Carp’s projected opening night lineup.

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Forwards

Panarin-Zibanejad-Buchnevich
Kreider-Chytil-Kakko
Namestnikov-Andersson-Strome
Lemieux-(Howden or McKegg or Nieves)-Fast
(one of those three centers ends up in Hartford, and I’m guessing it’s Nieves).

Defensemen

Skjei-Trouba
Hajek-Fox
Staal-DeAngelo
Smith or Rykov or Lindgren (two of those in Hartford).

Goalies

Lundqvist
Georgiev

Briefly, he thinks that they may decide to keep all three young Russians in Hartford together to continue what hey started during this summer. That is Kravtsov, Shesterkin, and Rykov.

He thinks they may want to keep Haley in the organization if he is willing to play in Hartford. As I mentioned before, one-way contract should do unless he gets multiple offers to play in the big league from other teams.

The decision between Lindgren and Smith shouldn’t be based on their cap hit. It’s a washout. The decision should be based on what benefits Lindgren more.

He also thinks it’s McKegg over Nieves.

 

 

 

121 responses to “Carp’s projected opening night lineup.”

  1. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Thanks for ilb-ing me, ilb.

  2. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Poor Nieves falling by the Lowe’s wayside due mainly to empty sandpaper shelf.

  3. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    ad-lib ilb.

  4. cregg7 Avatar
    cregg7

    I’ve never been a staal basher. I’m a fan of what Staal meant to our success, but….If this rebuild was serious they’d be sitting him frequently so they can play the likes of Lindgren and Hajek

    He can be there to give respite to a long long season that they very well may hit a wall in. Or the youngsters may need to watch and learn from the press box on occasion. And we all know injuries happen.

    Our young crop of centers and Def can learn this year and be coached up. Will also be the best way to really evaluate if they are good enough for the long haul or will they be surpassed by future top picks

  5. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Good on the Duke kid, but the Jints escaped. Secondary is the pits.

  6. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Staal’s main problem is that he provides 2 million dollars in value for 5.7 + million.

  7. Old Ranger Fan Avatar
    Old Ranger Fan

    Time to temper our expectations to avoid being disappointed. They are still rebuilding and could be in the LaFrenierre sweepstakes at the end of the year.

  8. TYM Avatar

    Too bad Staal makes far too much to be a 7th defenseman. That would be the ideal role for him. Mentor youngsters and play during back to back games. Play Lindgren with Tony D.

  9. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    That Lindgren-DeAngelo pair could be a lot of fun to watch.

  10. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    On this date in hockey history, September 23nd 1972, Team Canada lost game five, the first game of the historic Summit Series played in Moscow. Soviet Union 5, Canada 4. Phil Esposito tripped on a flower stem during a pregame ceremony and gracefully bowed to the crowd with a huge grin for the fans in the first game at Moscow’s Luzhniki Ice Palace.

    Esposito said that when he got up he looked into the stands directly into the eyes of Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev. When the guy next to him laughed, Brezhnev gave him a look that wiped the smile right off his face.

    https://i.ibb.co/7bK9GD1/20190923-092148.jpg

    Vintage hockey.

  11. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    I don’t know how official that line up is but I agree with most but not all of it.

  12. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Anyone know if there are any waiver protection issues this time around?

  13. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    @Coos if not for a) TB choke kicker (5pts missed!) and b) TB defense emulating NYG defense, I’m guessing the spin might be a bit different today. The kid had his moments but guys were pretty wide open. And that last run.. I think anyone from this blog could have run that ball in, nobody within 20 yards.

  14. James G Avatar
    James G

    Opening night lineup is only relevant to what they’ll be when the puck drops on the 3rd.
    By the second period or the 2nd game they could be different.

    I understand that they need to “protect” younger players and allow them to grow but if Chytil was an NHler last season then anything is possible.
    Quite frankly, I think this team stands to be wretched defensively once again as it stands.
    I think Lindgren and perhaps Hajek are both needed on the big squad because they’re capable of actually defending and being strong in their own zone.
    Fox isn’t going to take long to start getting burnt. He’s going to need a partner capable of defending and compensating for his gaffs.

