A glorious victory over the Blues at the Garden last night; the Rangers actually played hard for the entire 60 minutes, something not seen often this season. In doing so they came away with the 4-0 win (no ENGs) and another important two points to stay ahead of Carolina who beat the Derbils in the afternoon.
The game featured two of the trade deadline newcomers – Wennberg and Roslovic. Jones was un-Prucha’d to fill the roster spot for the injured Trouba as the other acquisition, Chad Ruhwedel, got in too late to be able to start. Expect to see him in the lineup on Monday against the Devils. Schneider moved up to take Trouba’s position.
Of the two , Roslovic had the better game. He was noticable in all aspects other than the score sheet. Speed and tenacity were front and center. Hopefully our Swedish-Persian center was not vaccinated against those 😆 and catches some of that too. Wennberg had his moments, too, but was not quite in synch with his linemates, though that is hardly unexpected with little praccy.
Trocheck (23, PPG) at 05:51 and Vesey (13) at 19:37 both scored in the first period. In a bit of bad luck (some would call it a conspiracy), young Matt Rempe had a goal disallowed after review, officials saying the puck did not completely cross the goal line. They appeared to be the only ones who felt that way. Instead the Rangers would need to wait until 06:23 of the third period for Kreider (32, PPG) to go up 3-0. Kakko (8, PPG) added the icing at 11:23.
There were some flaws (Panarin, even with two assists, did not have one of his better games) but overall it was a very enjoyable game to watch. Perhaps most important was the more even distribution of minutes – Cuylle 10:39 and Rempe 11:08 were the lows, Trocheck 20:13 and Zibanejad 19:16 the highs of the forwards. Fox continues to be a bit overworked, logging 24:24 in part because of special teams.
Next up are the NJ Devils on Monday at 7PM EDT at MSG.
203 responses to “Rangers 4, Singing the Blues 0”
Sorry the delay this morning, think CCCP may be working and I was digging out from 8″ of igloo snow. Better snow tonight for boarding tomorrow 😁
Clean game
thought Wennberg and Roslovic both liked to carry the puck and look to make plays. Wenn set up 50 a couple of times and JR had some rushes where he created time and space only to be looking for Meeka mouse who was MIA.
noticeable talent difference with no JBro
watched the Wennberg highlight vid of his goal and he looks like A cross between Gretzky and Jari Kurri but seriously has good vision, spacing and doesn’t just get rid of puck like it’s a hot potato
only downside was nobody going after Butch who got angry after Schneider leveled him and of course knocked Lindy down. Jibes was just about to almost get angry about it. Maybe next time
Carped!
Repost:
I be don’t know what to think about Miller but our very experienced, knowledgeable and successful head coach and coaching staff have put him on the ice for major minutes against the opposition’s top lines all season now. I’d love to hear their opinions about the criticisms voiced here.
Jibes = jones
Blues didn’t do themselves any favors, but:
Jones had a solid night, especially since he goes a month between games.
New Rangers are an upgrade, clear as day; still a bit surprised that CBJ traded Roslovic for a 4th but clearly he wasn’t in the future plans there.
Rempe has turned from a sideshow into a potentially legitimate roster player, 11min ice time including a reward of a late power play shift. Playing alongside tough crafty veteran like Goodrow will really benefit him. I wonder if Edstrom is surprised how he was passed on the depth chart?
Amazing we have three players from the 2020 draft class dressing regularly including the 1st 3rd and 6th round picks.
The week ahead will be a real bear, all games vs hated division rivals, top nhl contenders, and other potential first round match ups and recent champions loaded with cheap shot artists. I think we’ll know a lot more about the team by next weekend.
and the following week maybe even worse?
wwpd:
kind of a redo of the week which began at the Stadium Series (islanders, Dallas, Montreal, Flyers, Blue Jackets from Sunday to Sunday) – 5 games in 8 nights.
islanders of course are playing better than when last seen. That’s going to be a tough game. I’m sure the fans will be well-behaved on st Patrick’s day as well.
SN made a great point regarding Jack Black’s carry into the O zone second only to Bread. He’s got a motor and a set of wheels. Looks like the quickest player on the team. Tremendous upgrade. Expecting good things entering springtime
Admiral I was trying to take my family to that game but not willing to pay $1000 for standing room tickets. Kids will have to learn to hate the Isles from afar like I did!
