his first couple of shifts ( not a remote possibility), you now have a spot that wont play anymore for the rest of the game. So Zero minutes after that. Where does that leave the Rangers and more importantly Chytil? Its fairly common knowledge that the more concussions you have the worse off you are in the both short and long term. Also fairly well known is that each concussion is usually worse than the previous and you are more prone to them once you experience them. Granted, I have no idea if that would happen if Chytil played, it just seems plausible under the circumstances.
To me, I think you play Rempe 8-10 minutes a night with the rest of the forth line and if he drops the ball ( puck?) then take him out. I think most 4th lines play much less than the top 2-3 lines in most hockey games.. But how do you know what he could do if he isn’t given that chance. Plus the Rangers are undefeated in the playoffs and all of the games have been played with Rempe dressed. Why fix something that isn’t broken? But if Lavy refuses to trust him, I do think they need someone to play more than 4-5 minutes so long as those minutes are well played, hard hitting minutes.
Just my 2 cents
Beezle
BobbyO – Chytil will get Wennberg’s minutes. That will be downgrade in all but (one hopes) scoring. As to the 4th line, what you are really asking is: Rempe + a rotating 3rd period cast in his place vs all Wennberg. Rempe is clearly more physical. So then it is Wennbergs additional minutes over Rempe vs the likes of Panarin, Cuylle, Kakko, etc that have been the rotating cast. I don’t think it would be very much difference there except Bread, but marginal in total.
On the other question – 3-3.5M for a 3C. Consider that Wennberg was a 4.5m cap hit, was older than Chytil when he signed it and was able to play all over and up and down – he wasn’t brought there to be 3C.
Beezle
jpowell – hard to critique Lavi, he is doing what he thinks best. I would have tried to play Rempe a little bit more, say 7 or 8 mins. He’s going to miss time too because of the number of PKs and PPs. But totally get the close game, 3rd period, don’t want the rookie to screw up.
Beezle
Been a big Kakko supporter. Certainly has been disappointing offensively. The rest of his game is OK considering age, always going to be ups and downs. Think he has through the next deadline to show the offense, though might get moved over the summer if deal is good. Wish he would just be more selfish and drive the net.
cooscoos
Miller is lost out there.
bobbyo2019
Goodrow Vesey get minutes on 4th line you would assume Wennnberg would play plenty especially if protecting a lead
cooscoos
Troubs, Schneider, RoboCop playing their hearts out. Foxy looks exhausted but always surprises.
cooscoos
What ever happened to Nick Mangold banging on the glass like a mountain gorilla?
Beezle
This playoffs Goodrow has averaged 11:14 ES TOI/GM, Vesey 11:07, Wennberg 13:43 including an 87 minute game yesterday. So Wennberg will get roughly 4 less shifts moving down but will fill the roughly 7 shifts that are taken by Bread, Tro, Cuylle and Kakko when Rempe sits. That gets you Chytil’s potential offense, along with his 40% FO, weak defense and not very physical play even at the best of times. And from a defensive stand point the third line has been good – Cuylle and Kakko on for 1 each and Wennberg 2.
Maybe Lavi gives it a go, but I just don’t see why when you are scoring 3 or 4 every night in a playoff environment. Break glass in case of emergency, not before.
Beezle
Above are playoff TOI/GM (since 97) with a few notable names marked.
wwpd
6-0 in the playoffs and whatever since the trade deadline. I just don’t see why you would dismantle your best checking line at this point. There aren’t really any teams left in the playoffs who are not quite dangerous offensively. Need Wennberg’s 3C minutes.
bobbyo2019
all good points and Lav likes a checking center ..not gonna be Rempe on road though..maybe Chytil on 4th line if not Brodz
TYM
Adding Chytil to the 4th line would be worth a try. I would not mess with the Wennberg group though. I would assume that Carolina will have the Staal group against Trocheck tomorrow. That would put Aho against Mika again. The Rangers really need to focus on that group. If they are able to slow them down, I don’t think Carolina will last very long.
Lookimg at the shift charts is headache inducing and I’d rather someone else do it 🙂 but it appears Wennberg spend a good portion of the game, particularly later on, matched against svech-aho-guenztel?
I spoke with BDL last week, I believe. He’s doing fine; he’s just not a fan of postseason blogging (his words).
I personally think he’s just a lazy old man 🙂
Gravy
Good to hear. Better reason being a grumpy old man than something else.
