Flip is a scoring forward, needs to be on wing so he has more of those chances to convert. These were scorer’s goals, all scored while he was shooting with nobody around him. He has 31 Even Strength assists in 186 games, can’t win faceoffs and is lost in dzone, has not shown to be an nhl center yet. Maybe he turns the corner with Gallant. I argue to make him a winger to leverage his strengths and get some 2way centers in here to allow him and the other wingers to flourish
cregg7
My not so humble brag.
After first preseason game I said tinordi looked better than Nemeth.
Many of the brunch crowd continued their preconceived tinordi hate
Now. After a full pre season it’s nice to feel vindicated that maybe he’s not just a face puncher. But a 29 yo in his prime that is big and mobile
Zero fights and one of our more steady defenders with some decent timing on pinching in the offensive zone and getting it out of our defensive zone
#vindication phase 1
St Pete Eli
SN
You have a really good point, but it’s easier said than done. You’re going to need to give one or two of those wingers to find that center. Krakko? Lafreniere? Kravtsov? Chytil?
Bdl
Can’t say enough about the way Rooney competes. Makes it tough for Barron, who in my opinion is an NHL player right now.
Bdl
Kakko has been very impressive. The confidence that the 4 youths played with last night was very encouraging.
Admiral Akbar
Chyt-Maps goals were all high skill plays—and were made through traffic. I really like him with Goodrow (who can spell Chytil and take a faceoff). Kravtsov adds some more high end skill to what I’d consider to be a dangerous third line.
Kaako, Lafreniere, Blais, Strome all enjoyable to watch and we’re engaged.
Agree 100% on Tinordi, cregg7 — the guy just makes small plays that are effective. It was interesting to note he was less involved in the post-whistle fireworks last night than Nemeth… a team could do worse with Tinordi/Nemeth as your 6/7 defensemen. And when you’ve got Jones, Schneider, et al waiting in the wings, there is pressure to perform.
Trouba looked fine (altho I’d rather see Kreider as captain), as did Fox, and even Miller was ok. Lindgren was involved at both ends of the ice — especially deft at getting his shots on net.
Bdl
They are going to need Tinordi. I’m not quite sold that Nils is going to hold up when the intensity of the regular season amps up. Some big rugged teams in the conference.
Admiral Akbar
With regards to the Fishies — they definitely looked a bit smug, particularly Lee.
Islanders played like a team that is used to winning and expects to win.
Admiral Akbar
Bdl —
Funny I was wondering what the outcome of this game would have been if Nils (and even Zibanejad) had been playing.
Tinordi and Nemeth was nice to have together… which is why I don’t think we’ll see Nils and Jones together in the lineup as regulars (barring injury to others)
Bdl
AA,
It wouldn’t be shocking if the Nemeth, Tinordi pair is together opening night.
SN
BDL – 1000% of Joe Willie and Tinordi as a pair, both looked impressive. Lindgren has not looked good all camp, hope he is just trying to keep away from any stitches until regular season.
SN
Chytil first two goals were high skill lasers, 1 on the power play, didn’t see the last of in OT on a 4 on 3. They were not high traffic plays in front. Kids has great hands and gets after it on the forecheck with his speed. Great atTributes for a winger, square peg in round hole at center. Best thing that could have happened for his trade value was last nights game.
Drury needs a plan for the center position as the wings have a lot of talent. Until some clarity arrives, team will be a work in progress.
SN
The hit by Mayfield on Stromeo was a dirty play. Stromeo watching puck and Mayfield literally hits Stromeo when he is tracking the puck carrier in the middle of the zone and then no penalty. Wtf??
Would be a different sport if you could hit defenders while they try to cover the puck carrier..
St Pete Eli
Admiral
Totally agree with your 8:14 post. They are smug stinking fish. I enjoyed seeing Bar-Zuul in the box on the GWG?
St Pete Eli
Wonder if what The, DJ, and Bread are thinking after the kids performance against the gods of the east?
St Pete Eli
Cross out that if on my last post please.
Admiral Akbar
SN —
I thought Chytil’s shots were made with a man on him or at least close-in. I don’t know if you wanna call that traffic, but he definitely wasn’t wide open on the perimeter. Either way, it’s something we want to see a lot more of…
And it was amazing to see Chytil, Lafreniere, and Kaako in OT, much less a power play, for an extended and game-tilting shift. Things are different post Dairy Queen.
Admiral Akbar
St Pete —
It’s gonna be fun this season as the league begins to go hunting for big game Fish…
Fishsticks can’t hide as “underdogs” anymore.
Admiral Akbar
I’m sorry that Mayfield/Strome thing was avoidable. Fishsticks are dirty—and SMUG.
CraigWeather
Last night is the way we need to play if we’re going to have success!
It was a simple “north-south” game with effective special teams.
There can be no floaters…. no passengers.
DJ, Bread and THE Kreider are literally 3 of our top 6… So, if they’re floating around, they not only set an example for the rest of the team, but they take up valuable minutes. I think a view from the press box was just what they needed, although they should know what it takes to win at this stage.
tommyG
It’s the same old, same old with these NHL refs, fugging incompetent. I turned the game off when Kratsov tried to go around a islander defender and was literally tackled, no call, 10 seconds later idiot ref calls penalty on Fox because he reach out and touch an islander’ player’s glove.
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
Chytil last night was the Chytil we have been waiting for. If he can play with that intensity during the regular season this will be very enjoyable to watch. It was especially gratifying watching him mix it up in scrums to get the puck.
SN
Craig – they were all held out for an Eichel trade so you might get your wish
CraigWeather
SN,
Bahahahahahahahahahaha (pauses to catch breath) ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Old Ranger Fan
That would be quite a haul for the Sabres and the Ranger Twitterverse would explode. Great effort without the big guns (other than Fox) last night. Giving up 4 was the only negative. Lindgren has been shaky in the exhibition games. He needs to be better when they count. Tinordi looks like a 3rd pair D which I wasn’t sure about. Not sure what they do about Hayek now other than say good bye. Can’t trade him. Teams will just wait for him to go on waivers. If Strome is good to go they should be ready for Wednesday.
Old Ranger Fan
Just watched the Strome collision GIF in Carp’s article. That was interference. Mayfield set a moving pick for Clutterbuck to pick up a loose puck. Legal in lacrosse but not in hockey. There is no way the low ref in the corner didn’t see it, but, he decided to play on.
SN
ORF – textbook interference- Mayfield was looking right at Strome, no accident. It’s almost as if Joe’s Miss-a-plenty goes out of his way to give every opponent the benefit of the doubt vs Rangers.
they do not allow that in lax anymore but back in the day ‘Man-Ball’ had some nasty collisions. Unfortunately lax is a very tame sport compared to days of yore.
cregg7
Great chatter boys.
Let’s go!!!!
Really hope strome and Reaves are healthy. Other than that, we got out of the pre season what we needed. Can you believe their meaningless record was 4-2. After the first game I thought it would be 1-5 if they were lucky.
Old Ranger Fan
I haven’t officiated LAX for the last 15 years but man-ball used to be legal. I never understood why picks had to be stationary if you had possession but not on a loose balls. Glad man-ball isn’t legal anymore. All you could do was call unnecessary roughness on the really bad ones and get in a argument with the coach.
I don’t think Mayfield meant to hurt Strome-just get in his way. But the rules should be enforced.
bobbyo2019
Tinordi is Reaves insurance …looks fine on bottom pair
tommyG
Apparently Strome hurt his wrist but Gallant said he doesn’t think it’s serious, time will tell.
St Pete Eli
Let’s hope our yoots are better than some of us think. They held their own last night and the azzlanders knew it.
SN
The yutes all look like they are ready take the next step relative to their individual skill sets but the preseason was as much about the new guys and at first blush they are exactly would this roster needed; bottom 6, bottom pair depth, physicality and capable hockey players.
Favorite play from last nights game was during a scrum after Pullock was being assessed a minor, he was trying to draw someone off with him; Blais grabbed him from behind giving him a nasty face wash while bending his head/neck backwards. Rarely has NYR been on the giving, rather than receiving end, of those little plays that happen all game long.
Bdl
Mika signed. 8×8.5. I’m no Mika fan, but this isn’t a bad deal.
Will be good for our panerin window and top centers don’t grow on trees
Hope the cap goes up
ilb2001
LB said it. A year or two longer than they’d like, but $8.5 is more than reasonable number. I’d like to see the structure.
SN
Curious if Drury was waiting on Gallant’s assessment of Mika from camp.
.
Stromeo swan song?
ilb2001
Another thing. Drury is no Gorton. He didn’t want to start this season with Zibanejad not signed. And with Eichel’s name in the background.
cregg7
Id keep strome for 5.75 -6
Top 6 center. Seems to do a bit of everything. Great comraderi.
But I don’t have a handle on the cap crunch like others do.
Maybe bridge fox till the cap goes up?
tommyG
I wonder if Mika has a no trade clause and if so, when does it kick in.
SN
Craig / agree on Stromeo. Fox is going to get paid big dollars; not sure if those players are getting bridged if you look at the other deals handed out to young D
CCCP
But but but Mika wants 100 million a year!
CCCP
He took a hometown discount in his last deal and in this deal as well. But he doesn’t engage in the corners much! Waaaweee 🙂
ilb2001
TommyG- he has full NMC now, I’m sure it’s been extended for at least 5-6 years on his new contract.
Heave Ho!
Great to have Zibanejad signed before it becomes a distraction during the season. No Eichel eliminates that distraction as well. My only question right now is how good will our goaltending be?
ilb2001
My guess is he would get 7×10 in July easily. So he left a couple of millions on the table, but gained a year on his contract.
ilb2001
And yeah, no Eichel. I can drink to that tonight.
cooscoos
The Persian Version pockets $68 million. Off in search of original Elvis vinyl and a signed Buddy Holly Stratocaster.