That is, I’m not willing to pay that price for seated tickets either but the standing room was icing on the overpriced cake
as long as rempe keeps going to the front of the net, the snarl he brings is an element that March hockey needs
endstrom looks a bit more skilled but doesn’t bring that “element” which is what a 4th line really benefits from
Both are getting valuable experience this year
in a cap world we will be losing the UFAs and will have roster space for endstrom again in September
Mr. Jibes and me! 🤣
Longest running mass individual refusals in NHL history: Torts asking Zebras, off-ice officials, ex-players, locker room attendants et al ‘Wanna grab a beer?’
Along came Jibes
Torts is a symptom of the NHL officiating problems but the league will refuse to see it that way. NHL needs to look at fan disgust at current state of officiating in NFL caused by incompetents and questionable rule changes mandated by owners/league. Don’t go down that road, fix the problems now before it is too late.
That ‘no goal’ call last night was uber quick. SalmonJoe’s moronic bragging about all the dozens of cameras and angles in Toronto pathetic
To be clear, I’d have a beer anytime with Torts. I like his honest brio.
I would have a beer with you guys, but the drive is too long, and I’m chasing a lifetime 😉
Undefeated rangers goalie spicy pork extended for a year, one-way contract
Torts off-season to wife: ’Wanna grab a coffee?’
‘…uh, not right now, dear…
Notice how often The North Tower (# 73) looks to his bench coaches for approval/advice. Smart kid. I’ve seen too many NHL players seemingly take offense at in-game input.
Eli – your drive is too long, but your excellent short game gets you out of trouble. :)
coos
You nailed it to the tee.
And by the way to my ecstatic joy, the pens are dead. Hopefully for a lifetime!
Rempe seems very coachable. He will make the most out of talent.
I still beware of the Penguin.
coos – rempe=south, edstrom=north based upon birthplace
nice breakdown of how that all happened and what was said
love me some fiery torts
I hate the flyers but it’s so hard to quit torts
If Robert E Lee were Robert D Lee, would his name carry the same cachet? And what about B S Grant?
I think we know exactly what kind of music Kakko is playing in that car:
Which Countries Have the Most Metal Bands Per Capita?
NY Times throwing an afternoon cocktail party in honor of Norm’s return to The Athletic.
Almost a rebellion in old locker room about DelZaster blasting his distasteful music.
nice feature. First I’ve seen something like that since carp retired. I love getting a little view of the day to day with players
Vikings/Metalheads
“If somebody’s feeling well, they will maybe play me in ping pong, maybe. I think they’re scared, but if they are feeling well, they will play me in ping pong.”
no way he cracked a smile during this interview.
For TommyG from the last thread, on the subject of Miller-bashing, I was surprised to see you refer to him as a giveaway machine having watched ~90% of games this year. So I looked it up, and sure enough among NHL defensemen he ranks 126th in giveaways with 22 on the season.
Granted he’s also not an assist machine (17) who would naturally generate tons of turnovers (e.g. Karlsson). But 126th in TO’s, 36th in hits (right behind Schneider) and 71st in Shots Blocked (just ahead of Schneider) does not strike me as a bad defender, especially considering he’s primarily a finesse and stickwork guy. Rangers are lucky to have him imho.
all this extra shooting practice – would love to see him implement it in a real game!
(At that party, coos, I was looking well and had the prime rib.)
good homework norm
not sure what miller will cost to keep. But currently he is very important to the team. And he has not yet peaked in my estimation.
My main beef with Miller-probably not prime rib- is how often he is behind the play on odd man rushes. When I see the opponent bearing down on Igor I see that 79 on his back way too often and frequently when he appears the puck is already in the net. I’m not sure if this is real or me looking for problems in his game this. He gets caught up ice way more than Fox and doesn’t add nearly as much to the offense. His decision making on the other team’s half of the ice is what needs improvement and that doesn’t seem to be happening.
the hits (overcounted) and give-away (undercounted) stats compiled by nhl are a joke. One of these games I will track GVAs and TKAs along with hits for be a comparison.