Alex
pack won in ot last night. up 2-1 in best of 5 series. play at home friday
riley nash had 2 goals including the ot goal. othmann had the other goal on the pp
Calhob
I can never find highlights posted for Wolfpack games.
cooscoos
Wennberg on TV often looks like he’s skating without a stick. All white, including the tape.
cooscoos
Dizzo blondie to Tro, post game: ”What were you thinking when you scored that overtime goal?”
Upstate Ranger
Uncle Larry is fired up:
“Kelly Sutherland should not be allowed to officiate another Rangers game in the playoffs. He should be suspended without pay. The disrespect the referee showed Rempe by wagging a couple of fingers in the vicinity of No. 73’s face while lecturing him after the first-period incident in which he had been knocked down by Jack Drury after perhaps backing into netminder Freddie Andersen was a disgrace.
“Sutherland looked like an unhinged father berating a teen who missed curfew with his daughter on prom night. Rempe smiled. The referee is supposed to be the one who is the adult here. He shouldn’t be allowed near the Rangers the rest of the way.”
True that.
SN
The refs have marching orders from the league. Don’t blame the beat cop for carrying out orders from above.
in a weird way, having Rempe dial back his physical game will only help him focus more on positional hockey and less on taking himself out of the play for big hit. The kid can play and Edstrom even more so.
Do wish Drury would have picked up a Maroon type vet at deadline who knows the refs and wouldn’t be held to a different standard.
Corporal Clegg
Wow. Kinda messed up that thachuck picked a fight with non Fighter
If it was pasta with someone like reinhart then that’s a fair tussle
Matthew Tchachuck I just lost a lot of respect for.
Last time the rangers played them he ran away from rempe and per some commenters turtles more than his tougher brother Brady
Corporal Clegg
not only that. The extra two punches down on the ice very much against the code
imagine pasta dislocated a shoulder or other serious injury from that unnecessary tussle
I wouldn’t want bread fighting there
wwpd
I don’t think pasta is back up laying body shots after the ref tackled tkachuk if Mattie didn’t rabbit punch him in the back of the head from behind on the ice. But it was fun to see
SN
Ka-chuck is a big time punk; will never fight a real fighter. Marchand’s hit on him earlier in game was awesome. Panthers are displaying team toughness up and down the roster though. Next game should be fun.
Sheldon Keefe is out. Wow.. another coach is toast. Toronto is such a dumpster fire
Beezle
So 18 out of 32 franchises canned their coaches, yet Bettman wants to expand the league to be bigger than NFL, MLB and NBA. 🤡
Think the Leaves need a coach like Kakko to call them out every night until they finally man up 😂
bobbyo2019
Panther taunting is quite annoying …hard to believe they have me pulling for Bruins
bobbyo2019
Brindamour going with backup goalie tonight
SN
expansion fees are free millions to owners and more content programming for networks.
buttman is just a stooge for the owners; Labor Lawyer who learned his craft at David Stern’s elbow. Keep labor costs down re hard cap is his primary focus.
Beezle
I asked Peter DeBoer about having 19 HC changes in the NHL since the end of last season: “It’s insanity. We coach in an age where everyone talks about the modern athlete, building relationships in order to coach them. How do you do that with that kind of turnover? It’s like…
So… Piotr Kochetkov starts Game 3. Really think this should be Quick’s game tonight.
CraigWeather
Coat-Check-Off
Calhob
Tkachuk and Pasta threw down their gloves at the same time right after getting off the bench. Pasta didn’t need to do that. He knew what he was doing, just like all the other Bruins at the end of the game. I gained respect for him but didn’t lose any for Matthew at the same time.
St Pete Eli
Brind’Amour taking a page out of Lindy’s playbook, let’s change up our goalie now that we’re down 2-0.
bobbyo2019
would respect Tkatchuk more if he fights Maroon or Frederick…but he won’t
Gravy
To be fair, Pastrnak had a whole conversation from the bench with Tkachuck about fighting, and he even discussed with Montgomery before going on for the shift. It’s not like Tkachuck jumped him.
You guys are joking about starting Quick in Game 3, right? You have a chance to put a stranglehold on the series, and Igor just had a week off before the series.
Gravy
Unless the joke is going over my head. I’ve just seen the comment multiple times now.
bobbyo2019
Guessing that Tkachuck would also have a conversation about fighting with Maroon or Frederick …but wouldn’t actually do it
bobbyo2019
See that Lindy strategy Pete but Andersen has actually played very well. Wondering how that desision plays in the room
Alex
2 years ago we played pitt 3 ots in game 1 and a ton of shots. it took it’s toll on shesty even though we won game 2 . had to be pulled in game 3 and game 4. crosby got hurt in game 5 which turned the tide. and we were losing early in game 5 by 2 before he got hurt.
quick is proven winner. i’d use him today. he can win. and shesty would be fresher for game 4 after the 2 ots in game 2.