CraigWeather
I have mixed emotions on this… 8.5 is reasonable… 8 years… well, thats a long time. Also, while I appreciate his regular season production… I’m quite concerned with his disappearing act in the bubble/when we play heavier teams and time/space shrink where you HAVE to get your nose dirty. I just don’t want to be in another position where this rebuild takes us to “very good” but not good enough like 2011-2017.
cooscoos
Zib not signed to get his nose dirty. I think we finally have a GM who understands that’s someone else’s job.
CCCP
Now that Mika is signed, can we talk about the elephant in the room? Jacob Troobuh? He is not so very good.
cooscoos
No one ever noticed that Chytil likes big European ice and three on three? He craves room and the NHL ain’t got some, especially in the second season. Package him at his apex.
Jpp2.0
I think it’s safe to say Nemeth tinordi will be the 3rd pair for Washington
Lundkvist gets the home opener the next night
cooscoos
Give Troobs a chance with a reliable partner for once before sending him to the glue factory.
tommyG
I can definitely toast to not getting Eichel. That would have been a disaster not to mention giving up very good assets.
Jpp2.0
If the deal was gonna happen, this is about as good an AAV as was realistically possible.
That’s a huge commitment to him. I hope it works out for everyone.
tommyG
IMO it won’t matter who Trouba’s partner is because Trouba is not a good skater and as soon as he gets pressured he turns the puck over every time. That was another Gorton disaster.
cooscoos
Tinordi has shown nothing but hope and promise for ten + years and he’s had substance problemos. He looks useful this Fall. Illusion? We’ll see. I root for him.
cooscoos
Joba Chamberlain overdue for a big year.
ilb2001
Gotta love the media and some fans who are up in arms:”Oh, my gosh! What are we going to do now? How are we going to sign Kakko and Lafrenière after they also give Fox his $9M contact?”
Yeah, let’s not try to dress up the best possible lineup tomorrow because we are worried about salary cap in 2-3 years.
TYM
Interesting Hollywood-like production by the Rangers. Puff piece with teammates singing his praises between periods last night and announce the big extension the next morning.
Jpp2.0
To be honest. He didn’t give much of a discount off his market ask.
7yr 10m. $70m.
8×8.5 68m.
And drury paid it. I dunno I hope it works out. Our success is now directly tied to Mika. That’s just the way it is now. Our entire rebuild will be tied to this decision. All these years of dealing with the losing and seasons with no expectations. A unique chance and situation in rangers history: and it’s tied to Mika being a number 1 guy capable of driving through 4 rounds of the playoffs.
That’s the part that concerns me. That’s he’s not just one of the guys like even a Panarin can be on the wing. He needs to be our number 1 center going up against the best centers in the world for the biggest prize.
I really don’t like that premise and reality as a 32 year long ranger fan. That this whole decade maybe even 15 years of accumulating developing and going for it. Will no matter what other guys do, always bank on what Mika does.
This whole rebuild was carefree until today. Now there’s always gonna be some built in concern that won’t be alleviated until we actually break through and win one. At least that’s how I feel about it
Not crazy about term but at least Eichel talk goes away
cooscoos
Which Einstein, in-the-know big name hockey Journalist or Blogger predicted the imminent $8.5? Charlatans posing as Nostradamus.
ilb2001
Quasimodo predicted that.
SN
Blind Squirrels claiming credit
cooscoos
When I first saw Quasimodo in person, I knew his face rang a bell.
cooscoos
Still like a healthy Eichel. How could you not?
Pete
i hear what you are saying to an extent Ilb, and don’t get me wrong i’m fine with this deal overall, but it’s this offseason is when they have to sign Fox, Kakko, kravtsov and strome or his replacement.
Even with this being a slightly below market deal, think Strome almost has to be gone now for cap reasons. They perhaps could still squeeze him in and get everyone else locked up, but it would be awfully right and they’d have very little wiggle room if they did (with Laf needing a new deal the year after) and they’d be susceptible to an offersheet for sure on kakko this year or Laf next year
And Jpp, definitely not without risk on this one, but the reality of Gorton never developing an in-house alternative
Jpp2.0
All that aside.
He’s an 8.5m player. I think 8.5 is spot on for his value.
I hope it works out and Mika goes down as the best center in rangers history.
Jpp2.0
It’s not gortons fault the rangers moved up by winning the lottery.
Before moving up for Kakko the rangers were gonna take zegras
And if they didn’t move up and get laffy they would have taken lundell in their original position.
Us winning the draft lottos is the real reason we don’t have a blue chip young center and our rebuild produced a lot of top end talent on the wings
tomk19
If this deal means Strome is gone, who’s replacing Strome? How much less are we paying our 2c than what Strome will get? I was really down on Strome after the bubble debacle and when he showed up (I believe) out of shape at the start of last season. I wish he were a bit stronger and a little better defensively, but he’s won me over.
The truth is that if Zibanajad is our 1c, a grittier, more defensive 2c would be ideal. The problem is that there is such a shortage of top 6 centers out there. I think they could wind up extending Strome too.
TYM
The Bromance between Kreider and Mika will continue. As others have stated, this appears to be staged so as to name Mika the captain. Forget about finding another captain like Messier. I was in Colorado during their glory years and Joe Sakic was the captain. Put up points in bunches but was a quiet leader. No reason why Mika cannot be the same.
JPP, get it on those kakko/Laf picks, but can’t ignore the Lias debacle. Multiple other centers went in that draft and may well have been other centers we overlooked in other drafts (outside of kakko/Laf picks), which may only be apparent in a couple years.
Old Ranger Fan
Drury snuck this out on a Sunday morning. He was under the radar. No mid season drama.
cregg7
Maybe he will be less timid with the contract done.
Of course I don’t want him to get hurt doing something silly. But one wonders if heading into contract year human nature would be protect thyself and your potential paycheck.
Now he has security for the rest of his career.
I see good things ahead for him for at least the next 4 or 5 years
Hope he stays healthy.
cregg7
Maybe Barron is a 2C
Need to keep developing kids that can play for cheap on a cap world
I don’t think Kaako has done anything g to deserve a huge raise year except draft pedigree
If he breaks out this year, then we may have a bigger crunch
St Pete Eli
I know I have mentioned this before but I believe the ESPN deal will certainly aid in raising the salary cap.
CCCP
ESPN deal + getting rid of Troobuh. We should be good. 😀
Eddie J
“Zib not signed to get his nose dirty. I think we finally have a GM who understands that’s someone else’s job.”
I agree, Coos. Now, if we could only convince our fellow boneheads of this.
Alex
As someone said above we are very much in danger of an offer sheet next year or one beyond
Darn flat cap
Pete
Alex, only if they let it get to that, which is why they really shouldn’t be locking up strome longterm. It was almost always gonna be the case they were going to pay one top 6 money, but in this case he came in at $1.5m/yr less than Eichel.
Remember the player has to sign the offer sheet and I have seen nothing thus far to suggest Fox or Laf would want to sign an offersheet that would put the rangers in a terrible situation. If Kakko has a truly monster year this season, it’s not impossible someone gives him a big offer, but again not a sure thing by any means a team would do so or he would sign it.
cregg7
I think after the Toronto and carolina feud there will be much less chance of any offer sheet for fear of retribution and or cap entanglement
CCCP
TRIVIA TIME!
Who was the first non-North American to be selected first overall in an NHL Entry Draft?
Pavel Bure
Roman Hamrlik
Jari Kurri
Owen Nolan
Mats Sundin
cregg7
Hmmm
Nolan?
cregg7
When does roster trimming have to be completed by?
CCCP
Nolan is incorrect
tommyG
Roman Hamrlik
CCCP
Hamrlik is incorrect
kapper57
Mats Sundin by the Quebec Nordiques.
CCCP
“Mats Sundin by the Quebec Nordiques.”
Long time lurker, barely poster is correct. It is Mats Sundin.
ilb2001
Larry Brooks’ article from yesterday:
“I don’t think there is any question that the Rangers and general manager Chris Drury would prefer to extend Zibanejad than trade for Eichel. It is not only the risk involved in trading for an athlete who would undergo disk replacement surgery that is unprecedented for an NHL player. It is not only the cost in assets of the package going back to Buffalo. It is more so about the hierarchy’s belief that Zibanejad is a better player at this stage than Eichel.“
kapper57
You are right about me being a long time lurker! I guess you have our IP address history. I just never felt like setting up a WordPress account until recently.
cooscoos
Brooksie logical. No mind-blowing info from the mountain there.
cooscoos
Obvious that Miller has been told to be more physical. He has been, but it’s not his nature
ilb2001
Two PP goals from Chytil playing bumper position. Has he ever been used in that position before?
Bdl
Curious that Hajek was not waived today. Rosters have to be set by tomorrow, correct? Could they actually send Nils and Barron down and call it a day?
Bdl
I see a lot of negative reaction to the Zibanejad contract. Which just shows to go ya, fans hate contracts.
SN
I just read NO NMC or NTC included in deal. Is that verified?
SN
In a hard cap, fans become accountants. Really sucks. Bring in the luxury tax, most of these owners will take the cash over spending more to win.
cooscoos
My wife has a No Move Contract.
SN
My guess is injury status is impacting roster moves or Drury putting feelers out for Selma
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
My 2 takes on tadays Mika deal.
1) No more Eichel trade nonsense.
2) Wondering now if Mika can now finally afford a haircut or will he perpetually be known as Shaggy?
Jpp2.0
This wasn’t smart of toney. He just can’t be doing that crap.
