Good that was awful to watch…i lasted 30 minutes and even that felt like 20 too much. Please tell me we aren’t going to be this bad??
They looked sloppy in all zones, the defense was as tough as in Da Beauty League and Shesterkin needs to get an eye test.
Just awful.
Hire Sather!!
Bdl
Didn’t see the game. Just the STATS. Saw that Trouba and Miller were both minus 4. Guessing since +- is a meaningless STAT, that they both played really well, and were victims of some bad luck?
cregg7
Maybe Jacques Martin is the defense whisperer. And we canned him after a very good season on that side of the bench.
I hope Turk gets his shhh. It together.
Admiral Akbar
This game has made me sick.
I’m getting this feeling that it’s gonna be a lonnnnng season. (Get ready to be leapfrogged by the Derbils this year, btw.)
CraigWeather
I don’t think its “overreacting” to be concerned with this atrocious start to the preseason as some may have suggested. I’m sorry, but the other teams are ALSO icing JV teams… not just us. So, when they beat us 4-0, 7-1…. thats a problem. We barely beat a complete that shell of a Bruins team the other night!
Bdl
Not telling anybody to not feel the way they do. Me, I’m not concerned at all Gallant is a good coach, with a very good track record. He has flat out said that he will using the first 4 games to give people a chance, and experiment with the lines.
St Pete Eli
Bdl
I can understand Gallant wanting to do that, but my may concern is in goal.
Bdl
Eli,
That’s with every team. If the goaltending is crap, so is the team. Igor has a lot to prove. I’m a believer.
Bdl
My concern is Meeka. If he is going to spend his O zone time on the perimeter, and only generate O off the rush, this team will not do any meaningful winning. Meeka needs to put his big boy pants on. Go to the net. Go to the dirty areas. Get knocked on his ass. Knock someone else on their ass. Things a true number one center/top 10 player do.
CraigWeather
BDL,
He’s too pretty for that.
Btw…. don’t forget to download DJ Mika’s latest single on spotify, or… grab a burger at his restaurant Brodernas.
Beezle
Not quite in the Weatherman camp…yet…but we do look like garbage out there and it is true that the other teams are experimenting too.
So Barron was 5-2 at the dot. Mika 7-5. THE 3-3. And then Chytil 4-5, Goodrow 4-6 and McKegg 4-7. The sad thing is 44% is an improvement for Chytil.
St Pete Eli
It’s like I said after the isles game the devils showed to play the Rangers came to watch. That’s not a good sign with a new coach behind the bench?
Beezle
TYM and all this time I thought the handle was a snowboarding reference 😉
Alex
Admiral
Long season or short season?
St Pete Eli
I thought Gallant said we would be seeing a tenacious forecheck am I missing something? Oh and by the way Tinordi is wasted space.
tommyG
I’ve been saying it from day one, trouba is not a good defensemen. Yes he is physical at times but my eye test tells me he is not a good skater and tends to run around in his own zone and regarding Miller, not impressed with his game either. I understand it takes time on the backend to reach the ceiling but I don’t see what the rangers saw in Miller. It comes down to the rangers having done a poor job of drafting. The only thing that has saved these picks is they got lucky in the lottery 2 years in a row. Hopefully the new guy they hired to run the drafting and development of player personnel does a better job than Clark has done.
tommyG
BDL, Meeka is what he is, not going to change and why I would not give him a expensive long term deal.
Old Ranger Fan
Let’s see how the last three go. There’s plenty of time to panic. No need to climb out onto the ledge yet. Miller is a concern to me. I could see him headed to Hartford if this continues when the games count. He will make the team based on the first half of last season-not what he has done since.
tommyG
also, not sold on Shesterkin, he played for the best team in the khl which helped him look great. My eye test tells me the islanders drafted the better russian goalie.
Beezle
Crazy money still out there … Q. Hughes, all 5’10” 180lbs of him, 6yr @ $7.85M per. 129 games 11G 86A.