Beezle
Gravy, not a joke. Just thought that if there is a time to use him, this would fit. Besides the length of game, shots face, Igor has taken quite a few hits too. I do understand your point about trying to go up 3-0 with our #1 in net, but Quick is at least as good as their #2, right?
Beezle
I’m not getting the issue with Matthew Tkachuk (6’2, 206) fighting Pastrnak (6’0, 196). 2″ and 10lbs?
Beezle
“It’s the little stick penalties that are going to get you,” Jarvis said, “the little stupid penalties that you don’t want to take that usually find a way to come back and bite you.”
Every heavyweight was put off the game before pasta and Tkachuk fought. The only people left were the scrubs and the stars.
I thought it was awesome. The only thing is that Tkachuk probably just gave the bruins a little more gumption after seeing their star winger entering the trenches and joining in the melee with his second fight ever and with a much tougher opponent.
There is zero reason to put Quick in net tonight. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Does anyone even remember who our backup was in 2014? And they didn’t lose to LA because Lundqvist was tired.
if we sweep Carolina, as unlikely as that is, he’ll have a ton of time off. There’s also a 2 day break after game 5.
Igor has just played 2+ games after a week off. I think he’ll be alright.
Gravy
Sweep the Canes and Shesty will get plenty of rest.
Gravy
Or, just read what Ev wrote above my comment.
Corporal Clegg
watched the pasta interview post game
the fight was initiated by tchachuk. Full credit to pasta for answering the bell to lead his team into the trenches.
he did not ask his coach “I said I’m going on”! And that was it.
Old Ranger Fan
Valley’s chance charts say Freddie hasn’t been that great like Shesty, but has been pretty good. In game1 Rangers got 4 and the expected goals were 1.84. Games 2 they scored 4 and the expected was 4.68. He actually was better in game 2, but by expected goals they should have won both. Brind’Amour figures it’s worth trying someone else.
Corporal Clegg
if Matthew wants to maintain his toughness reputation he should pick on players with more fights under their belts. It was clownish for him to be the one to ask pasta to dance.
Corporal Clegg
and again. Matthew continuing to punch when the fight was over was bush league
Admiral Ackbar
what do you guys think will happen tonight?
TYM
I think the Rangers win 1-0 tonight with a 3:00 Chinese Fireplace at the end.u
St Pete Eli
We might be jumping the gun talking sweep. The Canes are like fire ants they just keep biting.
Loneranger
Lone thinks that the Canes played one of their best games last time and if we play just a smart game of controlling neutral ice by checking their asses off reducing time & space we should be fine. Capitalize on their mistakes & rest Shesterken
Gravy
Vegas thinks the Canes win tonight (again).
Beezle
I had a vision, not from E3’s can, of the NYR leading 3-0 with 7 minutes to go in the 3rd period. The final score was 4-2 after surviving a 7 minute Chinese fireplace.
Beezle
5PM and GoodGollyMissMollie still doesn’t have the official lineup? Is it under embargo until 6:59?
Gravy
Won’t be home until about 9:15, so going to try to watch this one on delay without spoilers. May the woots be plentiful in my absence.
mkh
I’m quite nervous about tonights game and even more so with a back up goalie playing. I think that is just a product of rooting for them for 55 years. I think many of you can relate. I would love a 6-0 win and a four game sweep, but pretty certain neither will happen, so I will just pray for a win of any kind tonight and then do the same in whatever remaining games they have. LETS GO RANGERS!!!!!!
Upstate Ranger
E3 likes to predict 7-0 Rangers. I’m good with that. 🙂
Scratches: Rempe, Brodzinski, Jones, Ruhwedel, Edstrom and DomingueLTIR: Wheeler
Filip Chytil plays in his first game since Nov. 2 tonight”
jpowell4968
I’m not happy about it but that means he will score 2 goals, which then will make me happy.
mkh
Admiral – I feel your pain, i’m quite nervous about this game.
I’m surprised that Lav is changing a lineup that is 6-0. Makes some sense with Canes having last change, as someone here had previously pointed out a few games ago. Rempe out against the Aho line is not a good matchup for Rangers. I think adding Cuylie to 4th line makes a good checking line and I prefer Chityl on wing with Wennberg at center.
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CCCP’d in game thread!