Announcers singing his praise and he throws a punch.
It was his own guy who came in at the end to move the pile forward
Bdl
Interestingly, the Rangers still have the cap space to trade for eichel.
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
Bdl …..pleeeeeassse stop….no more Eichel.
SN
Chytil, Jones, #1 pick – let’s make a run this season
richinhagerstownbywayofbrooklyn
SN….if that is for Eichel….the only thing we are making a run for is the dumpster. The guy is damaged goods. Way too risky.
bud gimpe
Capfriendly has Mika’s new deal with an NMC until the deadline of the final year. Ouch?
Gravy
NMC until the last year.
SN
Well, DJ Banana Stand is setting up residency at MSG for a long stretch. May he hoist the Cup as a Ranger!
CCCP
I bet Sabres would love to have a experienced dman… Troobuh would look great in their uniform.
Troobuh Chytil 1st for Eichel
SN
A top 6 center tandem of Eichel-Mika for the next 6 years is the best alternative for Cup Contention. If Dreary gives up redundant players, only losing trade assets.
If Eichel has a career ending injury – LITR is an option, paying him money (insurance?) with no cap hit
G Men had one of the worse days in history today. Lose to Cowboys and lose Jones and Barkley as well.
ilb2001
Carp with a new article, post updated.
Old Ranger Fan
Carp likes the Mika deal.
CCCP
Gravy
I’d like if the NMC was only for around the first five years. Probably the trade off for the lower AAV.
CCCP
How to save money in NYC:
1. Work 24/7
2. Don’t go nowhere [Nobody let’s me anywhere anymore anyway since I am not vaccinated for my own safety;)]
3. Don’t eat
4. Don’t sleep
5. Don’t breath
St Pete Eli
C3
Sounds like a plan?
St Pete Eli
SN 8:39
Kravtsov back to Russia?
CraigWeather
Here’s hoping Sam retires soon…..
Not sure how many times over the next 8 years I can hear his phlegm-filled mouth yell “Mika Zibanejad!!”
Bdl
Going to be an interesting day in Rangers land. Still have a minimum 2 cuts to make, and 3 guys who would have to clear waivers to be sent down. Being that the Rangers did not waive any of them yesterday, does that put them on the team? If so, would they really send Nils down? Imagine the reaction to that.
Bdl
Craig, and others.
Back about 10 years or so, I met Sam Rosen. Spoke with him many times (half dozen or more) over the course of two summers. Sam is one of the nicest, humble, most genuine human beings I have ever met. So while I don’t disagree that his game has fallen off, it bothers me when he gets criticized for it.
Pete
BDL, today is the day they need to cut roster down, but if Strome or Reaves need to go on short-term IR they can delay the decision on some combo of Barron, Hunt and Goat. I think they carry Tinordi and Hajek as extras until Drury can make a deal.
Sure Sam is a sweetheart, but he and Joe are painful to listen to. Shame we didn’t give Kenny the gig
tommyG
There is always ways you can clear cap space in 2 years, could buy out Trouba if you can’t trade him, same goes for Kreider.
Bdl
I will never understand a fans need to break up a team so quickly. The Rangers have their veteran core under contract for the foreseeable future, and their young core under their control for the foreseeable future. They are getting ready to contend. What the heck is the rush to trade this guy, and buyout that guy?
ilb2001
Good morning, boneheads!
Was just going to say the IR may make their decision easier. But still, unless both Strome and Reaves are placed on IR, at least one player needs to be cut.
ilb2001
BDL, I don’t understand that either. Especially when casual fans and some writers without cap knowledge think they know better than people who do this for living.
ilb2001
It took a lot to convince Mika’s camp
to sign a $8.5M AAV contract, it seems. It’s fully buyout protected with $60M out of $68M paid in bonuses. He also has a full NMC until 7 days prior to deadline in his last contract year. Then it changes to 21 team no trade list.
Bdl
Ilb,
Am I correct that a player waived needs 24 hrs to clear or be claimed, and until then is considered a roster player? If that is correct, and nobody goes to IR, then Nils and Barron are going to Hartford.
tommyG
Take it easy guys, I’m not advocating to do anything, just saying there are always options out there if the rangers need to free up cap space in a few years when the pups would need new contracts.
ilb2001
I also find it interesting that teams are starting to give front loaded contracts again. Mika’s is. It’s not as front loaded as it used to be because of the new variability rules, but still. His contract starts in 2022, so his escrow will be capped at 10% that year and 6% after. And my guess is because of this new TV contract the league isn’t really worried about players falling too far behind in what they owe to the owners by the end of this CBA.
ilb2001
TommyG- sorry, now I see it sounded like we were attacking you. We did not mean to.
ilb2001
BDL-yes, you are right.
Bdl
You were not being singled out Tommy. Many fans have the same exact thought as you. I don’t agree with it, but that doesn’t make you wrong, or your opinion a bad one.
Bdl
Ilb,
Then that means a minor trade is coming, or somebody is going to IR, or Nils and Barron are Hartford bound.
St Pete Eli
I believe the 3rd pair D is set 5,6,7, with Nemeth, Lundkvist, and Tinordi? Not in any particular order. Something will have to be done with Hajek of course.
cregg7
BdL. Nice thoughts on Sam. I still love him.
The booth would be so much better if they would replace Michaletti with say…. Valiquette or Dave Maloney
Imagine Richter wanted to sit shotgun there?! That would be awesome
ilb2001
Or two minor trades. I’m not convinced Gauthier is in their long term plans despite him having a decent camp. He, along with Hajek, just keep falling more and more behind all these new young guys.
tommyG
ILB, I agree with you 100%. I don’t get paid the big bucks to figure out the cap situation and have no idea about it. I was just saying there are always options when the time comes. I not concerned, Drury will handle it when the time comes.
cregg7
I don’t think we need to concern ourselves with hajek
If he’s claimed…so what
I also don’t think it would be bad for Nils to get a couple months in the AHL and bring him along slowly which could pay dividends later this season
Let him work out some kinks and get used to the smaller rinks down there
If we didn’t have other options I’d be fine keeping him. But there really is no rush
tommyG
Sam Rosen will go when Sam Rosen decides to go. If people don’t like Sam’s announcing, there are other alternatives like shut the TV sound off and listen to it on the radio.
Bdl
Gauthier was give a big opportunity by Gallant. He did nothing with it. Hajek was the only D man to not play in one of the last two preseason games.
cregg7
Beginning to agree with the goat boy Rico fata comparison
Tantalizing skating
Nothing to show for it
cregg7
“Coach, why not try Gautier on the power play to maybe springboard his confidence and scoring?”
Torts replies “cause he stinks”
cregg7
Also agreeing that Gorton not being here there is much less pressure to care about the optics of the mcdonagh trade
With Hajek And Quinn’s son howden
Nice kids.
Hajek has good wheels and you can see why scouts like him. But was only really good his first 5 games or so till that shoulder injury. Then he became forgettable.
Meanwhile, the jettison of Ryan Graves still looms large as one of Gortons memorable fails.
TYM
I have had the same experience over the years with Sam Rosen. I have run into him in NY and also when the Rangers were in Anaheim. He could not be a nicer, more humble fellow. And he loves the franchise and the fans. It is tough watching him lately as he has slowed down a bit, but he won’t be going anywhere until he himself decides to.
Jpp2.0
I kinda feel likes there’s nothing to talk about anymore. Only thing there is to do is watch the games and observe on them.
You gotta think drury is hoping internal candidates secure their hoped upon roles and the only roster building talk is what extensions look like
A surprise trade for young center who can grow into a 200 foot two way 2C maybe.
Suddenly what they want to do and decide to do with strome is the biggest question. Undoubtedly has something special with Panarin but re-signing him really put drury in a position where he has to bridge guys he should probably lock up long term if he can (Kakko)
And as long as strome is on the roster will the coach ever separate him from panarin. And how do you give chytil that chance wouldn’t doing that.
The d pairings and the 6-7 guys will sort itself out by play. So there are no questions there right now in my mind.
What happens with strome and chytil is the biggest question looming over the rangers now.
Other than that it’s about the games and the team developing
Jpp2.0
Some younger ex-player as the 3rd guy announcing would add a lot.
A bunch of teams have the 3rd guy, the bench guy, the guy who does the intermission interviews. That guy chimes in much more regularly than say giannone would.
Think that would help Sam and Joe. Substitute all the lame filler time with the 3rd guy ex players bringing up observations and the 3 guys being able to expound on
SN
The roster still needs to shake out as their are 9 forwards for six slots in top 6. By default Cheadle drops to 3C so that leaves Goat Boy and Krapsoft on the outs in top 6 imho. Goat Boy will be put on waivers so Krapsoft is the question mark. Prolly send down Baron as he has options if Reaves is a go and keep Krapsoft as 13th forward.
tomk19
Despite the fact that he’s lost a step, I still love Sam.
I can’t understand why Micheletti insists on defending the perp and the refs nearly every time a Ranger gets cheap shotted or if the other team just gets away with something. It’s part of the game. Players test the limits. Refs miss calls. To ignore it and cover up mistakes as much as he does makes him a stooge for the league and frankly a part of the problem. Is he interested in working for the league some day? I’m guessing it has more to do with his gig doing national coverage games. Dave Maloney and even JD didn’t do that. (Espo was probably over the top as a homer color commentator/broadcaster). Micheletti needs to know his audience, call out refs mistakes and frankly, his bosses at the MSG network should be all over him about that.
SN
Nobody is saying Sam Rosen is not a great guy, nice person, and a good neighbor. His calls with JD in the 90s were epic. But NYR fans have also been spoiled with Kenny and Dave on the radio as a direct comparison to Salmon Joe calling games.