Must be nice to be 21. That must be this half * blog’s problem – everyone is 26 instead of 21!
bobbyo2019
My eyes tell me the Islanders play much better team defense
cooscoos
Re-Posts from the witching hours for your viewing pain or pleasure:
Everybody blames Trouba for Miller’s screw-ups, even the Devil announcers. Is everyone blind? ‘All the tools’ my Azz!
‘Have fun out t here,’ my azz. I worked all day and I”LL have fun out there, not you! This is your job. Think and sweat! Gallant sounding too much like Pierre for my taste.
bobbyo2019
Ledge is full in preseason..new coach ..new systems and new players equal slow start …the only thing Gallant knows so far is he needs to play Breadman …a lot …if he wants goals
cooscoos
‘Doctor, my eyes-
Tell me what is wrong
Was I unwise to leave them open for so long?’
cooscoos
I would employ structure on everyone other than Bread and the DJ. Let them wander.
cooscoos
Chytil is dopey-looking for a reason. He’s dopey.
tomk19
Rangers seem poised to make a significant trade if not a blockbuster.
tommyG
bobbyo2019, no doubt islanders play a better defense but I haven’t yet seen the islanders goalie give up any softies since he has played for the islanders, can’t say that about Shesterkin, has tendencies to give up softies.
tommyG
tomk19, that’s what the Drury needs to do, make trades to mold this team into a contender.
cregg7
So far my expectations for Goodrow seem to have been too high
Let’s hope the vet can ramp it up when meaningless preseason games are over
Faceoff numbers are wierd. I could have sworn I saw the win more faceoffs than 3
Granted I didn’t watch the third period
cregg7
Goat boy is making a case to stick around
He may be able to mold his game to be a 4 th liner who fan draw some penalties and pot an occasional goal while pressuring the other team with forecheck and speed through the neutral zone.
I hope they don’t give up on him.
Maybe then we aren’t playing a heavy team or if it’s b2b he plays instead of Reaves.
CraigWeather
Can we just end the Chytil experiment already?
He’s made for the big rink. How management can’t see that is beyond me. The game gets tighter, he disappears.
I’m a firm believer the team has been trying to make him into something he isn’t bc he was “part of the rebuild” and Lias never worked out….. so… they had to bear SOME fruit from that draft.
Wicky
Not concerned at all at this point.
cooscoos
i before e except after c. Ain’t that weird?
cooscoos
Chytil nervous that Coach will make him a winger and he’ll have to check somebody every now and again.
cregg7
Haha. My bad Coos. Fat fingers little phone
cregg7
Chytil flashing a decent game in my view. But maybe winter is best. He has wheels and size.
Needs to learn how to use his frame to be better at taking pucks away from the opposition
cooscoos
cregg – but…you followed the rule… 🙂
cregg7
Winger not winter
cooscoos
The Winger of our Discontent
bobbyo2019
Is the varsity playing tonight?
tomk19
Winger is coming.
St Pete Eli
Wick
Love your optimism I needed it after listen to Danyeko last night. Huska’s glove hand is a day late and a dollar short!
cooscoos
Danyenko sure has come a long way riding a modicum of talent. He does deserve respect, though, for beating the grips of the demon rum.
James G
What happened?! I didn’t see the game. Was it all Tinordi’s fault?
Mika scored and Nils got the assist so at least Twitter fans (currently at brunch) are happy 😆
cooscoos
Reaves vs Wilson
Tinordi vs McIlrath
ilb2001
Looks like it may be really difficult to maintain proper social distancing on the ledge this season…..
SN
Remember AV’s first games on the Western Road trip? Can’t be worse than that, can it? I mean, seriously, can it??
.
Led to Beer-on’s retirement after the Sharks’ Hertl had a Hattie including a between the legs, a la Marek Milek, goal.
ilb2001
Miller and Trouba -4? I thought Jones had a tough night. Tried to push something that wasn’t there all evening. Gallant didn’t look happy. But then again, unless he smiles, it’s his baseline look 🙂
SN
This roster is turning over and being built for spring not fall so could be some ups and downs early on. Still a log jam at forward.