For those interested, write-up from the other side by Luke ‘high school was miserable’ https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/nhl/carolina-hurricanes/article288349420.html
what a great picture!
Amazing photo! I want that on a t-shirt! Trouba must play better next game. And I think they will sit Rempe and put in Johnny B. But great gutsy win!
next 2 games on turner – tnt or tbs
Luke may have had the best nickname depending on him equipment.
Why would MSG even have a banner on the board that ‘Canes Win’?
Win Thursday night (big if) and things get very interesting given how in the other series they are beating the snot out of one another.
The problem with Trouba’s penalties were the king of infractions; tripping, not slamming head against boards.
Miller was completely lost on the first Canes goal and actually stopped skating and turned away from shot from point. Help!
Just Win Baby!
i was there. what a game. very scary as carolina was cycling in our zone countless times
fair amount of kids there from single digits to teenagers
some people have unlimited resources
rempe didn’t play from 3rd period on
very glad Trouba not hurt from spearing the boards. That was dangerous!
very impressed Schneider could stay in the play after nasty end board collision as well
svechnikov with wicked dirty play on Shesty.
as one of the best players on the planet you can’t say he didn’t know exactly what he was doing and had full read of the play. His edgework is impeccable for scoring chances, does he not have the same control when it comes to avoiding a serious collision?
Pretty sure those are all just augmented reality and managed on the telecast side. The boards are static and unchanging in real life. Still dumb and distracting, I hate those things. More reasons ESPN sucks
Philosophically, I don’t even know how you can claim to be “augmented reality” when you are augmenting reality in an unrealistic way such as suggesting MSG would celebrate a canes win.
Be better, ESPN
Troubs extended elbow on that play…. lucky he missed or suspension worthy
SN – very true about Luke 🤣
The Flying Troubador is clearly not back to 100%, looked glacial at times and the stick infractions are part of that. Looked like he was a Javelin, was there a tank in the first row or something?
penn station getting remodeled. shake shack is back. and there’s a raising cane’s. ironic since we’re playing them
Next game will be tough ..don’t expect many penalties called ..think Chytil speed would be useful against an aggressive forechecking team
Svechnikov knew exactly what he was doing. If Igor doesn’t leave his feet the way he did, he probably sustains a knee injury.
Screw Svechnikov!
Espn controls those board graphics, not msg
I’m going to defend the 8 million flying elbow. You try getting your arms up to protect your face flying into the glass without moving your elbow from your hip, while carrying a hockey stick. If suchnikov doesn’t fall down there, truba plasters him right through the body into the boards. When he went airborne, the arms came up to cushion his Collision. Lucky nothing connected because he still responsible for that elbow, yes, but it’s a natural response and probably not a last-ditch effort to Elbow the head or he could have done worse
Great “write-up,” C3!
dont disagree on Trouba but the lack of intent wouldnt have mattered
maybe yes, maybe no. NHL wheel of discipline. It doesn’t sound like the league is reviewing it for intent to injure the head, which I believe is part of the rule?
you know what, I take it back. That might not be a rule 🙃
wasn’t Scratch-my-kov a character in Dr. Zhivago? Laura, his wife.
quickie should get the start in Game 3. Let Igor rest his azz.
that hurricane reporter’s is Luke DeCock. Hung like a Hebrew national.
Elbowing shall mean the use of an extended elbow in a manner that may or may not cause injury.
Match Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent by elbowing.
the lack of intent therefor matters more in the chat room than on the ice
Think Brindamour is getting heat for scratching Kuznetsov last night and playing his replacement Comtois 6 mins in double OT game?
Igor absolutely amazing
the goals let in this far are not on him. They are deflections and defensive lapses. He has saved way more high quality chances and put his team on his back at 3-2 and allowed us to prove why the rangers are the best come back team in the NhL.
he is playing at vezina level
if we win he gets the conn smythe
Trocheck for the rangers and Josh Hart for the Knicks are so fun to root for. They have raised their games at the most important time of the season and of their careers
E3 thinking the same thing. Don’t want to run Igor into the ground and Quick has been pretty good all year.
As to getting more speed into the line up, Brodude is the least complicated substitution to make, put him at either 4C or 4RW. Not sure speed is the biggest issue, seems better defensive play/quick decision making the area to work on?
Don’t see a line of Cuylle/Chytil/Kakko being much better than current line and could be worse defensively. Goodrow would have to go 3RW and Wennberg and Kakko down to 4th line. That changes a lot of existing chemistry. Another reason you need to move Goodrow to any line Chytil centers is you can’t have Chytil taking faceoffs. Wennberg isn’t great either but he’s career 6 pts better than Chytil.