All for nostalgia when I am not watching the broadcast. The current TV audio feed is just plain adysmal.
Gravy
I actually think Strome could handle a shift to 3C and make that line better, where Chytil may benefit more being with a puck distributing wing like Panarin as 2C.
As I said before, I almost consider Mika a top wing and Panarin the 1C based on their skill set. Seems Chytil would be better served working as a wing type role. Only downside is he’d still be taking faceoffs, unless Laf moves to C on that line (which is a lot to ask now).
cregg7
💯 % tomk
The defense of a dangerous or dirty play by the perp is nauseating
Even my 10yo yells at the TV “shut up Joe”
cregg7
How about a line of Panerin Chytil Barron with Barron taking draws. (Or even Goodrow)
Not sure you break up strome/panerin
But May need to tinker if we are gonna see what the team looks like if he’s a cap casualty
tomk19
My other theory on Micheletti’s knee jerk reactions to defending the refs is that he knows all of them, flies with them, sits with them on flights. I don’t care. He works for the MSG network which caters to NY Ranger fans so when he covers up their mistakes, he’s insults the team and the fans.
Gravy
I’m not of the belief that Panarin and Strome NEED each other. I think they read each other well, but both have been effective when paired with others.
tomk19
McKegg returned to Hartford.
Nils won the Lars Erik Sjoberg award for best rookie in camp. And this:
Three for home games, and the other three for road games.
CraigWeather
Tinordi-Nemeth as the 3rd pairing in practice…. and Dryden Hunt in the lineup over Kravy/Gauthier. Interesting. Looks like they’re going balls out for game 1….
James G
Will Jacob be named captain?
Will Chris be accepting of Jacob’s leadership role ?
Will Kelly finally tell Artemi that Igor is the baby’s real father?
Find out next week on the days of our lives…
St Pete Eli
If the Rangers should win the cup which alternate captain does Bettman address to come get the Stanley Cup? Asking for a friend?
cooscoos
Someone ripped the ‘A’ from Black and Decker’s jersey.
cregg7
This is getting ridiculous.
6 alternates?!
Just name a captain with 2 alternates and move along.
Keep it simple for crying out loud
cregg7
New age. Everyone gets a ribbon. No troll left behind.
St Pete Eli
Alternate Captains come get the the Stanley Cup 🤔
St Pete Eli
Alternate Captain with the most gold stars come get the Stanley Cup!
cooscoos
Kenny is sharper than Sam at this point in time, but he’s similar in his hesitancy to criticize zebras, name names of Ranger error-makers or to speak his considerable hockey mind with abandon. Maloney’s a good foil. He can’t help himself from being honest. Now and then, you can tell by his sheepishly inflective voice that he worries that he’s gone too far. Dolan, after all, has a rep for chitcanning announcers who are too straightforward in their criticisms.
SN
Captain Vacancies
NYR, Buff., Cal., Columbus, Ariz, Ott., and Sea.
other non playoff teams have Captains named recently (past 2 years): Van., San Jose, Det and NJD.
cooscoos
Sam way too often lately drifts off to doing color instead of describing the play in front of him and misses too much, too late.
tomk19
Gallant and Drury aren’t responsible for Quinn and Gorton dragging this out, but it’s becoming anticlimactic. Enough already. I think it’ll be Fox on the night of the home-opener. Trouba’s play just hasn’t been strong enough yet. Kreider’s too quiet and streaky. Zibanejad’s too quiet and not feisty enough. Panerin was never really a consideration and he doesn’t seem to want it. Strome would be fine if he was signed. Maybe it’ll be him.
cooscoos
I still see many Captains and Alternates across the league who make sense for their franchises. NYR choices confuse the hell out of me.
St Pete Eli
coos
It is my one main complaint with Sam. I overlook everything else because he is such a nice guy 🤔
cregg7
It’s a spit in the face to the vets who could clearly fill the role
Team saying “you aren’t worthy”.
Pompous and can cause demoralized group full of resentment.
cooscoos
It aggravates me when I hear the roar of the crowd and a big hit down in the corner of my screen and it’s never mentioned by this dandy duo.
cooscoos
AND both are SUDDENLY on the grit and muscle bandwagon, following the latest corporate script.
Jpp2.0
Right on.
They work off the script
It’s been that way since Joe came on.
Bdl
JD did the same. It’s not just Joe. JD was the original shill. The last color commentator to tell it like it was, was Espo.
cregg7
I’ve supported drury all summer
This 6 Alternate thing really has me irked
Of course in any interview the players will be PC “we are all leaders yada yada “. But deep inside you know it’s a joke to them too.
Why do the rangers have to do stupid crap like this ? Which team has had any success in recent memory without a captain?
Everything seemed so Copacetic after the Mika signing.
And now they have to go and totally redeem themselves (dumb and dumber quote)
bobbyo2019
Nothing says Captains are not important more than naming 6 alternates to shut up the fan base
ilb2001
Six? Why not give everyone who makes this roster an A and call it a day? Goalies included. That way nobody gets upset. Geez….
St Pete Eli
Panarin…”Stromeo no you’re captain this week.”
CCCP
We just named 47 new alternative captains! We are officially retarded!
cooscoos
e unum, pluribus
cooscoos
57 varieties of Captains. The NY Ketchups
cooscoos
Bank to teller: ‘We’ve decided to make you a vice-president. Here are your new business cards.’
‘ Nifto. Do I get a raise?’
‘No, same old $9 per hour.’
cooscoos
Captain to Torts: ‘The boys have asked me to approach you with something.’
Torts: ‘F the boys.’
Thought Krapsoft was odd man out. Good for GG and Dreary.
Pete
be real curious what they said to kravtsov and how long he will be down there
SN
No more youngsters in bottom 6 save got 5 year vet Flip Chesdle. GG is here to win not change diapers.
CCCP
We are officially Baskin-Robbins of the NHL.
Pete
could just be roster limit shenanigans
cregg7
Let’s hope kravy goes down with a good attitude like Chytil did a couple years ago. He will be back.
Nothing wrong with seasoning the right way. Getting hurt in preseason May have been what did it. Plus waiver issues
Barron knocking at the door too. But it’s not like he’s overstayed the AHL welcome yet either. Spent most time in college. Them both playing top minutes in all situations down there will be good for them.
Makes me want to see some Wolfpack games
SN
Goat Boy gets a reprieve
Carp whining with the wash women on the athletic boards
I doubt it’s for too long. Kravtsov especially. For no other reason but money. He can make much more than $925K playing in Russia. Let alone $70K playing in Hartford. As per Brooks, he still has his KHL clause.
As far as not playing kids on bottom 6. Barron was projected to be exactly that at the moment. Bottom 6. While I understand they prefer to keep Hunt as number 13, what about Gauthier instead of Barron? It’s all numbers game again. My hope that there is something in the works to trade some of those waiver eligible guys.
SN
Barron is a bottom 6 forward. Goat boy, Flip and Crapsoft are not.
Do we want to win games against cup contenders or play the “potential” game for another season?
This roster can make the playoffs if GG plays a complete roster which may mean young unproven offensively focused high picks aren’t in the mix every night.
cregg7
Not sure what carp doesn’t get
Combination of assets management (waiver risk) but much more importantly getting these future important pieces a ton of minutes in important situations
The press box and practice squad is not what they need.
Kravy needs 20 min a game and PP time not 11 min a night
Goat boy or hunt can be a 13th forward and it won’t stem their development.
Sheesh. You’d think carp has been around long enough to have seen this issue before.
cregg7
Glad Reaves seems to have avoided catastrophic ligament damage
A testament to him being in great shape to have the stabilizers and flexibility to not blow out his knee or ankle
Old Ranger Fan
I assume they are working hard to move Goat Boy and Selma. The problem is everyone else knows it too. Maybe they get mid to late round draft picks for them. (3rs to 6th)
cregg7
Could be. But at some point they may need to just cut bait
BW
If you go by what you saw in pre-season games (obviously we have no way of knowing what practice was like), they kept the right guys on the big squad. It does make me suspect that a trade is in the offing, however.
SN
This might send the brunch crying into the streets but they need another 4th liner who can throw hands. Can’t rely on one guy in case of injury. I know Tinordi can play the role. Prefer a forward for Reaves insurance and knowing that you always need more than one. Holding on to Geerston would have made sense
Wicky
Wasn’t a fan of any Meeka contract over $8 mil per…still not. I have a distinct feeling the “rumoured” locker room divide continues now with that contract and the ridiculous no captain farce does as well.
Had a feeling in the off season that Kravtsov would be the early “odd man out” if the roster (kinda like Chytil a couple seasons ago). I did think it would be Barron over hunt that made it back then but hunt deserved his spot and I think they want Barron on the 3rd line longer term.
Definitely more moving parts yet to be established, and depth isn’t a bad thing at all.
St Pete Eli
My hope is they had a nice convo with Kravtsov. Him playing big minutes in Hartford with Barron will pay off for both of them in the long run.
Wicky
St Pete
Yep, absolutely!!
tommyG
JamesG,
your 11:41am post made me laugh so hard I almost fell off the chair
bobbyo2019
Moves are related to asset management …and maybe they want to see Baron and Kravtsov play together a bit
St Pete Eli
Bobbyo
My thoughts exactly!
Wicky
I do think, my personal opinion only, that the keeping of a player due to waiver eligibility and the sending down of a player that outplayed the waiver eligible one is just as bad asset management…actually worse… as losing a lesser player on waivers.