A hit means separating player from puck not just hammering a guy after he made a pass; “A hit in the NHL is an intentional contact with a player who has the puck, causing them to lose possession”
have seen that a few times for sure OrF. Hopefully he learns from those mistakes. The most egregious of which was a week or two ago when he seemingly gave up on the play, and the goalscorer beat him by a half step
but he is human. And I myself accidentally did that in an overtime loss this year in beer league. Even though I know better.
SN, I award you an epic fail for your counter to my unassailable wonderfulness of statistical analysis. Are you OK with Trouba’s high NHL hits count? Are you OK with Fox’s low giveaway count (and good ratio to assists)? That said, I look forward to your hits and takeaways counts. I’m sure you’ll be more objective than those NHL pikers.
Miller and Trouba get toasted from time to time, ORF, like all pairs who defend against top lines. The question is how often relative to other top D pairs, given we don’t see all minutes of all other games. Natural Stat Trick, or whatever it’s called, is a good place to look at pairs stats.
My take is when both these new editions morph into our system we’re going to have (3) solid offensive lines & a good checking line. Chris Drury really waived his magic baton to create this opus. Furthermore it removes much pressure from the Kreider line. This team now has far more flexibility due to the genius of Drury
https://x.com/isuckatpicking/status/1765566193002578014?s=61
https://x.com/oilersjack/status/1766270013248573518?s=61
Beezle luv your earlier or later take on Miller. But agree totally with you. Miller can’t play defense and will never be a good defenceman. Has anybody thought of making him a winger. He cannot respond well when presured in the corners and always gives up the puck.
Canes win again. That game in Raleigh this week is huge. The whole week is huge. Whoever made the schedule is a complete schmuck.
Norm, go back to your safe space and troll away
most of the hit stats are erroneously applied as evidenced by anyone watching pro hockey and then viewing the box score totals, that includes Kreider, Trouba and Blais last night.. The interns counting these stats are not being audited by kpmg.
Mrs Tortorella: “John, can you take out the trash?”
JT: “Not a f–ing chance. f– off. I’m not f–ing going.”
Norm delivers to me a prime rib.
Recently, I sense the powers that be finally realize that Miller will never learn D, so are authorizing him to let loose on O and play him that way and let his partner die of abandonment and perpetual odd-man rushes. If I’m Twerkin, I see this and I make my displeasure heard.
Prospect Matt Rempe’s late-blooming push: ‘He’s on this exponential curve’
awesome article from Sept 2020 (!) from The Athletic; cant paste link but encourage only the fans (and haters) to read this article and then not root got this kid.
got = for
I thought Shesty looked very focused and efficient in his movements from the very beginning last night. Hope he continues that through the end of June.
Is it just me, or does Schneider seem to play better and play more aggressive when he needs to step up and fill Trouba’s spot. I thought he played well.
The schedule makers really screwed the Rangers. They have the 11th worst schedule for remainder of season compared to Isles, Canes and Flyers who have 16, 17 and 18th worst schedules respectively.
T
In regards to Miller, I neither love Miller nor Hate Miller. I certainly wouldn’t trade him at this point, as he is still young and I do think he will learn to play better defense. As someone else alluded to, he seems to make poor decision in the offensive zone and is often chasing players heading toward Igor or Quick in an odd man rush. I also think he relies WAY too much on his long reach and poke check. I would like to see him use his large frame and play a more physical game and I do think that will help his overall game going forward. He will need to be more physical come the playoffs for the Rangers to succeed.
Isles won their 6th straight and currently sit in a wild card spot. F—k me…. 🤦♂️
[Warning: strong opinion. Read no further if you’re against those.]
Here’s the thing, SN and sidekicks. I’m an experienced coach and player, and unlike those crazy kids of your imagination whom you have working in the NHL stats dept., I know what the fork I’m looking at, and Miller, despite what y’all have convinced yourselves of on this obscure site, is an excellent NHL defenseman. But don’t believe me. Would Laviolette (even though he’s an inexperienced moron) or his predecessors (idiots all) or Drury come to that, let him on the ice much less rely on him against top opposition if he were as lousy as you claim?
All that said, I’m marching on Washington tomorrow with my MillerSux placard to defend to the death yours and coos’s right to bash our #2 defenseman. Carp Diem. He su-u-u-cks!! Dunno how anyone can root for the guy.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Strong opinion this site is renowned for.