As good as Igor has been the past two months, Trocheck to me is the invaluable part. Don’t think Bread has the season he did, nor would the specialty units have been as good. I think NYR could still advance with Quick in net but I’m not so sure if they lost Trocheck.
A line of Cuylle/Chytil/Kakko would be much better offensively ..and maybe wake Kakko up ..
Chytil or JBro not playing more than 7 mins in that game. Both guys suck eggs on defense.
one switch might be VC and the Ghost of Kakko. The unfinishing Finn has been the biggest disappointment. He has the reaction time of a pregnant yak in the Dzone
Foxy’s pass to Laffy on 2nd goal was just ridiculous. No look cross ice pass to the tape on the goalmouth.
chefs kiss.
Wennberg has been the best center in all 3 zones; replacing him with Flip would be coaching malpractice
I’m on the phone already!
If Lav puts Chtyil in lineup he will be playing more than 7 minutes
Those high flying skate like the ones by #8 could end in death, and someday will.
The filthy hit on Shesty could have been career-ending.
Kaapo #2 over-all? Riddle me.
Some people pearl grip about fisticuffs. The two plays I listed are what scare me. Priorities!
kotkaniemi #3 overall. is some of the shine is coming off the finlandish prospects?
Kakko is said to have grown enormously in Finland competing against older players. Things don’t turn around, not too long before he’s in danger of regressing enormously against younger NHL competition. 19 paltry points 2023-4.
That said, I still have hope 4 the kid.
i’d love to buy out chytil this summer at the 1/3 rate
sorry not sorry bobby
Anyone heard from BDL?
NHL counting stats are a mountain sized grain of salt but, Killer Miller credited with zero hits, zero blocks in 29 minutes ice time (and one shot on goal)?
Kakko just needs to tweak his hockey IQ. It’s lower than dog’s buried bone.
Crazy Canes had 57 SOG and 40 blocked shots.
sorry Alex… you are on an island with the Chytil buyout talk
kapo does look lost. Also his line has not had the puck enough below the goal line to take advantage of their best attributes, cycling. Bro might be an alternative going forward. LGR
…and still they lost…
NYR PP > CAR PK
NYR PK > CAR PP
NYR #31 > CAR #31
Finish the job, boys.
bobby you’re the one beating the drum to put chytil in lineup. i maintain that him being out of lineup helped the team a ton. trocheck in that spot is far better than chytil.
putting him in the lineup and buying him out are 2 different things ..if he’s healthy Lav will use him ..they are faster and deeper with him
I’d do the Chytil buyout in a heartbeat – move on before the next headache. That of course assumes he doesn’t get broken again before then. Even ignoring health, he is not worth the capspace to be the 3C and there is no way you are bumping Trocheck for Chytil leaving RW with The and Zib. Rather re-up Janice for a small bump and put the money elsewhere.
They may be faster but I don’t think, all things considered, that they would be deeper. Downgrade on FO, downgrade on defense, downgrade on physicality for possible upgrade on “speed” and offense. We haven’t had problems scoring to this point – #3 in post season at 3.83 gf/gm, #7 in regular at 3.39. None of the teams left in the East scored more.
Never a big Flip fan but would like to see him on RW for a spell if he didn’t have all the injury issues. Cold biz but tough to rely upon a guy who has suffered so many concussions so may need to cut bait.
Wenny is much more versatile and can play up and down the lineup in a pinch. He was leading Seattle forward in TOI before he was acquired. Smart Swedes over unfinished Finns and Czeched out Forwards.
How much are you paying the next 3C
Beezle how is it a downgrade on physiscality if Remper is playing 5 mins or defense –it was just mean more icetime for 4th line
They may be faster but I don’t think, all things considered, that they would be deeper. Downgrade on FO, downgrade on defense, downgrade on physicality for possible upgrade on “speed” and offense. We haven’t had problems scoring to this point – #3 in post season at 3.83 gf/gm, #7 in regular at 3.39. None of the teams left in the East scored mor
wenneberg I agree is a much better 3C for the money
wonder what it would cost to keep him?
Wenneberg appears, Titanic should take notice.