So much for “earning” a spot
bobbyo2019
Messier Hadfield and Maloney just added as alternate captains
bobbyo2019
And Barron will get minutes as center in Hartford which he needs
BW
@bobby02019 – I couldn’t agree more. Barron’s future with NYR is as a center-iceman. Wings are very crowded. I can see a scenario where Chytil is 2C, Rooney 4C and Barron 3C.
James G
Can’t have Barron or Kravtsov as a thirteenth forward or a 4th liner. Simple as that. No more of this bottom six with guys that don’t fit the role stuff.
They don’t want to lose Hajek or Gauthier for nothing either. Some things to work out on D obviously but could be insurance for Nils since it’s only a matter of when he’s overmatched not if he’s overmatched on the NHL level.
Also, doubt Reaves is 100% and I doubt we’ll see him play 82 even though he very well could.
cregg7
I think I hit the “like” button on too many comments it dilutes their meaning.
Similar to naming 6 captains
But I guess it’s a good problem I have likening some much of what I read here I’m an easy grader. To those that don’t get the like button don’t fret, your time will come. I don’t necessarily dislike you, it just may have been a miss or something I wasn’t totally feelin’.
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Flip is a scoring forward, needs to be on wing so he has more of those chances to convert. These were scorer’s goals, all scored while he was shooting with nobody around him. He has 31 Even Strength assists in 186 games, can’t win faceoffs and is lost in dzone, has not shown to be an nhl center yet. Maybe he turns the corner with Gallant. I argue to make him a winger to leverage his strengths and get some 2way centers in here to allow him and the other wingers to flourish
My not so humble brag.
After first preseason game I said tinordi looked better than Nemeth.
Many of the brunch crowd continued their preconceived tinordi hate
Now. After a full pre season it’s nice to feel vindicated that maybe he’s not just a face puncher. But a 29 yo in his prime that is big and mobile
Zero fights and one of our more steady defenders with some decent timing on pinching in the offensive zone and getting it out of our defensive zone
#vindication phase 1
SN
You have a really good point, but it’s easier said than done. You’re going to need to give one or two of those wingers to find that center. Krakko? Lafreniere? Kravtsov? Chytil?
Can’t say enough about the way Rooney competes. Makes it tough for Barron, who in my opinion is an NHL player right now.
Kakko has been very impressive. The confidence that the 4 youths played with last night was very encouraging.
Chyt-Maps goals were all high skill plays—and were made through traffic. I really like him with Goodrow (who can spell Chytil and take a faceoff). Kravtsov adds some more high end skill to what I’d consider to be a dangerous third line.
Kaako, Lafreniere, Blais, Strome all enjoyable to watch and we’re engaged.
Agree 100% on Tinordi, cregg7 — the guy just makes small plays that are effective. It was interesting to note he was less involved in the post-whistle fireworks last night than Nemeth… a team could do worse with Tinordi/Nemeth as your 6/7 defensemen. And when you’ve got Jones, Schneider, et al waiting in the wings, there is pressure to perform.
Trouba looked fine (altho I’d rather see Kreider as captain), as did Fox, and even Miller was ok. Lindgren was involved at both ends of the ice — especially deft at getting his shots on net.
They are going to need Tinordi. I’m not quite sold that Nils is going to hold up when the intensity of the regular season amps up. Some big rugged teams in the conference.
With regards to the Fishies — they definitely looked a bit smug, particularly Lee.
Islanders played like a team that is used to winning and expects to win.
Bdl —
Funny I was wondering what the outcome of this game would have been if Nils (and even Zibanejad) had been playing.
Tinordi and Nemeth was nice to have together… which is why I don’t think we’ll see Nils and Jones together in the lineup as regulars (barring injury to others)
AA,
It wouldn’t be shocking if the Nemeth, Tinordi pair is together opening night.
BDL – 1000% of Joe Willie and Tinordi as a pair, both looked impressive. Lindgren has not looked good all camp, hope he is just trying to keep away from any stitches until regular season.
Chytil first two goals were high skill lasers, 1 on the power play, didn’t see the last of in OT on a 4 on 3. They were not high traffic plays in front. Kids has great hands and gets after it on the forecheck with his speed. Great atTributes for a winger, square peg in round hole at center. Best thing that could have happened for his trade value was last nights game.
Drury needs a plan for the center position as the wings have a lot of talent. Until some clarity arrives, team will be a work in progress.
The hit by Mayfield on Stromeo was a dirty play. Stromeo watching puck and Mayfield literally hits Stromeo when he is tracking the puck carrier in the middle of the zone and then no penalty. Wtf??
Would be a different sport if you could hit defenders while they try to cover the puck carrier..
Admiral
Totally agree with your 8:14 post. They are smug stinking fish. I enjoyed seeing Bar-Zuul in the box on the GWG?
Wonder if what The, DJ, and Bread are thinking after the kids performance against the gods of the east?
Cross out that if on my last post please.
SN —
I thought Chytil’s shots were made with a man on him or at least close-in. I don’t know if you wanna call that traffic, but he definitely wasn’t wide open on the perimeter. Either way, it’s something we want to see a lot more of…
And it was amazing to see Chytil, Lafreniere, and Kaako in OT, much less a power play, for an extended and game-tilting shift. Things are different post Dairy Queen.
St Pete —
It’s gonna be fun this season as the league begins to go hunting for big game Fish…
Fishsticks can’t hide as “underdogs” anymore.
I’m sorry that Mayfield/Strome thing was avoidable. Fishsticks are dirty—and SMUG.
Last night is the way we need to play if we’re going to have success!
It was a simple “north-south” game with effective special teams.
There can be no floaters…. no passengers.
DJ, Bread and THE Kreider are literally 3 of our top 6… So, if they’re floating around, they not only set an example for the rest of the team, but they take up valuable minutes. I think a view from the press box was just what they needed, although they should know what it takes to win at this stage.
It’s the same old, same old with these NHL refs, fugging incompetent. I turned the game off when Kratsov tried to go around a islander defender and was literally tackled, no call, 10 seconds later idiot ref calls penalty on Fox because he reach out and touch an islander’ player’s glove.
Chytil last night was the Chytil we have been waiting for. If he can play with that intensity during the regular season this will be very enjoyable to watch. It was especially gratifying watching him mix it up in scrums to get the puck.
Craig – they were all held out for an Eichel trade so you might get your wish
SN,
Bahahahahahahahahahaha (pauses to catch breath) ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
That would be quite a haul for the Sabres and the Ranger Twitterverse would explode. Great effort without the big guns (other than Fox) last night. Giving up 4 was the only negative. Lindgren has been shaky in the exhibition games. He needs to be better when they count. Tinordi looks like a 3rd pair D which I wasn’t sure about. Not sure what they do about Hayek now other than say good bye. Can’t trade him. Teams will just wait for him to go on waivers. If Strome is good to go they should be ready for Wednesday.
Just watched the Strome collision GIF in Carp’s article. That was interference. Mayfield set a moving pick for Clutterbuck to pick up a loose puck. Legal in lacrosse but not in hockey. There is no way the low ref in the corner didn’t see it, but, he decided to play on.
ORF – textbook interference- Mayfield was looking right at Strome, no accident. It’s almost as if Joe’s Miss-a-plenty goes out of his way to give every opponent the benefit of the doubt vs Rangers.
they do not allow that in lax anymore but back in the day ‘Man-Ball’ had some nasty collisions. Unfortunately lax is a very tame sport compared to days of yore.
Great chatter boys.
Let’s go!!!!
Really hope strome and Reaves are healthy. Other than that, we got out of the pre season what we needed. Can you believe their meaningless record was 4-2. After the first game I thought it would be 1-5 if they were lucky.
I haven’t officiated LAX for the last 15 years but man-ball used to be legal. I never understood why picks had to be stationary if you had possession but not on a loose balls. Glad man-ball isn’t legal anymore. All you could do was call unnecessary roughness on the really bad ones and get in a argument with the coach.
I don’t think Mayfield meant to hurt Strome-just get in his way. But the rules should be enforced.
Tinordi is Reaves insurance …looks fine on bottom pair
Apparently Strome hurt his wrist but Gallant said he doesn’t think it’s serious, time will tell.
Let’s hope our yoots are better than some of us think. They held their own last night and the azzlanders knew it.
The yutes all look like they are ready take the next step relative to their individual skill sets but the preseason was as much about the new guys and at first blush they are exactly would this roster needed; bottom 6, bottom pair depth, physicality and capable hockey players.
Favorite play from last nights game was during a scrum after Pullock was being assessed a minor, he was trying to draw someone off with him; Blais grabbed him from behind giving him a nasty face wash while bending his head/neck backwards. Rarely has NYR been on the giving, rather than receiving end, of those little plays that happen all game long.
Mika signed. 8×8.5. I’m no Mika fan, but this isn’t a bad deal.
https://twitter.com/nyp_brooksie/status/1447222898951958530?s=21
BDL beat me to it
8 !!!
That’s a long time. Let’s see how it ages.
Will be good for our panerin window and top centers don’t grow on trees
Hope the cap goes up
LB said it. A year or two longer than they’d like, but $8.5 is more than reasonable number. I’d like to see the structure.
Curious if Drury was waiting on Gallant’s assessment of Mika from camp.
.
Stromeo swan song?
Another thing. Drury is no Gorton. He didn’t want to start this season with Zibanejad not signed. And with Eichel’s name in the background.
Id keep strome for 5.75 -6
Top 6 center. Seems to do a bit of everything. Great comraderi.
But I don’t have a handle on the cap crunch like others do.
Maybe bridge fox till the cap goes up?
I wonder if Mika has a no trade clause and if so, when does it kick in.
Craig / agree on Stromeo. Fox is going to get paid big dollars; not sure if those players are getting bridged if you look at the other deals handed out to young D
But but but Mika wants 100 million a year!