SN
I’ll give Mika a preseason pass but hard to imagine he will become more physical in his walk year. They should put him on RW opposite Bread with Stromeo. Would better balance lines for two way hockey for other 3 lines.
Never happen
Eli – agree but don’t expect that line to dump and chase
St Pete Eli
SN
I know right!
tomk19
Kreider and the coaches need to better define his role on this team and it can’t change every 20 games or so.
He’s not known for his defensive play. He used to score a lot on breakaways so that his speed was a weapon. He’s good at screening the goalie on the power play and deflecting pucks in. He’s big and string enough that he’s capable of being a physical presence, but that part of his game seems to come and go. Agree with Wick that the Carey Price collision all those years ago messed with his head. I want to see Kreider engaged on a more consistent basis and having more fun. I don’t see him as a captain and he’s not the most important player on this team, but he’s a leader and has a big role to play, even if he lands on the 3rd line.
Bdl
Kreider should be the least of everybody’s worries. He’s gonna give you 25. He’s going to be the best puck retriever on the team. He’s going to do the dirty work in front of the net. Year in, year out, that’s what you get from Kreider.
tomk19
BDL-100% agree that they have bigger issues, but Kreider can, should, (and I believe) will be more consistent and will make the team better.
Old Ranger Fan
I guess a lot of the vets didn’t want to travel to Boston. Lots of guys trying to make the team are playing which kind of makes sense. Let’s see if they can hold them to 3 or 4 tonight. They also will have a hard time time scoring with no Beard or Zika. 3 to 1 would be a moral victory. More likely 4 or 5. I’ll be out and check it out on the DVR with liberal use of the FF feature.
SN
Would like to see Kreider opposite Bread for a spell. He could retrieve pucks and occupy D in front to create more space for Bread.
Meeka’s game fits well with good passers cause he has a shoot first mentality. Laffy would be a natural, maybe Kakko or Goodrow on other side.
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Coffee
Good that was awful to watch…i lasted 30 minutes and even that felt like 20 too much. Please tell me we aren’t going to be this bad??
They looked sloppy in all zones, the defense was as tough as in Da Beauty League and Shesterkin needs to get an eye test.
Just awful.
Hire Sather!!
Didn’t see the game. Just the STATS. Saw that Trouba and Miller were both minus 4. Guessing since +- is a meaningless STAT, that they both played really well, and were victims of some bad luck?
Maybe Jacques Martin is the defense whisperer. And we canned him after a very good season on that side of the bench.
I hope Turk gets his shhh. It together.
This game has made me sick.
I’m getting this feeling that it’s gonna be a lonnnnng season. (Get ready to be leapfrogged by the Derbils this year, btw.)
I don’t think its “overreacting” to be concerned with this atrocious start to the preseason as some may have suggested. I’m sorry, but the other teams are ALSO icing JV teams… not just us. So, when they beat us 4-0, 7-1…. thats a problem. We barely beat a complete that shell of a Bruins team the other night!
Not telling anybody to not feel the way they do. Me, I’m not concerned at all Gallant is a good coach, with a very good track record. He has flat out said that he will using the first 4 games to give people a chance, and experiment with the lines.
Bdl
I can understand Gallant wanting to do that, but my may concern is in goal.
Eli,
That’s with every team. If the goaltending is crap, so is the team. Igor has a lot to prove. I’m a believer.
My concern is Meeka. If he is going to spend his O zone time on the perimeter, and only generate O off the rush, this team will not do any meaningful winning. Meeka needs to put his big boy pants on. Go to the net. Go to the dirty areas. Get knocked on his ass. Knock someone else on their ass. Things a true number one center/top 10 player do.
BDL,
He’s too pretty for that.
Btw…. don’t forget to download DJ Mika’s latest single on spotify, or… grab a burger at his restaurant Brodernas.
Not quite in the Weatherman camp…yet…but we do look like garbage out there and it is true that the other teams are experimenting too.