  15. Rob Avatar
    Rob

    I don’t think Eli would have run in that last touchdown but it was such a big hole I’m not really sure

  16. Rob Avatar
    Rob

    I tend to think he would not have

  17. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    But Rob, Eli has always been our little gazelle!

  18. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    James, I don’t think the “real” line up will be solidified (bar injuries) until November. October will still be a month of sorting things out. Also believe that team will improve over the season but that may or may not translate to wins.

  19. Rob Avatar
    Rob

    I watched it again and I’m 90% sure Eli gets sacked instead of running it in for a touchdown

  20. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    The lineup that Carp projects, the one without Kravtsov, is a gutless lineup. Before anybody gets mad at me, I’m not calling Carp gutless. If the Rangers had any guts at all, Kravtsov, Lindgren, and Hajek would all be on the team playing prominent roles. Can’t keep rolling out the deadwood.

  21. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    The Smith decision should not be about the cap. It should be about what’s best for the team going forward. Smith needs to be in Hartford.
    Nieves will be in Hartford.

  22. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Lol, rob said “big hole”

  23. bobbyo2019 Avatar

    don’t see point of keeping Rykov or Lindgren around as 7th Dman and Kravtsov does not look ready yet…a bit lost so far….started slow in Traverse also so maybe he picks it up this week

  24. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    looking forward to the unofficial “bye week” after game 2. Hartford only has 1 game during that week off and it’s the first day (Sunday)

    Cooscoos

    yes Staal not up to his cap hit.

    neither are Henrik, Smith, Girardi (buyout), Names, Strome and next year Shatty (huge buyout although that mirrors what his albatross contract was anyway)

  25. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    agree with BobbyO on 7th d. It should not be a kid with a good future. They need to play.

  26. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Just win, baby. That’s the name of the game no matter who plays and who doesn’t..

  27. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Home Town miscount.

  28. James G Avatar
    James G

    No doubt, Beezle. That’s really my only point- not to put too much stock in the opening night lineup as far as combos and all that.

  29. James G Avatar
    James G

    And I’m with BDL. That’s the safe lineup and blatantly screams “tread water” while hoping to win a few more games because Panarin pops in a few.
    This is a build? You’re really trying to take a big step? Don’t tell me you’re going to hurt the lineup and it’s chances because it’s not a priority over protecting young kids.
    If Staal and Smith are in the lineup every night and Kravtsov is in Hartford so McKegg and Strome can play then it’s about treading water.

  30. James G Avatar
    James G

    And that’s not to say they shouldn’t do what’s right by these players but if they’re capable of playing at the NHL level then they should.
    It was ok to keep Chytil here all year for better or for worse right?

  31. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    I don’t think strome, at what the rangers are paying him, is terrible value but I’d agree on the rest.

  32. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Staal should be the 7th (since the organization seems determined to keep him) and lindgren and Hajek should be in the top 6 on the left.

    Or dump deangelo and go with 4 lefts and 2 rights and have smith or Morrow be 7th.

  33. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Had to write down half of the uniform numbers and put the list next to the TV. Waiting for jersey numbers 109 and 122.

  34. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Love that second line for tomorrow’s game. I actually like the forwards a lot except for a couple bottom 6 wingers.

  35. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    Lol, Wicky. Let me guess: you don’t like Fast and O’Regan?
    And, sorry for the late entry. What did you mean about waivers?

  36. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    They’re going to get their money’s worth out of Haley. I believe if he’s amenable to playing in Hartford at NHL salary and being called up here and there, there should sign him. I doubt he’s going to get any contract with a guarantee he’s playing in the NHL

  37. Alex Avatar
    Alex
  38. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    in that lineup 3rd pair d

    Smith Morrow

  39. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Rykov hurt again.

  40. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    The Tampa Bay Lightning have re-signed forward Brayden Point to a 3-year, $20.25 million contract with an AAV of $6.75 million.