He took a hometown discount in his last deal and in this deal as well. But he doesn’t engage in the corners much! Waaaweee 🙂
TommyG- he has full NMC now, I’m sure it’s been extended for at least 5-6 years on his new contract.
Great to have Zibanejad signed before it becomes a distraction during the season. No Eichel eliminates that distraction as well. My only question right now is how good will our goaltending be?
My guess is he would get 7×10 in July easily. So he left a couple of millions on the table, but gained a year on his contract.
And yeah, no Eichel. I can drink to that tonight.
The Persian Version pockets $68 million. Off in search of original Elvis vinyl and a signed Buddy Holly Stratocaster.
I have mixed emotions on this… 8.5 is reasonable… 8 years… well, thats a long time. Also, while I appreciate his regular season production… I’m quite concerned with his disappearing act in the bubble/when we play heavier teams and time/space shrink where you HAVE to get your nose dirty. I just don’t want to be in another position where this rebuild takes us to “very good” but not good enough like 2011-2017.
Zib not signed to get his nose dirty. I think we finally have a GM who understands that’s someone else’s job.
Now that Mika is signed, can we talk about the elephant in the room? Jacob Troobuh? He is not so very good.
No one ever noticed that Chytil likes big European ice and three on three? He craves room and the NHL ain’t got some, especially in the second season. Package him at his apex.
I think it’s safe to say Nemeth tinordi will be the 3rd pair for Washington
Lundkvist gets the home opener the next night
Give Troobs a chance with a reliable partner for once before sending him to the glue factory.
I can definitely toast to not getting Eichel. That would have been a disaster not to mention giving up very good assets.
If the deal was gonna happen, this is about as good an AAV as was realistically possible.
That’s a huge commitment to him. I hope it works out for everyone.
IMO it won’t matter who Trouba’s partner is because Trouba is not a good skater and as soon as he gets pressured he turns the puck over every time. That was another Gorton disaster.
Tinordi has shown nothing but hope and promise for ten + years and he’s had substance problemos. He looks useful this Fall. Illusion? We’ll see. I root for him.
Joba Chamberlain overdue for a big year.
Gotta love the media and some fans who are up in arms:”Oh, my gosh! What are we going to do now? How are we going to sign Kakko and Lafrenière after they also give Fox his $9M contact?”
Yeah, let’s not try to dress up the best possible lineup tomorrow because we are worried about salary cap in 2-3 years.
Interesting Hollywood-like production by the Rangers. Puff piece with teammates singing his praises between periods last night and announce the big extension the next morning.
To be honest. He didn’t give much of a discount off his market ask.
7yr 10m. $70m.
8×8.5 68m.
And drury paid it. I dunno I hope it works out. Our success is now directly tied to Mika. That’s just the way it is now. Our entire rebuild will be tied to this decision. All these years of dealing with the losing and seasons with no expectations. A unique chance and situation in rangers history: and it’s tied to Mika being a number 1 guy capable of driving through 4 rounds of the playoffs.
That’s the part that concerns me. That’s he’s not just one of the guys like even a Panarin can be on the wing. He needs to be our number 1 center going up against the best centers in the world for the biggest prize.
I really don’t like that premise and reality as a 32 year long ranger fan. That this whole decade maybe even 15 years of accumulating developing and going for it. Will no matter what other guys do, always bank on what Mika does.
This whole rebuild was carefree until today. Now there’s always gonna be some built in concern that won’t be alleviated until we actually break through and win one. At least that’s how I feel about it
Not crazy about term but at least Eichel talk goes away
Which Einstein, in-the-know big name hockey Journalist or Blogger predicted the imminent $8.5? Charlatans posing as Nostradamus.
Quasimodo predicted that.
Blind Squirrels claiming credit
When I first saw Quasimodo in person, I knew his face rang a bell.
Still like a healthy Eichel. How could you not?
i hear what you are saying to an extent Ilb, and don’t get me wrong i’m fine with this deal overall, but it’s this offseason is when they have to sign Fox, Kakko, kravtsov and strome or his replacement.
Even with this being a slightly below market deal, think Strome almost has to be gone now for cap reasons. They perhaps could still squeeze him in and get everyone else locked up, but it would be awfully right and they’d have very little wiggle room if they did (with Laf needing a new deal the year after) and they’d be susceptible to an offersheet for sure on kakko this year or Laf next year
And Jpp, definitely not without risk on this one, but the reality of Gorton never developing an in-house alternative
All that aside.
He’s an 8.5m player. I think 8.5 is spot on for his value.
I hope it works out and Mika goes down as the best center in rangers history.
It’s not gortons fault the rangers moved up by winning the lottery.
Before moving up for Kakko the rangers were gonna take zegras
And if they didn’t move up and get laffy they would have taken lundell in their original position.
Us winning the draft lottos is the real reason we don’t have a blue chip young center and our rebuild produced a lot of top end talent on the wings
If this deal means Strome is gone, who’s replacing Strome? How much less are we paying our 2c than what Strome will get? I was really down on Strome after the bubble debacle and when he showed up (I believe) out of shape at the start of last season. I wish he were a bit stronger and a little better defensively, but he’s won me over.
The truth is that if Zibanajad is our 1c, a grittier, more defensive 2c would be ideal. The problem is that there is such a shortage of top 6 centers out there. I think they could wind up extending Strome too.
The Bromance between Kreider and Mika will continue. As others have stated, this appears to be staged so as to name Mika the captain. Forget about finding another captain like Messier. I was in Colorado during their glory years and Joe Sakic was the captain. Put up points in bunches but was a quiet leader. No reason why Mika cannot be the same.
Mika Mika
JPP, get it on those kakko/Laf picks, but can’t ignore the Lias debacle. Multiple other centers went in that draft and may well have been other centers we overlooked in other drafts (outside of kakko/Laf picks), which may only be apparent in a couple years.
Drury snuck this out on a Sunday morning. He was under the radar. No mid season drama.
Maybe he will be less timid with the contract done.
Of course I don’t want him to get hurt doing something silly. But one wonders if heading into contract year human nature would be protect thyself and your potential paycheck.
Now he has security for the rest of his career.
I see good things ahead for him for at least the next 4 or 5 years
Hope he stays healthy.
Maybe Barron is a 2C
Need to keep developing kids that can play for cheap on a cap world
I don’t think Kaako has done anything g to deserve a huge raise year except draft pedigree
If he breaks out this year, then we may have a bigger crunch
I know I have mentioned this before but I believe the ESPN deal will certainly aid in raising the salary cap.
ESPN deal + getting rid of Troobuh. We should be good. 😀
“Zib not signed to get his nose dirty. I think we finally have a GM who understands that’s someone else’s job.”
I agree, Coos. Now, if we could only convince our fellow boneheads of this.
As someone said above we are very much in danger of an offer sheet next year or one beyond
Darn flat cap
Alex, only if they let it get to that, which is why they really shouldn’t be locking up strome longterm. It was almost always gonna be the case they were going to pay one top 6 money, but in this case he came in at $1.5m/yr less than Eichel.
Remember the player has to sign the offer sheet and I have seen nothing thus far to suggest Fox or Laf would want to sign an offersheet that would put the rangers in a terrible situation. If Kakko has a truly monster year this season, it’s not impossible someone gives him a big offer, but again not a sure thing by any means a team would do so or he would sign it.
I think after the Toronto and carolina feud there will be much less chance of any offer sheet for fear of retribution and or cap entanglement
TRIVIA TIME!
Who was the first non-North American to be selected first overall in an NHL Entry Draft?
Pavel Bure
Roman Hamrlik
Jari Kurri
Owen Nolan
Mats Sundin
Hmmm
Nolan?
When does roster trimming have to be completed by?
Nolan is incorrect
Roman Hamrlik
Hamrlik is incorrect
Mats Sundin by the Quebec Nordiques.
“Mats Sundin by the Quebec Nordiques.”
Long time lurker, barely poster is correct. It is Mats Sundin.
Larry Brooks’ article from yesterday:
“I don’t think there is any question that the Rangers and general manager Chris Drury would prefer to extend Zibanejad than trade for Eichel. It is not only the risk involved in trading for an athlete who would undergo disk replacement surgery that is unprecedented for an NHL player. It is not only the cost in assets of the package going back to Buffalo. It is more so about the hierarchy’s belief that Zibanejad is a better player at this stage than Eichel.“
You are right about me being a long time lurker! I guess you have our IP address history. I just never felt like setting up a WordPress account until recently.
Brooksie logical. No mind-blowing info from the mountain there.
Obvious that Miller has been told to be more physical. He has been, but it’s not his nature
Two PP goals from Chytil playing bumper position. Has he ever been used in that position before?
Curious that Hajek was not waived today. Rosters have to be set by tomorrow, correct? Could they actually send Nils and Barron down and call it a day?
I see a lot of negative reaction to the Zibanejad contract. Which just shows to go ya, fans hate contracts.
I just read NO NMC or NTC included in deal. Is that verified?
In a hard cap, fans become accountants. Really sucks. Bring in the luxury tax, most of these owners will take the cash over spending more to win.
My wife has a No Move Contract.
My guess is injury status is impacting roster moves or Drury putting feelers out for Selma
My 2 takes on tadays Mika deal.
1) No more Eichel trade nonsense.
2) Wondering now if Mika can now finally afford a haircut or will he perpetually be known as Shaggy?
This wasn’t smart of toney. He just can’t be doing that crap.
Announcers singing his praise and he throws a punch.
It was his own guy who came in at the end to move the pile forward
Interestingly, the Rangers still have the cap space to trade for eichel.
Bdl …..pleeeeeassse stop….no more Eichel.