You wanna go where everybody knows your game.
objectivity precludes particularism
we better win division because the isles are going to beat out philly for third
If they can’t beat the azzlanders well, you know the rest.
st pete
the isles scare me. i think they very well could beat us. i hope carolina or fla takes care of them
https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/rangers-agree-to-terms-with-louis-domingue
not sure if this was posted
Pyles peaking early — enjoying the confluence of playing well under new coach and easy schedule.
Alex
I agree. However I really don’t care who they play. They’re going to have to beat the best to raise the cup anyway so bring on the baitfish.
I’m not going to worry about the Pyles.
https://sanjosehockeynow.com/san-jose-sharks-alexander-barabanov-new-york-rangers-trade-deadline/
Grier will be looking for another job after deal like this…. who eats salary for 6 years and sends picks back on the trade. Also used used up his retention slots so he couldn’t move other UFAs and now will get nothing. Hertl would have had just as much or more value next trade deadline..especially if healthy
he ate 1.5 for 6 years, but shed 6.7 for 6 years. You can argue the value, but not getting out from that contract. I mentioned it many times, Drury should have been all over that. Hertl at 6.7 is a steal.
not at that age or term but where was Drury getting 6.7 to spend?
if Grier retained on Barabanov with the Rangers, he’d be stuck with Hertl till the summer of 25, when Burns comes off the books.
I’d argue he was at the perfect age, right in the Rangers window.
But Drury did not have the cap space regardless
there are ways.
I’d would have preferred Hertl because of term. You can’t count on Chytil coming back, and if he does, you make him a RW. But I really like the Wennberg move, so I’m good with how it turned out.
he would have had to move multiple players from roster to accomodate
Chytil at wing hasn’t worked. Guy’s a center if he ever plays again.
I find it difficult to believe that they were unable to find a third team to eat 25-50% of that contract for a late (4th or so) pick
Cheadle is finito. The “collision” he had with Fast was a 0.01 on the Richter scale.
Chytil as center has never worked.
What, now Chytil’s no good either?
The window is about to close with this core if Disco Mika doesn’t wake up.
Cheadle anywhere hasn’t worked. He’s had stretches when he was adequate but mostly ineffective. Horrible at the dot. Weak defensively, unable to dish to his wingers generally, not physical at all, easily injured, etc etc etc
you are correct Norm. He’s not any good….
Chytil has moments, fans get excited, and then he goes back to being Chytil.
Chytil is a nice kid and all but he really does belong in one of the Euro leagues and if he does decide to continue playing professionally that should be where.
Geez, and there I was thinking he was coming off a nice 20-goal season last year before getting doinked. Tough crowd.
They will really be in a bad way with the Cytil contract unless they can work something out where he gets paid as a consultant/player development guy/scout and he agrees to retire and void the remainder of the contract. I say up front I have no idea if that sort of thing passes league review.
I can’t see his agent allowing him to be declared “healthy” for purposes of a buyout during that small window as he’ll net 4.4M vs 13.3M. And if he is physically able to come off IR during the next season, wtf do the NYR do with him?
There won’t be any cap space and why on earth would they want to fill a roster spot on a (hopefully) cup contending team with a gun with 5 bullets and one blank? Nobody will take him without NYR eating half the salary, if not a third team for another 25% and they are still left with the 50% cap hit that they won’t have room for.
this is Chytil in a nutshell, in his “breakout” playoff, he scored 5 goals in 3 games, and 2 in the other 17. Last year he scored 7 in a 5 games stretch, and then went the next 19 games without a goal.
Remind me not to get a concussion while working for you 🙂
Fox skipping praccy, under the weather per Mollie
Norm – it is not his first. Or second. I think we are up to number four? For his own good he should probably not play again, but we have of course seen others insist on doing so to their own detriment.
Norm, these guys hate Chytil
And he didn’t score his 20+ goals spaced out correctly? What in the wide world of sports…
norm, even contrarians are wrong sometimes….
I’m getting the picture, BobbyO. But Chytil was the 2C to start the year as I recall, playing good hockey on that line. I agree low odds that he makes a complete return, but the bashing of a 24-yr-old coming off a promising season and a good start to this one. Seems pretty harsh to me.
e3, I agree that you Miller and Chytil contrarians are possibly in error.
not the actual point. If Chytil is not scoring goals, what else is he doing? He has zero effect on games if he doesn’t score. Not good on faceoffs. Not good defensively. Not physical at all. Does not make his line mates better. He’s just a guy.