    Point had more goals and more points than Panarin last year but got paid half less than Panarin.

    Thanks, Gorton! lol

  41. James G Avatar
    James G

    Rykov= Europansy

  42. James G Avatar
    James G

    Wick, I like having Strome in the lineup. It was more about Kravtsov not going to Hartford because he’s “too young” or has to acclimate when he’s better than at least 4 forwards Carp anticipated being in the lineup

  43. EvBreadriser Avatar

    How do we get Kreider to sign to a Point-relative contract? If he was a restricted free agent, he’d be lucky to get 5 after that. 🤷‍♂️

  44. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    James,
    You are now seeing what it was I have been saying about Kravtsov. This is pre determined. He going to Hartford. It’s why McKegg was on the ice for 2 plus minutes at the end of the first Jersey game. No amount of Kravtsov playing well will change it. It’s the easy way out, and Quinn will take it.

  45. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    can’t be sent down until deemed healthy though

    Colin Stephenson
    @ColinASteph

    And by the way, for those who wondered, Vinni Lettieri has a lower body issue that is being managed, per DQ. It was not good enough to allow him to practice today, but is not considered a serious problem.

  46. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    There were people wondering about Vinni? 🙂

  47. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    CCCP

    yes because he was listed as injured for team B and can’t be sent down until healthy.

  48. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    BDL, same with Lindgren vs Smith. I understand “playing big minutes in Hartford “, but only to an extent. When do you say a player is ready and will benefit from playing less minutes, in a perhaps smaller role, but against real competition? And participating in real NHL practices?
    I wonder, though. Does Quinn feel some pressure to win more games this year, and does he worry about his job security? That would be bad if he does.

  49. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Ilb
    Fast is one for sure, don’t know much about O’Regan.

    I like fast, I have a fast sweater and also a T-shirt, but he just seems like such a waste at this point with this roster. He stood out a few seasons ago because of his effort vs the “Ef it” of many of the other rangers, but last season and now that is far less of a case, hard pass on him.

  50. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    It’s not about whether I like the player or not, it’s who ends up on the roster that makes it the best one, fast on the roster doesn’t do that.

    I don’t take personal feelings about the player into account.

  51. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Re waivers….last season deangelo would not be able to go to htfd without passing through waivers so the rangers kept him up, any players with waiver issues in this camp?

  52. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Haley was the other, guess there were 3

  53. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    Got it.
    Kravtsov, Kakko, Chytil, Andersson, Howden, Fox, Hajek, Lindgren, Lettieri, Rykov, Shesterkin, Georgiev ( until he plays 17 games in NY) are waiver exempt. I’m not including obvious youngsters, like Keane, Reunanen, Huska etc.

  54. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    per newsday islanders moving 7 more games to Masoleum including both Ranger games

  55. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    Just because someone might start the season in Hartford doesn’t mean they will spend the majority of it there. It may also be easier to move a few guys after a month or so (D’Anger and Fast come to mind).

  56. James G Avatar
    James G

    BDL,
    I get it. big minutes in Hartford make sense for Kravtsov and Lindgren who both look comfortable at the NHL level but Chytil who couldn’t buy himself a clue in his own zone last season was benefiting from NOT being in Hartford?
    I call Shenanigans. To this point I haven’t put too much stock in the concerns you and others have but if this stuff really is “pre determined” then Quinn’s line about spots not being handed out is BS and it’s a slap in the face of fans who have to drop 200+ on a ticket to go sit nose bleed and see their team play.

    They either committed to this thing or they didn’t. Don’t say one thing and do another. I guess we’ll see if your concern is validated. Carp seems to think it is. Then again he thought Andersson was definitely making it last year as did the rest of us.

  57. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Ilb
    Thanks

  58. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    The New York Rangers announced today that the team has reduced its Training Camp roster by five players, as Connor Brickley, Sean Day, Tim Gettinger, Nick Jones, and Dawson Leedahl have all been assigned to Training Camp with the Hartford Wolf Pack of the American Hockey League (AHL).