Chytil, Jones, #1 pick – let’s make a run this season
SN….if that is for Eichel….the only thing we are making a run for is the dumpster. The guy is damaged goods. Way too risky.
Capfriendly has Mika’s new deal with an NMC until the deadline of the final year. Ouch?
NMC until the last year.
Well, DJ Banana Stand is setting up residency at MSG for a long stretch. May he hoist the Cup as a Ranger!
I bet Sabres would love to have a experienced dman… Troobuh would look great in their uniform.
Troobuh Chytil 1st for Eichel
A top 6 center tandem of Eichel-Mika for the next 6 years is the best alternative for Cup Contention. If Dreary gives up redundant players, only losing trade assets.
If Eichel has a career ending injury – LITR is an option, paying him money (insurance?) with no cap hit
Panarin-Eichel-Kakko
Laffy-Meeka-Kreider
Blais-Baron-Goodrow
Gettinger-Rooney-Reaves
G Men had one of the worse days in history today. Lose to Cowboys and lose Jones and Barkley as well.
Carp with a new article, post updated.
Carp likes the Mika deal.
I’d like if the NMC was only for around the first five years. Probably the trade off for the lower AAV.
How to save money in NYC:
1. Work 24/7
2. Don’t go nowhere [Nobody let’s me anywhere anymore anyway since I am not vaccinated for my own safety;)]
3. Don’t eat
4. Don’t sleep
5. Don’t breath
C3
Sounds like a plan?
SN 8:39
Kravtsov back to Russia?
Here’s hoping Sam retires soon…..
Not sure how many times over the next 8 years I can hear his phlegm-filled mouth yell “Mika Zibanejad!!”
Going to be an interesting day in Rangers land. Still have a minimum 2 cuts to make, and 3 guys who would have to clear waivers to be sent down. Being that the Rangers did not waive any of them yesterday, does that put them on the team? If so, would they really send Nils down? Imagine the reaction to that.
Craig, and others.
Back about 10 years or so, I met Sam Rosen. Spoke with him many times (half dozen or more) over the course of two summers. Sam is one of the nicest, humble, most genuine human beings I have ever met. So while I don’t disagree that his game has fallen off, it bothers me when he gets criticized for it.
BDL, today is the day they need to cut roster down, but if Strome or Reaves need to go on short-term IR they can delay the decision on some combo of Barron, Hunt and Goat. I think they carry Tinordi and Hajek as extras until Drury can make a deal.
Sure Sam is a sweetheart, but he and Joe are painful to listen to. Shame we didn’t give Kenny the gig
There is always ways you can clear cap space in 2 years, could buy out Trouba if you can’t trade him, same goes for Kreider.
I will never understand a fans need to break up a team so quickly. The Rangers have their veteran core under contract for the foreseeable future, and their young core under their control for the foreseeable future. They are getting ready to contend. What the heck is the rush to trade this guy, and buyout that guy?
Good morning, boneheads!
Was just going to say the IR may make their decision easier. But still, unless both Strome and Reaves are placed on IR, at least one player needs to be cut.
BDL, I don’t understand that either. Especially when casual fans and some writers without cap knowledge think they know better than people who do this for living.
It took a lot to convince Mika’s camp
to sign a $8.5M AAV contract, it seems. It’s fully buyout protected with $60M out of $68M paid in bonuses. He also has a full NMC until 7 days prior to deadline in his last contract year. Then it changes to 21 team no trade list.
Ilb,
Am I correct that a player waived needs 24 hrs to clear or be claimed, and until then is considered a roster player? If that is correct, and nobody goes to IR, then Nils and Barron are going to Hartford.
Take it easy guys, I’m not advocating to do anything, just saying there are always options out there if the rangers need to free up cap space in a few years when the pups would need new contracts.
I also find it interesting that teams are starting to give front loaded contracts again. Mika’s is. It’s not as front loaded as it used to be because of the new variability rules, but still. His contract starts in 2022, so his escrow will be capped at 10% that year and 6% after. And my guess is because of this new TV contract the league isn’t really worried about players falling too far behind in what they owe to the owners by the end of this CBA.
TommyG- sorry, now I see it sounded like we were attacking you. We did not mean to.
BDL-yes, you are right.
You were not being singled out Tommy. Many fans have the same exact thought as you. I don’t agree with it, but that doesn’t make you wrong, or your opinion a bad one.
Ilb,
Then that means a minor trade is coming, or somebody is going to IR, or Nils and Barron are Hartford bound.
I believe the 3rd pair D is set 5,6,7, with Nemeth, Lundkvist, and Tinordi? Not in any particular order. Something will have to be done with Hajek of course.
BdL. Nice thoughts on Sam. I still love him.
The booth would be so much better if they would replace Michaletti with say…. Valiquette or Dave Maloney
Imagine Richter wanted to sit shotgun there?! That would be awesome
Or two minor trades. I’m not convinced Gauthier is in their long term plans despite him having a decent camp. He, along with Hajek, just keep falling more and more behind all these new young guys.
ILB, I agree with you 100%. I don’t get paid the big bucks to figure out the cap situation and have no idea about it. I was just saying there are always options when the time comes. I not concerned, Drury will handle it when the time comes.
I don’t think we need to concern ourselves with hajek
If he’s claimed…so what
I also don’t think it would be bad for Nils to get a couple months in the AHL and bring him along slowly which could pay dividends later this season
Let him work out some kinks and get used to the smaller rinks down there
If we didn’t have other options I’d be fine keeping him. But there really is no rush
Sam Rosen will go when Sam Rosen decides to go. If people don’t like Sam’s announcing, there are other alternatives like shut the TV sound off and listen to it on the radio.
Gauthier was give a big opportunity by Gallant. He did nothing with it. Hajek was the only D man to not play in one of the last two preseason games.
Beginning to agree with the goat boy Rico fata comparison
Tantalizing skating
Nothing to show for it
“Coach, why not try Gautier on the power play to maybe springboard his confidence and scoring?”
Torts replies “cause he stinks”
Also agreeing that Gorton not being here there is much less pressure to care about the optics of the mcdonagh trade
With Hajek And Quinn’s son howden
Nice kids.
Hajek has good wheels and you can see why scouts like him. But was only really good his first 5 games or so till that shoulder injury. Then he became forgettable.
Meanwhile, the jettison of Ryan Graves still looms large as one of Gortons memorable fails.
I have had the same experience over the years with Sam Rosen. I have run into him in NY and also when the Rangers were in Anaheim. He could not be a nicer, more humble fellow. And he loves the franchise and the fans. It is tough watching him lately as he has slowed down a bit, but he won’t be going anywhere until he himself decides to.
I kinda feel likes there’s nothing to talk about anymore. Only thing there is to do is watch the games and observe on them.
You gotta think drury is hoping internal candidates secure their hoped upon roles and the only roster building talk is what extensions look like
A surprise trade for young center who can grow into a 200 foot two way 2C maybe.
Suddenly what they want to do and decide to do with strome is the biggest question. Undoubtedly has something special with Panarin but re-signing him really put drury in a position where he has to bridge guys he should probably lock up long term if he can (Kakko)
And as long as strome is on the roster will the coach ever separate him from panarin. And how do you give chytil that chance wouldn’t doing that.
The d pairings and the 6-7 guys will sort itself out by play. So there are no questions there right now in my mind.
What happens with strome and chytil is the biggest question looming over the rangers now.
Other than that it’s about the games and the team developing
Some younger ex-player as the 3rd guy announcing would add a lot.
A bunch of teams have the 3rd guy, the bench guy, the guy who does the intermission interviews. That guy chimes in much more regularly than say giannone would.
Think that would help Sam and Joe. Substitute all the lame filler time with the 3rd guy ex players bringing up observations and the 3 guys being able to expound on
The roster still needs to shake out as their are 9 forwards for six slots in top 6. By default Cheadle drops to 3C so that leaves Goat Boy and Krapsoft on the outs in top 6 imho. Goat Boy will be put on waivers so Krapsoft is the question mark. Prolly send down Baron as he has options if Reaves is a go and keep Krapsoft as 13th forward.
Despite the fact that he’s lost a step, I still love Sam.
I can’t understand why Micheletti insists on defending the perp and the refs nearly every time a Ranger gets cheap shotted or if the other team just gets away with something. It’s part of the game. Players test the limits. Refs miss calls. To ignore it and cover up mistakes as much as he does makes him a stooge for the league and frankly a part of the problem. Is he interested in working for the league some day? I’m guessing it has more to do with his gig doing national coverage games. Dave Maloney and even JD didn’t do that. (Espo was probably over the top as a homer color commentator/broadcaster). Micheletti needs to know his audience, call out refs mistakes and frankly, his bosses at the MSG network should be all over him about that.
Nobody is saying Sam Rosen is not a great guy, nice person, and a good neighbor. His calls with JD in the 90s were epic. But NYR fans have also been spoiled with Kenny and Dave on the radio as a direct comparison to Salmon Joe calling games.
All for nostalgia when I am not watching the broadcast. The current TV audio feed is just plain adysmal.
I actually think Strome could handle a shift to 3C and make that line better, where Chytil may benefit more being with a puck distributing wing like Panarin as 2C.
As I said before, I almost consider Mika a top wing and Panarin the 1C based on their skill set. Seems Chytil would be better served working as a wing type role. Only downside is he’d still be taking faceoffs, unless Laf moves to C on that line (which is a lot to ask now).
💯 % tomk
The defense of a dangerous or dirty play by the perp is nauseating
Even my 10yo yells at the TV “shut up Joe”
How about a line of Panerin Chytil Barron with Barron taking draws. (Or even Goodrow)
Not sure you break up strome/panerin
But May need to tinker if we are gonna see what the team looks like if he’s a cap casualty
My other theory on Micheletti’s knee jerk reactions to defending the refs is that he knows all of them, flies with them, sits with them on flights. I don’t care. He works for the MSG network which caters to NY Ranger fans so when he covers up their mistakes, he’s insults the team and the fans.