Chytil was centered the second line, but he was not the 2C. That was Trocheck. Trocheck played all the tough minutes the 2C usually play. Chytil, as usual, was sheltered.
I remember his start to this season on the second line. 0 goals, 6 assists and they were going like hell. Maybe I remember that wrong.
Chytil had best face off percentage last playoff series
sadly, life is full of inequities. As for Cheadle, soon just brushing his teeth will jar his brain. Is it fair? Of course not. But it is what it is….
and his good start to this season, goalless in 10. 5 assists over 2 games, 1 in the rest.
Chytil is not the center they need, but some other team could have used him before he went down. There was value there and he could have been the best trade chip if Drury wanted to make a serious move to reshape the roster in a meaningful way. Now that title, unfortunately, shifts to Miller probably, who also has value but will be due a big new contract that will be tough for the rangers to manage next summer after extending schneider, lindgren, Lafren, kakko et al.
And by serious move I mean a young or prime player or players who also have real value, not a deadline rental and picks.
To his credit and detriment Chytil carries the puck over the middle …. not all the centers do that
Bobby – are you actually arguing that Cheadle is good on face offs? You can’t be serious man. You cannot be serious. The ball hit the line. Chalk flew up. It was clearly in. How can you possibly call that out? How many are you gonna miss?
No man can rise above his own worldview.
I am just pointing out he was better than everyone else last playoff series… you guys seem to be stuck sometimes on the fact that young players can’t improve
Nothing to do with Chytil, but FO% is a relic stat, right up there with +/- in terms of importance. Famously zero correlation with winning games. You try to do it well like anything else, board battles, positioning… Just one of many, many factors, but we’re drawn to it because play is stopped for a moment. It’s how you react after FOs won or lost that matters—“won” FOs don’t even result in possession much of the time.
In his 10 games this season Chytil’s FO% was 43.3%. His career (since 2018, first full season) number is 40.5% on 2003 taken. Of all forwards since 2018 with at least 1500 FO, he is #163/165. That is not #2 center material, maybe not even #3. I’ll grant that in those 10 games he did seem more engage along the boards than previous seasons, 10 games though is a small sample and early in the season when nobody is banged up yet.
If you knew for sure he would get 40-50pts a season you might be able to tolerate the FO and defensive weaknesses, but he only did that one time and he has serious health concerns. One player who is worse at the dot than him is Jack Hughes. Are we confusing Chytil’s offense with Hughes? (144pts vs 268 in 337 games vs 292 ?) Compare him to Buch who in his time with the NYR consistently hit that mark and had 0.65 ppg vs Chytil’s 0.43.
I really don’t get how that is hating on the guy. He’s at best a #3C. He has not shown enough offensively to be considered more than a 3rd line winger either (where you might excuse the defense and euro-physicality).
Norm for a FO to be won the team has to have possession.
bdl, does Zibanejad stink because he’s a streaky scorer? Is it possible to play a strong game and put up no points? Chytil’s line got off to a great start—go watch the highlights if you need reminding—and it was an open question after Trocheck stepped up, and it stayed strong, whether Chytil would step back in when he returned, which, sadly, he never did. That line wasn’t working despite him, but because of him.
are we seriously comparing Chytil to Zibanejad? You honestly don’t see the difference in their games?
He may be young age wise but in the entire history of hockey, going back to 1917-18, Chytil is in the top third of games played – #1609 of 5145. Put another way, 68.7% of all forwards to have played the game have played fewer than Chytil.
cheadle > McDavid
bobby are you high. chytil and the others from the kid line were awful last playoff series. as was bread.
i agree with beezle that the reason he won’t be bought out is his agent won’t allow him to be viewed to be healthy for purposes of the 1/3 buyout.
we’re going to have to attach probably a 1st rd pick to move him and his remaining 3 years.
worst case is by next season he’s then ruled healthy and we have his full contract hitting our cap. somewhat offset by LTIR. until his next concussion. we’ll then have to use other assets to replace him next trade deadline
funny you mention hating on the guy. you hate on a far better player in kreider.
For the curious, 117 games played is the 50% mark for fowards.