So Barron was 5-2 at the dot. Mika 7-5. THE 3-3. And then Chytil 4-5, Goodrow 4-6 and McKegg 4-7. The sad thing is 44% is an improvement for Chytil.
It’s like I said after the isles game the devils showed to play the Rangers came to watch. That’s not a good sign with a new coach behind the bench?
TYM and all this time I thought the handle was a snowboarding reference 😉
Admiral
Long season or short season?
I thought Gallant said we would be seeing a tenacious forecheck am I missing something? Oh and by the way Tinordi is wasted space.
I’ve been saying it from day one, trouba is not a good defensemen. Yes he is physical at times but my eye test tells me he is not a good skater and tends to run around in his own zone and regarding Miller, not impressed with his game either. I understand it takes time on the backend to reach the ceiling but I don’t see what the rangers saw in Miller. It comes down to the rangers having done a poor job of drafting. The only thing that has saved these picks is they got lucky in the lottery 2 years in a row. Hopefully the new guy they hired to run the drafting and development of player personnel does a better job than Clark has done.
BDL, Meeka is what he is, not going to change and why I would not give him a expensive long term deal.
Let’s see how the last three go. There’s plenty of time to panic. No need to climb out onto the ledge yet. Miller is a concern to me. I could see him headed to Hartford if this continues when the games count. He will make the team based on the first half of last season-not what he has done since.
also, not sold on Shesterkin, he played for the best team in the khl which helped him look great. My eye test tells me the islanders drafted the better russian goalie.
Crazy money still out there … Q. Hughes, all 5’10” 180lbs of him, 6yr @ $7.85M per. 129 games 11G 86A.
Must be nice to be 21. That must be this half * blog’s problem – everyone is 26 instead of 21!
My eyes tell me the Islanders play much better team defense
Re-Posts from the witching hours for your viewing pain or pleasure:
Everybody blames Trouba for Miller’s screw-ups, even the Devil announcers. Is everyone blind? ‘All the tools’ my Azz!
‘Have fun out t here,’ my azz. I worked all day and I”LL have fun out there, not you! This is your job. Think and sweat! Gallant sounding too much like Pierre for my taste.
Ledge is full in preseason..new coach ..new systems and new players equal slow start …the only thing Gallant knows so far is he needs to play Breadman …a lot …if he wants goals
‘Doctor, my eyes-
Tell me what is wrong
Was I unwise to leave them open for so long?’
I would employ structure on everyone other than Bread and the DJ. Let them wander.
Chytil is dopey-looking for a reason. He’s dopey.
Rangers seem poised to make a significant trade if not a blockbuster.
bobbyo2019, no doubt islanders play a better defense but I haven’t yet seen the islanders goalie give up any softies since he has played for the islanders, can’t say that about Shesterkin, has tendencies to give up softies.
tomk19, that’s what the Drury needs to do, make trades to mold this team into a contender.
So far my expectations for Goodrow seem to have been too high
Let’s hope the vet can ramp it up when meaningless preseason games are over
Faceoff numbers are wierd. I could have sworn I saw the win more faceoffs than 3
Granted I didn’t watch the third period
Goat boy is making a case to stick around
He may be able to mold his game to be a 4 th liner who fan draw some penalties and pot an occasional goal while pressuring the other team with forecheck and speed through the neutral zone.
I hope they don’t give up on him.
Maybe then we aren’t playing a heavy team or if it’s b2b he plays instead of Reaves.
Can we just end the Chytil experiment already?
He’s made for the big rink. How management can’t see that is beyond me. The game gets tighter, he disappears.
I’m a firm believer the team has been trying to make him into something he isn’t bc he was “part of the rebuild” and Lias never worked out….. so… they had to bear SOME fruit from that draft.
Not concerned at all at this point.
i before e except after c. Ain’t that weird?
Chytil nervous that Coach will make him a winger and he’ll have to check somebody every now and again.
Haha. My bad Coos. Fat fingers little phone
Chytil flashing a decent game in my view. But maybe winter is best. He has wheels and size.