I’m not of the belief that Panarin and Strome NEED each other. I think they read each other well, but both have been effective when paired with others.
McKegg returned to Hartford.
Nils won the Lars Erik Sjoberg award for best rookie in camp. And this:
https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1447578374487121924?t=1YyPOqI1rEFP4_bRh1qnSw&s=19
Never mind!
https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1447579337331445766?t=rDbnCXVyxvsmnDgvhNxFLw&s=19
https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1447579709634760704?t=b67epTXLODZdahihegGYKw&s=19
https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/1447581575642820613?t=LBQVVLUZiG68aMGiNPK87A&s=19
Only six?
https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1447584426410582020?t=Yi3SIx4CggWE7kPX0O7kOA&s=19
Maybe Fox gets the C before the home opener?
Three for home games, and the other three for road games.
Tinordi-Nemeth as the 3rd pairing in practice…. and Dryden Hunt in the lineup over Kravy/Gauthier. Interesting. Looks like they’re going balls out for game 1….
Will Jacob be named captain?
Will Chris be accepting of Jacob’s leadership role ?
Will Kelly finally tell Artemi that Igor is the baby’s real father?
Find out next week on the days of our lives…
If the Rangers should win the cup which alternate captain does Bettman address to come get the Stanley Cup? Asking for a friend?
Someone ripped the ‘A’ from Black and Decker’s jersey.
This is getting ridiculous.
6 alternates?!
Just name a captain with 2 alternates and move along.
Keep it simple for crying out loud
New age. Everyone gets a ribbon. No troll left behind.
Alternate Captains come get the the Stanley Cup 🤔
Alternate Captain with the most gold stars come get the Stanley Cup!
Kenny is sharper than Sam at this point in time, but he’s similar in his hesitancy to criticize zebras, name names of Ranger error-makers or to speak his considerable hockey mind with abandon. Maloney’s a good foil. He can’t help himself from being honest. Now and then, you can tell by his sheepishly inflective voice that he worries that he’s gone too far. Dolan, after all, has a rep for chitcanning announcers who are too straightforward in their criticisms.
Captain Vacancies
NYR, Buff., Cal., Columbus, Ariz, Ott., and Sea.
other non playoff teams have Captains named recently (past 2 years): Van., San Jose, Det and NJD.
Sam way too often lately drifts off to doing color instead of describing the play in front of him and misses too much, too late.
Gallant and Drury aren’t responsible for Quinn and Gorton dragging this out, but it’s becoming anticlimactic. Enough already. I think it’ll be Fox on the night of the home-opener. Trouba’s play just hasn’t been strong enough yet. Kreider’s too quiet and streaky. Zibanejad’s too quiet and not feisty enough. Panerin was never really a consideration and he doesn’t seem to want it. Strome would be fine if he was signed. Maybe it’ll be him.
I still see many Captains and Alternates across the league who make sense for their franchises. NYR choices confuse the hell out of me.
coos
It is my one main complaint with Sam. I overlook everything else because he is such a nice guy 🤔
It’s a spit in the face to the vets who could clearly fill the role
Team saying “you aren’t worthy”.
Pompous and can cause demoralized group full of resentment.
It aggravates me when I hear the roar of the crowd and a big hit down in the corner of my screen and it’s never mentioned by this dandy duo.
AND both are SUDDENLY on the grit and muscle bandwagon, following the latest corporate script.
Right on.
They work off the script
It’s been that way since Joe came on.
JD did the same. It’s not just Joe. JD was the original shill. The last color commentator to tell it like it was, was Espo.
I’ve supported drury all summer
This 6 Alternate thing really has me irked
Of course in any interview the players will be PC “we are all leaders yada yada “. But deep inside you know it’s a joke to them too.
Why do the rangers have to do stupid crap like this ? Which team has had any success in recent memory without a captain?
Everything seemed so Copacetic after the Mika signing.
And now they have to go and totally redeem themselves (dumb and dumber quote)
Nothing says Captains are not important more than naming 6 alternates to shut up the fan base
Six? Why not give everyone who makes this roster an A and call it a day? Goalies included. That way nobody gets upset. Geez….
Panarin…”Stromeo no you’re captain this week.”
We just named 47 new alternative captains! We are officially retarded!
e unum, pluribus
57 varieties of Captains. The NY Ketchups
Bank to teller: ‘We’ve decided to make you a vice-president. Here are your new business cards.’
‘ Nifto. Do I get a raise?’
‘No, same old $9 per hour.’
Captain to Torts: ‘The boys have asked me to approach you with something.’
Torts: ‘F the boys.’
https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1447615901667364866?s=21
Thought Krapsoft was odd man out. Good for GG and Dreary.
be real curious what they said to kravtsov and how long he will be down there
No more youngsters in bottom 6 save got 5 year vet Flip Chesdle. GG is here to win not change diapers.
We are officially Baskin-Robbins of the NHL.
could just be roster limit shenanigans
Let’s hope kravy goes down with a good attitude like Chytil did a couple years ago. He will be back.
Nothing wrong with seasoning the right way. Getting hurt in preseason May have been what did it. Plus waiver issues
Barron knocking at the door too. But it’s not like he’s overstayed the AHL welcome yet either. Spent most time in college. Them both playing top minutes in all situations down there will be good for them.
Makes me want to see some Wolfpack games
Goat Boy gets a reprieve
Carp whining with the wash women on the athletic boards
https://twitter.com/rickcarpiniello/status/1447621055187726338?s=21
I doubt it’s for too long. Kravtsov especially. For no other reason but money. He can make much more than $925K playing in Russia. Let alone $70K playing in Hartford. As per Brooks, he still has his KHL clause.
As far as not playing kids on bottom 6. Barron was projected to be exactly that at the moment. Bottom 6. While I understand they prefer to keep Hunt as number 13, what about Gauthier instead of Barron? It’s all numbers game again. My hope that there is something in the works to trade some of those waiver eligible guys.
Barron is a bottom 6 forward. Goat boy, Flip and Crapsoft are not.
Do we want to win games against cup contenders or play the “potential” game for another season?
This roster can make the playoffs if GG plays a complete roster which may mean young unproven offensively focused high picks aren’t in the mix every night.
Not sure what carp doesn’t get
Combination of assets management (waiver risk) but much more importantly getting these future important pieces a ton of minutes in important situations
The press box and practice squad is not what they need.
Kravy needs 20 min a game and PP time not 11 min a night
Goat boy or hunt can be a 13th forward and it won’t stem their development.
Sheesh. You’d think carp has been around long enough to have seen this issue before.
Glad Reaves seems to have avoided catastrophic ligament damage
A testament to him being in great shape to have the stabilizers and flexibility to not blow out his knee or ankle
I assume they are working hard to move Goat Boy and Selma. The problem is everyone else knows it too. Maybe they get mid to late round draft picks for them. (3rs to 6th)
Could be. But at some point they may need to just cut bait
If you go by what you saw in pre-season games (obviously we have no way of knowing what practice was like), they kept the right guys on the big squad. It does make me suspect that a trade is in the offing, however.
This might send the brunch crying into the streets but they need another 4th liner who can throw hands. Can’t rely on one guy in case of injury. I know Tinordi can play the role. Prefer a forward for Reaves insurance and knowing that you always need more than one. Holding on to Geerston would have made sense
Wasn’t a fan of any Meeka contract over $8 mil per…still not. I have a distinct feeling the “rumoured” locker room divide continues now with that contract and the ridiculous no captain farce does as well.
Had a feeling in the off season that Kravtsov would be the early “odd man out” if the roster (kinda like Chytil a couple seasons ago). I did think it would be Barron over hunt that made it back then but hunt deserved his spot and I think they want Barron on the 3rd line longer term.
Definitely more moving parts yet to be established, and depth isn’t a bad thing at all.
My hope is they had a nice convo with Kravtsov. Him playing big minutes in Hartford with Barron will pay off for both of them in the long run.
St Pete
Yep, absolutely!!
JamesG,
your 11:41am post made me laugh so hard I almost fell off the chair
Moves are related to asset management …and maybe they want to see Baron and Kravtsov play together a bit
Bobbyo
My thoughts exactly!
I do think, my personal opinion only, that the keeping of a player due to waiver eligibility and the sending down of a player that outplayed the waiver eligible one is just as bad asset management…actually worse… as losing a lesser player on waivers.
So much for “earning” a spot
Messier Hadfield and Maloney just added as alternate captains
And Barron will get minutes as center in Hartford which he needs
@bobby02019 – I couldn’t agree more. Barron’s future with NYR is as a center-iceman. Wings are very crowded. I can see a scenario where Chytil is 2C, Rooney 4C and Barron 3C.
Can’t have Barron or Kravtsov as a thirteenth forward or a 4th liner. Simple as that. No more of this bottom six with guys that don’t fit the role stuff.
They don’t want to lose Hajek or Gauthier for nothing either. Some things to work out on D obviously but could be insurance for Nils since it’s only a matter of when he’s overmatched not if he’s overmatched on the NHL level.
Also, doubt Reaves is 100% and I doubt we’ll see him play 82 even though he very well could.
I think I hit the “like” button on too many comments it dilutes their meaning.
Similar to naming 6 captains
But I guess it’s a good problem I have likening some much of what I read here I’m an easy grader. To those that don’t get the like button don’t fret, your time will come. I don’t necessarily dislike you, it just may have been a miss or something I wasn’t totally feelin’.