Beezle, that’s just flat-out wrong. You see goals scored against right after your center wins the faceoff all the time. All you have to do to be credited with a win is to draw it backward. Occasionally that’s clean and to a D, but most of the time it’s to a winger who keeps it or loses it. Check the stats some time and see which team won the FO before a goal, recently or otherwise, and you’ll see why there’s no correlation with winning games. You just need to be reasonably competitive.
top 5 centers in recent years: Gretzky, Messier, Lemieux, Crosby, McDavid, and cheadle
ooops, top 6
st pete
we’re not winning the cup. just like you hate the pens i hate the isles and their fans. i would have to block some people i know in real life if isles beat us. regardless of what the isles did in the next rd. let isles play and hopefully lose to carolina or fla.
BDL, that’s bad-faith argument. I was of course not claiming Chytil is as good as Zibanejad. I’m making the case that streakiness in point accumulation is not necessarily the result of poor play. Chytil scored over 20 goals last season, and that counts. A player who scores a hat-trick is not a bad player when he doesn’t score the next three games.
being streaky is gone, if you have other parts to your game. Chytil is a one trick pony.
I don’t think there is a center in NHL history that loses draws AS CLEANLY as Cheadle. He’s awful.
Norm – my googlefoo is weak, I can’t find an NHL definition. However, I point you to this from a PDF on arXiv.org by SPORTLOGiQ, Montreal, QC
Norm, I just go by what I see on the ice. It’s possible I’m to harsh on miller because for his size he doesn’t use it and loves to stick check which I hate, take the player out with your body.
Norm, I guess what I see with miller is he has trouble getting the puck out of zone and makes some really bad passes to the other team but again it could be he plays against the top lines. Miller also does this near his goalie and drives me crazy. I don’t notice the other ranger defensemen doing this but he plays top minutes against top lines.
Lidström never took the body. I’m not saying Miller is in that stratosphere of defenders, but even though he’s more physical than he used to be, he’s always going to be a stick-first player who uses his size for its reach, not its mass. No problem if you prefer hitters like Trouba, but not all good defenders are hitters.
Norm,I think you said it, not a fan of his game.
they are not attaching a first round pick to move him …Geez. best case is he comes back healthy and scores 30 worst case another injury and LTIR/retirement. And I don’t hate Kreider .. I just think he has another level and can be more physical.
seems like quick in net tonight and igor tomorrow
If Miller makes too many bad passes he’d have too many turnovers, which he doesn’t. Trouba leads in that category, but not by a lot. The Rangers D is very good (in the league) at taking care of the puck, Lindy the safest hands of the six.
worst case is chytil starts supposedly healthy. plays even more on perimeter than before. understandable but that doesn’t help the team. then gets another concussion. so LTIR. then we give up a 1st at deadline to replace him.
Beezle. Interesting lookup, makes my point very well.
bobbyO, agree on Kreider. I was adamant on here that the rangers should resign him but I am disaapointed in that Kreider isn’t more physical with the mixture of size and speed.
BobbyO – who is being cut from the roster to accomodate Chytil, either in the pre-season (assuming he is ready then) or during the season? Or is the team going to block off his cap hit on day one of the season, just in case? Who is replacing him if/when he gets hurt and put on LTIR again? As a GM, is it really worth gambling that he will a) remain healthy *and* b) improve upon not only his scoring of last season but the other areas of his game?
better players than chytil have had their careers ruined and stopped by concussions. lindros and lafontaine to name 2
but they weren’t due to current cap rules
it’s nothing personal. it’s business
meant weren’t during current cap rules
Cheadle is damaged goods. Sucks to be him for sure. I could see him getting another concussion, as innocuous as it is, due to the group hug after a ranger goal is scored and he’s on the ice. His noodle is best served by retiring.
Alex
I’m on your side about the baitfish. I would much rather avoid playing them as well.
Why are we going around in circles about a Czech center who me never effectively play again, when Dajenabiz is the problem.
If Chytil is fourced to retire because of to omany concussions, how does that affect his cap hit? Is it completely off the rangers cap?