If Laviolette does go to Chytil I bet he puts him on the 4th line with Goodness and VSee
I’ll start by saying I am an admitted Rempe apologist. I do think when he has been in the last two games he has been good. Along the boards, clearing the puck, hitting ( obviously). If Lavy cannot trust him to play more than 5 minutes, who does he trust to play in his stead aside from the Vets? I don’t think Brodzinksi is the answer. Im curious about Chytill, but what if in these hard hitting playoffs, he gets totally wrecked in his first couple of shifts ( not a remote possibility), you now have a spot that wont play anymore for the rest of the game. So Zero minutes after that. Where does that leave the Rangers and more importantly Chytil? Its fairly common knowledge that the more concussions you have the worse off you are in the both short and long term. Also fairly well known is that each concussion is usually worse than the previous and you are more prone to them once you experience them. Granted, I have no idea if that would happen if Chytil played, it just seems plausible under the circumstances.
To me, I think you play Rempe 8-10 minutes a night with the rest of the forth line and if he drops the ball ( puck?) then take him out. I think most 4th lines play much less than the top 2-3 lines in most hockey games.. But how do you know what he could do if he isn’t given that chance. Plus the Rangers are undefeated in the playoffs and all of the games have been played with Rempe dressed. Why fix something that isn’t broken? But if Lavy refuses to trust him, I do think they need someone to play more than 4-5 minutes so long as those minutes are well played, hard hitting minutes.
Just my 2 cents
BobbyO – Chytil will get Wennberg’s minutes. That will be downgrade in all but (one hopes) scoring. As to the 4th line, what you are really asking is: Rempe + a rotating 3rd period cast in his place vs all Wennberg. Rempe is clearly more physical. So then it is Wennbergs additional minutes over Rempe vs the likes of Panarin, Cuylle, Kakko, etc that have been the rotating cast. I don’t think it would be very much difference there except Bread, but marginal in total.
On the other question – 3-3.5M for a 3C. Consider that Wennberg was a 4.5m cap hit, was older than Chytil when he signed it and was able to play all over and up and down – he wasn’t brought there to be 3C.
jpowell – hard to critique Lavi, he is doing what he thinks best. I would have tried to play Rempe a little bit more, say 7 or 8 mins. He’s going to miss time too because of the number of PKs and PPs. But totally get the close game, 3rd period, don’t want the rookie to screw up.
Been a big Kakko supporter. Certainly has been disappointing offensively. The rest of his game is OK considering age, always going to be ups and downs. Think he has through the next deadline to show the offense, though might get moved over the summer if deal is good. Wish he would just be more selfish and drive the net.
Miller is lost out there.
Goodrow Vesey get minutes on 4th line you would assume Wennnberg would play plenty especially if protecting a lead
Troubs, Schneider, RoboCop playing their hearts out. Foxy looks exhausted but always surprises.
What ever happened to Nick Mangold banging on the glass like a mountain gorilla?
This playoffs Goodrow has averaged 11:14 ES TOI/GM, Vesey 11:07, Wennberg 13:43 including an 87 minute game yesterday. So Wennberg will get roughly 4 less shifts moving down but will fill the roughly 7 shifts that are taken by Bread, Tro, Cuylle and Kakko when Rempe sits. That gets you Chytil’s potential offense, along with his 40% FO, weak defense and not very physical play even at the best of times. And from a defensive stand point the third line has been good – Cuylle and Kakko on for 1 each and Wennberg 2.
Maybe Lavi gives it a go, but I just don’t see why when you are scoring 3 or 4 every night in a playoff environment. Break glass in case of emergency, not before.
Above are playoff TOI/GM (since 97) with a few notable names marked.
6-0 in the playoffs and whatever since the trade deadline. I just don’t see why you would dismantle your best checking line at this point. There aren’t really any teams left in the playoffs who are not quite dangerous offensively. Need Wennberg’s 3C minutes.
all good points and Lav likes a checking center ..not gonna be Rempe on road though..maybe Chytil on 4th line if not Brodz
Adding Chytil to the 4th line would be worth a try. I would not mess with the Wennberg group though. I would assume that Carolina will have the Staal group against Trocheck tomorrow. That would put Aho against Mika again. The Rangers really need to focus on that group. If they are able to slow them down, I don’t think Carolina will last very long.
Much more enjoyable to watch the Panthers tonight than it would’ve been had last night’s game gone another way… Whew!
Bruins are getting obliterated in this one… wow.
Yeah, Craig. It’s a party over here lol
Lookimg at the shift charts is headache inducing and I’d rather someone else do it 🙂 but it appears Wennberg spend a good portion of the game, particularly later on, matched against svech-aho-guenztel?
Tkachuk just demolished Pastrnak in a fight. Lol
“Anyone heard from BDL?”