Needs to learn how to use his frame to be better at taking pucks away from the opposition
cregg – but…you followed the rule… 🙂
Winger not winter
The Winger of our Discontent
Is the varsity playing tonight?
Winger is coming.
Wick
Love your optimism I needed it after listen to Danyeko last night. Huska’s glove hand is a day late and a dollar short!
Danyenko sure has come a long way riding a modicum of talent. He does deserve respect, though, for beating the grips of the demon rum.
What happened?! I didn’t see the game. Was it all Tinordi’s fault?
Mika scored and Nils got the assist so at least Twitter fans (currently at brunch) are happy 😆
Reaves vs Wilson
Tinordi vs McIlrath
Looks like it may be really difficult to maintain proper social distancing on the ledge this season…..
Remember AV’s first games on the Western Road trip? Can’t be worse than that, can it? I mean, seriously, can it??
.
Led to Beer-on’s retirement after the Sharks’ Hertl had a Hattie including a between the legs, a la Marek Milek, goal.
Miller and Trouba -4? I thought Jones had a tough night. Tried to push something that wasn’t there all evening. Gallant didn’t look happy. But then again, unless he smiles, it’s his baseline look 🙂
This roster is turning over and being built for spring not fall so could be some ups and downs early on. Still a log jam at forward.
I’ll give Mika a preseason pass but hard to imagine he will become more physical in his walk year. They should put him on RW opposite Bread with Stromeo. Would better balance lines for two way hockey for other 3 lines.
Never happen
Bread-Stromeo-Meeka (or flip center/RW)
Laffy-Chytil-Kreider
Goodrow-Baron-Kakko
Blais-Rooney-Reeves
SN,
I don’t mind that one at all. No Kravtsov, but well balanced.
I have a hard time believing Zibanejad can be effective retrieving pucks alone the boards?
Would much rather see below and Chytil traded
Panarin-Stromeo-Kakko
Laffy-Zibanejad-Kreider
Goodrow-Baron-Kravtsov
Blais-Rooney-Reeves
Eli – agree but don’t expect that line to dump and chase
SN
I know right!
Kreider and the coaches need to better define his role on this team and it can’t change every 20 games or so.
He’s not known for his defensive play. He used to score a lot on breakaways so that his speed was a weapon. He’s good at screening the goalie on the power play and deflecting pucks in. He’s big and string enough that he’s capable of being a physical presence, but that part of his game seems to come and go. Agree with Wick that the Carey Price collision all those years ago messed with his head. I want to see Kreider engaged on a more consistent basis and having more fun. I don’t see him as a captain and he’s not the most important player on this team, but he’s a leader and has a big role to play, even if he lands on the 3rd line.
Kreider should be the least of everybody’s worries. He’s gonna give you 25. He’s going to be the best puck retriever on the team. He’s going to do the dirty work in front of the net. Year in, year out, that’s what you get from Kreider.
BDL-100% agree that they have bigger issues, but Kreider can, should, (and I believe) will be more consistent and will make the team better.
I guess a lot of the vets didn’t want to travel to Boston. Lots of guys trying to make the team are playing which kind of makes sense. Let’s see if they can hold them to 3 or 4 tonight. They also will have a hard time time scoring with no Beard or Zika. 3 to 1 would be a moral victory. More likely 4 or 5. I’ll be out and check it out on the DVR with liberal use of the FF feature.
Would like to see Kreider opposite Bread for a spell. He could retrieve pucks and occupy D in front to create more space for Bread.
Meeka’s game fits well with good passers cause he has a shoot first mentality. Laffy would be a natural, maybe Kakko or Goodrow on other side.
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The ‘Wrath: Another great Ranger pick.
Boy I hope we’ll see McKegg next game again! Just gotta get another good look at him!
McKegg, you never know he just may turn the corner with a few more good looks?
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After seeing Geersten last night it is easy to understand why the big club is a pipe dream.
Rangers’ record this season:
68-7-7. That’s 143 points . Book it.