If the rangers play the islanders in the 1st round we all know the Rangers will loose. Too the islander fan that will be there stanely cup.
we will need a center next year regardless
st pete
can be more than 1 problem. mika still does a lot more than chytil can ever dream of.
tommy g
LTIR not nearly as good as coming off books entirely. that’s why we’ve seen plenty of guys traded to ariz who never played there.
bobby
need center yes. a lot easier if they’re allowed to buy out chytil to accomplish that
To the notion that how the Rangers deal with Chytil is business, not personal, well, yeah. And part of a well-run business is treating your employees with decency, which I imagine the Rangers will do one way or the other. Drury has read Upton Sinclair. Dolan, not sure.
Chytil was playing well before the injury and earned his current contract
if he remains hurt don’t we get LTIR cap relief?
while faceoff ability can be over blown (see people upset that Wennberg was traded for with his FO% being in the 40s) I think there are times when faceoff success can be very important depending on time of game and location of draw
it is no coincidence our best line has one of the leagues top faceoff guys out there. Including PP posession instead of instant clear that kills 20+ seconds every time. Or vice versa on PK. We are tops in both of those as well with the help of trocheck faceoff prowess
when we were horrible at faceoffs every year it definitely was a weakness that hurt us at inopportune times.
In addition. Because Trocheck can be your deployed faceoff guy, it makes it much more tenable to roster a couple centers who stink at faceoffs but are good at other things
you don’t need 4 awesome faceoff guys
‘I’d do it this way.’ ’I’d do it that way.’ The I’ds of March.
If you’re stupid enough not to cheat on faceoffs, you ain’t trying.
Nasher never got enough credit for his ability to swoop-in and grab the puck after a faceoff.
Upton Sinclair? Is he the guy who owned all those old gas stations?
Hockey gurus and intellectuals have a million insights and opinions. I still, at the end, listen for the home arena’s loudness meter to judge a player’s true standing and value.
Roof-it-Rick had elite skill, just not when it counted most.
Lies, damn lies and statistics. As mentioned way back when (yesterday), the NHL does a cr@p job tracking secondary statistics like, wait for it…give aways!
Plus-minus is descriptive, not prescriptive. Folks discount it’s relevance due to a multitude of other variables (line mates, matchups, team D/goalie performance) that could influence the stat on a game by game basis but over the course of a season or seasons, the numbers reflect ES performance.
does possession drive team performance? How does a player possess the puck? successfully making/receiving passes, wall battles, turnovers/giveaways, takeaways and…face offs. How much does a faceoff influence overall possession is contextualized to each game situation, but all things being equal, a team winning offensive zones face offs will have a greater number of scoring opportunities than when losing the draw. A team winning defensive draws will have a better opportunity to move the puck out of the zone.
will just have to see if Drury buys out Chytil
Again, FO% not statistically relevant, no significant correlation with winning %, spread evenly through the standings. You don’t want to stink at it as a team, just as you don’t want to stink at any other aspect of the game, but there are way too many possession variables for that one turnover/maintain event to make much of a difference.
+/- is a dinosaur with good reason. Goodrow, for example, is a -8 on an excellent, high +/- team. He gets it in the neck over at the Athletic (that readership’s Miller) but he’s a defensive forward who is not here to produce points. Is he no longer valuable, or does his D, his PK, his leaving part of his jaw on the ice and playing two games later count for anything?
If you’re not a hitter in the NHL, you’re a hitee and if so, it’s just a matter of time b4 you are injured, half a player or semi-irrelevant.
The way I understand it, if Chytil retires, then he forfeits his salary and would come of the cap (i.e. the favor Naslund did for NYR way back when). Otherwise, he is LTIR like this season and they can exceed the cap up to his his.
The worst case (for the organization) is what’s stated above: that he comes back as a fringe player taking up cap space and probably need to use assets to acquire an insurance player even if he remains healthy.
Goodrow’s a warrior.
Hitting is a bit overrated too because you’re usually (always) only hitting someone when you don’t have the puck. That said, you’re not always going to have it, so I guess it’s good to hit hard when you do.
yes Cc, the worrying/hate over Chytil at this stage in the season is pretty asinine!
And an oft injured Hertl for another 6 years not what this team needs. Say good on SJ for getting out of that contract while they could
My favorite hits are the ones where you take a hit to make a play. And nothing wrong at all with hitting if you don’t take yourself *out* of the play, that you make sure you have support when you commit to one and finish it. Hitting to deliberately send your opponent to the locker room I have no time for, though those will always be fan favorites for many. Did you see that? He WRECKED that guy!