I spoke with BDL last week, I believe. He’s doing fine; he’s just not a fan of postseason blogging (his words).
I personally think he’s just a lazy old man 🙂
Good to hear. Better reason being a grumpy old man than something else.
pack won in ot last night. up 2-1 in best of 5 series. play at home friday
riley nash had 2 goals including the ot goal. othmann had the other goal on the pp
I can never find highlights posted for Wolfpack games.
Wennberg on TV often looks like he’s skating without a stick. All white, including the tape.
Dizzo blondie to Tro, post game: ”What were you thinking when you scored that overtime goal?”
Uncle Larry is fired up:
“Kelly Sutherland should not be allowed to officiate another Rangers game in the playoffs. He should be suspended without pay. The disrespect the referee showed Rempe by wagging a couple of fingers in the vicinity of No. 73’s face while lecturing him after the first-period incident in which he had been knocked down by Jack Drury after perhaps backing into netminder Freddie Andersen was a disgrace.
“Sutherland looked like an unhinged father berating a teen who missed curfew with his daughter on prom night. Rempe smiled. The referee is supposed to be the one who is the adult here. He shouldn’t be allowed near the Rangers the rest of the way.”
True that.
The refs have marching orders from the league. Don’t blame the beat cop for carrying out orders from above.
in a weird way, having Rempe dial back his physical game will only help him focus more on positional hockey and less on taking himself out of the play for big hit. The kid can play and Edstrom even more so.
Do wish Drury would have picked up a Maroon type vet at deadline who knows the refs and wouldn’t be held to a different standard.
Wow. Kinda messed up that thachuck picked a fight with non Fighter
If it was pasta with someone like reinhart then that’s a fair tussle
Matthew Tchachuck I just lost a lot of respect for.
Last time the rangers played them he ran away from rempe and per some commenters turtles more than his tougher brother Brady
not only that. The extra two punches down on the ice very much against the code
imagine pasta dislocated a shoulder or other serious injury from that unnecessary tussle
I wouldn’t want bread fighting there
I don’t think pasta is back up laying body shots after the ref tackled tkachuk if Mattie didn’t rabbit punch him in the back of the head from behind on the ice. But it was fun to see
Ka-chuck is a big time punk; will never fight a real fighter. Marchand’s hit on him earlier in game was awesome. Panthers are displaying team toughness up and down the roster though. Next game should be fun.
The Uncle Larry Sutherland comment is gold.
Ooooh white towels!
Sheldon Keefe is out. Wow.. another coach is toast. Toronto is such a dumpster fire
So 18 out of 32 franchises canned their coaches, yet Bettman wants to expand the league to be bigger than NFL, MLB and NBA. 🤡
Think the Leaves need a coach like Kakko to call them out every night until they finally man up 😂
Panther taunting is quite annoying …hard to believe they have me pulling for Bruins
Brindamour going with backup goalie tonight
expansion fees are free millions to owners and more content programming for networks.
buttman is just a stooge for the owners; Labor Lawyer who learned his craft at David Stern’s elbow. Keep labor costs down re hard cap is his primary focus.
The full quote is worth reading lol
So… Piotr Kochetkov starts Game 3. Really think this should be Quick’s game tonight.
Coat-Check-Off
Tkachuk and Pasta threw down their gloves at the same time right after getting off the bench. Pasta didn’t need to do that. He knew what he was doing, just like all the other Bruins at the end of the game. I gained respect for him but didn’t lose any for Matthew at the same time.
Brind’Amour taking a page out of Lindy’s playbook, let’s change up our goalie now that we’re down 2-0.
would respect Tkatchuk more if he fights Maroon or Frederick…but he won’t
To be fair, Pastrnak had a whole conversation from the bench with Tkachuck about fighting, and he even discussed with Montgomery before going on for the shift. It’s not like Tkachuck jumped him.
You guys are joking about starting Quick in Game 3, right? You have a chance to put a stranglehold on the series, and Igor just had a week off before the series.
Unless the joke is going over my head. I’ve just seen the comment multiple times now.
Guessing that Tkachuck would also have a conversation about fighting with Maroon or Frederick …but wouldn’t actually do it
See that Lindy strategy Pete but Andersen has actually played very well. Wondering how that desision plays in the room
2 years ago we played pitt 3 ots in game 1 and a ton of shots. it took it’s toll on shesty even though we won game 2 . had to be pulled in game 3 and game 4. crosby got hurt in game 5 which turned the tide. and we were losing early in game 5 by 2 before he got hurt.
quick is proven winner. i’d use him today. he can win. and shesty would be fresher for game 4 after the 2 ots in game 2.