    The Rangers have 36 players remaining in Training Camp. The roster breakdown is listed below:

    Forwards (20): Lias Andersson, Pavel Buchnevich, Filip Chytil, Phillip Di Giuseppe, Jesper Fast, Steven Fogarty, Micheal Haley, Brett Howden, Kaapo Kakko, Vitali Kravtsov, Chris Kreider, Brendan Lemieux, Vinni Lettieri, Greg McKegg, Vladislav Namestnikov, Boo Nieves, Danny O’Regan, Artemi Panarin, Ryan Strome, Mika Zibanejad

    Defensemen (12): Tony DeAngelo, Adam Fox, Libor Hajek, Ryan Lindgren, Joe Morrow, Tarmo Reunanen, Matthew Robertson, Yegor Rykov, Brady Skjei, Brendan Smith, Marc Staal, Jacob Trouba

    Goaltenders (4): Alexandar Georgiev, Adam Huska, Henrik Lundqvist, Igor Shesterkin

  59. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    20 forwards and 12 d men left…I think it’s 15 forwards and 9 d men where it gets tricky.

  60. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    ILB

    I think injured guys can’t be sent down while injured. But I think this only applies to guys who were in nhl previous year or years (not sure of games played though).

    so it appears that there’s no problem in sending down Day but there might have been a problem with Beleskey (hence he never started camp) and not sure on Lettieri.

    your thoughts?

  61. Rob Avatar
    Rob

    Remember when Stepan scored the last goal at Nassau Coliseum? So much for that

  62. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Wow Hannikainen on waivers from the jackets

  63. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    You’re right, Alex. Only players on the NHL roster are subject to that rule. Beleskey would’ve been a problem if he were injured. That’s why they placed him on non-NHL roster at the beginning of this camp. Day was not NHL roster player. Lettieri is waiver exempt, but he can’t be sent down to Hartford until cleared to play. All this means that he would start the season as a non-roster injured player, his salary wouldn’t count against the cap, but he would be paid NHL salary until cleared to play.

  64. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    12 days before the start of the season is when waiver window opens. Players are going to be flying through that window left and right, so to speak.

  65. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    That’s going to hurt

  66. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Interesting comments by DQ about scoring chances given up and how many are turnovers on the rush vs d coverage in the d zone.

    Clearly, the rangers need less fancy pants high risk guys based on the numbers.

  67. TYM Avatar
    TYM

    Hopefully it is a large window. Marc Staal is a big guy!

  68. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    You were all right when you said something was wrong with him. Let’s hope he’s ok:

    https://nypost.com/2019/09/23/al-trautwig-takes-abrupt-leave-of-absence-from-msg/

  69. cregg7 Avatar
    cregg7

    Poor Al
    Hope he gets well

  70. tommyG Avatar
    tommyG

    There was no doubt in my mind there was something wrong with Al, he aged like 10 years in 1 year and was mumbling his words like he was having a stroke, scary stuff.

  71. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Yeah, he looked not well.

    Best of luck to him

  72. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Yeah Al was definitely not well. Mumbling and shaking. Hope he’s ok.

    In a meantime, have Rosen fill in for Al and have Maloney fill in for Rosen.

  73. Jeffrey Avatar
    Jeffrey

    Best wishes to Al;. he has been a part of Rangers TV for so long he feels like family.

  74. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Troutwig sadly reminiscent of ex-punter Dave Jennings rapid on-air broadcasting deterioration. Just 61, RIP.

  75. Norm Merton Avatar
    Norm Merton

    Late to the football stuff, but as much as I’m a yooj fan of Manning and his excellent career, he can’t do any of what Jones is good at with his speed and his arm. To be determined how his decision-making comes along.

  76. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Only problemo I see for the Duke kid is a propensity to put the ball on the ground.

  77. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Eventually and ironically, Peyton may make more $ doing comedy commercials than he ever did from football. As with Paul Newman and his tomato sauce and salad dressing. More dough there than from his movies… (though he gave it away.)

  78. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    Point had hip surgery this summer. will miss start of season.