Hertl has played 80+ 3xs, and 70+ 3xs out of 11 seasons. He played every game in the second Covid year, and 50 in the Covid year. Oft injured?
My take on hitting stats has nothing to do with how often you control or don’t control the puck or total hits per game comparisons. When I see a good check that affects play, intimidates, and is FINISHED, that’s a hit. Everything else credited as a ‘hit’ is fluff stat padding.
Pete, with all due respect, take your ubiquitous on-going ‘hate’ accusations and ad-hominem arrogance and find a new approach. This is hockey, not Sociology 101.
one boxer to another “yo azz in 9”
cheadle is a first ballot HoF’er
barkley to eagles
gotta hate when a guy goes to divisional rival
and i;m not even a giants fan. sort of maybe a jets fan but that’s mostly in the past
Hertl will be oft injured from now on..hes a Knight….probably before deadline …for LTIR purposes
Alex, I grew up a jets fan myself but now I don’t have any feelings one way or the other regarding the jets.
When you don’t have the puck a good hits should result in gaining puck position. Along with a… “Rrmember me.”
When you’re a Jet, you’re a Jet all the way…
From your first cigarette ’til your last dyin’ day…
When you’re a Jet, when the spit hits the fan,
You got brothers around; you’re a family man…
Anson Carter’s tuxedo and white sneakers, along with Anson himself, headed to the Hall of Fame.
Foxyclean is sick and will be a game time decision. Hate to be down top 2 defenders vs the pesky Devils
Looking at the rangers schedule rest of the year it’s going to be tough holding onto the division lead. I can definitely see the rangers play the islanders in the 1st round. Ranger fan nightmare and worse case senario. Islander fans stanely cup.
hate and oft injured both admitted exaggerations on my part, mea culpa!
But will stick to my guns that Hertl ages 30-36 not what this core needs or a smart use of cap space and that seems silly to see so much handwringing about flaws in Chytil’s game given his unfortunate status (which can’t change until the offseason at the earliest) on the doorstep of a playoff push.
And if he truly cannot comeback for health reasons then we can simply LTIR him or just trade his contract to a cap floor team like many others have done previously and with much bigger cap hits
norm said take a hit
I remember in January when we werent making the playoffs
Drury only has a choice on a Chytil buyout if he is cleared health wise before or during the buyout window. Can’t buyout injured players
You all missed a very enjoyable afternoon of snowboarding. Storm total is 23″ at the summit, 18″ in the yard, though the first 9 were kinda heavy wet stuff, good for the base. Windy as f though.
Beezle
What’s sonwboarding?
Minx you need to expand your horizons beyond shuffleboard and golf! 😉
Can’t see NHLPA not fighting a buyout this offseason as hard to see an objective way to say Chytil would be fully healthy at that time
Back in my halcyon days, e3, I tried taking a hit and making a play. She turned me down like a bedspread.
Beezle
I don’t do shuffleboard, but I encourage others to give it a try
NY Rangers – worst First place team according to its ‘fans’
Cheetlejuice convo because why?
He and Kakko will be last of the Euro first rounders for a while.
in other news, 25yo Lias (ready for the pros) Anderson is having a good year for AHL Laval Rockets
Rangers will need at least 5 goals to pull off a victory tonight.
we’ve all been through that norm….never give up. Never surrender…
will Kaapo Kakko finish against Kakko Khokanin?
It all started innocently enough
koolio, Wen burger, and Cockoh will have a huge night.
Battle of the Kaapos tonight. expect Kahkonen, who has 6 wins and 23 losses this season with mostly the sharks, to attain Vezina form against our guys
To me, worst case scenario for this season is Isles advancing further than the Rangers, especially if they play each other. I freakin HATE the Isles fans and don’t want to hear any of their BS. I am more than a little concerned that the Rangers could lose to them in a 7 game series, since all 7 games would be game seven to the red headed bastard stepchild from UBS arena.
Fox taking skates looks good to go
Going to be tough if they have to play without Fox tonight with Trouba also out. If he is out tonight, I hope he is well enough to play tomorrow.
This coming week will certainly tell us a lot about Rangers readiness to compete come playoff time and may very well determine their playoff matchup for first round.
A couple of wishes for tonight. A win,a goal for Rempe that they count, and Rempe not having to fight. I know it is a dream; but I am an optimist. LGR