Gravy, not a joke. Just thought that if there is a time to use him, this would fit. Besides the length of game, shots face, Igor has taken quite a few hits too. I do understand your point about trying to go up 3-0 with our #1 in net, but Quick is at least as good as their #2, right?
I’m not getting the issue with Matthew Tkachuk (6’2, 206) fighting Pastrnak (6’0, 196). 2″ and 10lbs?
Looking at you Troubs!
Every heavyweight was put off the game before pasta and Tkachuk fought. The only people left were the scrubs and the stars.
I thought it was awesome. The only thing is that Tkachuk probably just gave the bruins a little more gumption after seeing their star winger entering the trenches and joining in the melee with his second fight ever and with a much tougher opponent.
There is zero reason to put Quick in net tonight. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Does anyone even remember who our backup was in 2014? And they didn’t lose to LA because Lundqvist was tired.
*out of
its that Tkachuk is a weasel…a very effective and great player but a weasel who picks his spots
Also, we beat kotchetkov 2 years ago.
if we sweep Carolina, as unlikely as that is, he’ll have a ton of time off. There’s also a 2 day break after game 5.
Igor has just played 2+ games after a week off. I think he’ll be alright.
Sweep the Canes and Shesty will get plenty of rest.
Or, just read what Ev wrote above my comment.
watched the pasta interview post game
the fight was initiated by tchachuk. Full credit to pasta for answering the bell to lead his team into the trenches.
he did not ask his coach “I said I’m going on”! And that was it.
Valley’s chance charts say Freddie hasn’t been that great like Shesty, but has been pretty good. In game1 Rangers got 4 and the expected goals were 1.84. Games 2 they scored 4 and the expected was 4.68. He actually was better in game 2, but by expected goals they should have won both. Brind’Amour figures it’s worth trying someone else.
if Matthew wants to maintain his toughness reputation he should pick on players with more fights under their belts. It was clownish for him to be the one to ask pasta to dance.
and again. Matthew continuing to punch when the fight was over was bush league
what do you guys think will happen tonight?
I think the Rangers win 1-0 tonight with a 3:00 Chinese Fireplace at the end.u
We might be jumping the gun talking sweep. The Canes are like fire ants they just keep biting.
Lone thinks that the Canes played one of their best games last time and if we play just a smart game of controlling neutral ice by checking their asses off reducing time & space we should be fine. Capitalize on their mistakes & rest Shesterken
Vegas thinks the Canes win tonight (again).
I had a vision, not from E3’s can, of the NYR leading 3-0 with 7 minutes to go in the 3rd period. The final score was 4-2 after surviving a 7 minute Chinese fireplace.
5PM and GoodGollyMissMollie still doesn’t have the official lineup? Is it under embargo until 6:59?
Won’t be home until about 9:15, so going to try to watch this one on delay without spoilers. May the woots be plentiful in my absence.
I’m quite nervous about tonights game and even more so with a back up goalie playing. I think that is just a product of rooting for them for 55 years. I think many of you can relate. I would love a 6-0 win and a four game sweep, but pretty certain neither will happen, so I will just pray for a win of any kind tonight and then do the same in whatever remaining games they have. LETS GO RANGERS!!!!!!
E3 likes to predict 7-0 Rangers. I’m good with that. 🙂
I’m conflicted, but if Quick plays and we win, I feel that would be entirely demoralizing to the Canes
get through first 10 minutes –than its anyone’s game
I have a knot in my stomach over this friggin game which hasn’t even started!
CHYTIL IS BACK!!
as per Mollie:
”
Rangers lineup tonight for Game 3 vs. Hurricanes:
Kreider-Zibanejad-Roslovic
Panarin-Trocheck-Lafrenière
Chytil-Wennberg-Kakko
Cuylle-Goodrow-Vesey
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Gustafsson-Trouba
Shesterkin
Quick
Scratches: Rempe, Brodzinski, Jones, Ruhwedel, Edstrom and DomingueLTIR: Wheeler
Filip Chytil plays in his first game since Nov. 2 tonight”
I’m not happy about it but that means he will score 2 goals, which then will make me happy.
Admiral – I feel your pain, i’m quite nervous about this game.
I’m surprised that Lav is changing a lineup that is 6-0. Makes some sense with Canes having last change, as someone here had previously pointed out a few games ago. Rempe out against the Aho line is not a good matchup for Rangers. I think adding Cuylie to 4th line makes a good checking line and I prefer Chityl on wing with Wennberg at center.