  79. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    CCCP

    saw this on twitter

    Gord Miller
    @GMillerTSN

    “Every time someone on TV calls Ukraine “the Ukraine”, I can feel my friends of Ukrainian descent cringing. It drives them nuts.

  80. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Under my plan, any NFL team with 12 or more wins, MUST give at least one of those wins to the New York Jets.
    Nobody needs that many wins!

    Bernie Sanders.

  81. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Alex
    Doesn’t bother me. Not sure where that comes from. First time I actually hear this.

  82. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    CCCP

    i never heard of it either

  83. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Many ‘foreigners’ give themselves away as such by the lack of THE’s in their speech, not the plethora of same.

  84. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Yeah, I still don’t the know when I am the supposed to put the “the” when I the talk or the write.

  85. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    You sound like a native-born Brooklyn thug. That’s a complement. 🙂

  86. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    Good morning, boneheads!
    MacTavish was fired by his KHL team, Lokomotiv Yaroslavl. Again, goes to show that most of the better hockey coaches either never play in the NHL, or watch most of the games from the bench.

  87. cregg7 Avatar
    cregg7

    The dan Rosen preview article projected lineup at the end has Mckegg with no Howden and no Kravstov

  88. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    I was aiming for that, Coos.

  89. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Howden do you not know that McBeer will make you Krapsoft?

  90. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    ‘I’m back in USSR
    You don’t know how lucky you are, boy
    Back in US, back in US
    Back in USSR

    Ukraine girls really knock me out
    They leave west behind
    And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
    Georgia’s always on
    My my my my my my my my my mind…’

  91. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    ‘Wish they all could be California girls…’

  92. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Cali girls are pretty damn hot… and south girls, too. Thick and juicy 😀

    LGR!

  93. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Coos
    Not any more 😎

  94. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    James

    Are you planning on setting up draft time in your yahoo league? Or are you moving it to the ESPN?

  95. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    Also in the BDL post article was the comments about the Don still needing to make the roster. Fan boys will be on fire over that.

    Hope Al Teeth is gets the care he needs and makes a speedy recovery.

  96. Old Ranger Fan Avatar
    Old Ranger Fan

    Al Trautwig’s appearance made me think of when Ted Kennedy and John McCain suddenly took ill. Hopefully it’s nothing like that and we see him back on the Chase Bridge soon..

  97. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Also, in bonehead hockey league still no draft time.

  98. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    James
    Is the ESPN league set up yet?

  99. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    AV looks like he has aged a decade.

  100. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Coos

    That’s what happens when your hot girlfriend (NYC) dumps you and later some beat up broad lets you crash on her couch (Philly).

  101. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    AV still Avoiding Victory!

  102. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    AV’s crashing on the Southpark bus driver’s couch

  103. James G Avatar
    James G

    https://fantasy.espn.com/hockey/league/join?leagueId=2700397&inviteId=0c421cb3-127a-4596-b2ee-c84004d87a66

    If anyone is interested in an espn league this year sign up here.
    This in no way is to deter from our annual Yahoo league. Some just prefer ESPN (like me)

  104. James G Avatar
    James G

    Is Rykov still in the hot tub?

  105. cregg7 Avatar
    cregg7

    I thought Russians were supposed to be tough?

  106. James G Avatar
    James G

    That’s the old NHL, Cregg.

  107. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    DiGusepe on waivers.

  108. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Faulk being held out

  109. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    James

    I tried to join your ESPN league from my phone and something went wrong. Can you delete my team? It’s Soviet wall one. I’ll join properly when i get home. Thanks

  110. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    I miss DiGusepe 🙁

  111. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    I Miss In the Morning

  112. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    What the faulks falking wrong with Faulk?

  113. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    There goes Faulk to the blues

  114. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    Coos broke the blog

  115. James G Avatar
    James G

    Will do C3.

  116. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Is Kreider still a Ranger?

  117. Wicky Avatar
    Wicky

    St Pete broke the blog

  118. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Uh oh, Chytil fans better not read Brooks.

  119. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001
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