Rangers-3, Flyers-4

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Good morning, boneheads!

I was preparing the Go Time Post yesterday and thought to myself- how are they supposed to compete when there are too many borderline NHLers and pure AHLers in the lineup? And that was before they announced Miller news.

The answer is, you can’t. There are some good stories here and there, but there is a reason why players play in big leagues, and why others become journeymen at best.

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301 responses to “Rangers-3, Flyers-4”

  1. jpp Avatar

    Winnipeg just hired lowrys dad as an assistant coach. I doubt Lowry leaving

  2. jpp Avatar

    So regarding Mika and the panthers

    Tax free
    Warm weather
    Nightlife scene he can DJ
    Will probably need a 1c when barkov leaves via UFA

    Is barkov UFA summer of 22’ as well as Mika?

  3. James G Avatar
    James G

    Agree with Minx. They’re 6 points back of Pitt and Philly. By the time they have their starting roster back on the ice there will be about 20 games left and that’s if all goes well. Not impossible but not likely unless there’s some kind of dramatic turn around not just for them but for one of the two teams from PA.

  4. jpp Avatar

    The. more games we, jersey, and buffalo win

    The greater the chance we have to make a late season push

  5. jpp Avatar

    It may mean jersey and buffalo in the race with you, but it means they’ve been taking points from the top 4 teams, making the points requirement to get in a lesser number the rangers may be able to reach

    If Boston, philly, wash, Pitt or isles won most of their games with buffalo and jersey, ns make it really hard to reach the pt numbers I will take to be in the top 4

  6. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    I could be wrong it’s happened a few times before lol, but they aren’t making the playoffs. Look at the team they are icing tonight and reassure they have a chance?

  7. James G Avatar
    James G

    Bobby, did I ever answer your question about Tony D? I’m not sure what equal value is on him at this point. But I know it isn’t going to be an every day RHD.

  8. Admiral Akbar Avatar
    Admiral Akbar

    Lol @ James 10:12:

    “Kravtsov playing x-box in KHL”

    Yup

  9. jpp Avatar

    I think I’m safe to disclosure now

    That’s my initial thought when I saw the schedule Before the season started is we are most likely Lotto bound bc we have 5 playoff teams in our division.

    So I was bracing for this from the get go. I didn’t assume we’d have the type of off ice issues we’ve had or that Mika would be ice cold.

  10. Scottsdale Ranger Avatar
    Scottsdale Ranger

    James, was just informed by my dad about your mom. My belated condolences. I don’t read every single post on here because of lack of time so I miss some stuff. You’re one of the best dudes on the blog.

    On a lighter note, I’m totally with you on the anti-Quinn train.

  11. bobbyo2019 Avatar
    bobbyo2019

    I would be content with a bottom 6 winger with size for Tony D

  12. jpp Avatar

    Now I get to see if they surprise me and find a way to get Back into the hunt And give us some excitement the last 3 months of the season.

    Seasons over in 3 months boys. ‘Playoffs’ begin now for this team

  13. bobbyo2019 Avatar
    bobbyo2019

    making playoffs will be tough and will hinge on Zibanajad performance… not sure either Philly or Washington is a lock for top 4 …Washginton looks old and slow and Philly defense/goaltending hasnt been great …. More worried about Pitt who is sure to make another personnel move …I think Bs and Isles are locks

  14. Gravy Avatar
    Gravy

    Still waiting for BDL’s plan after trading Mika. All I see is hypotheticals. James is asking reasonable questions.

    It’s easy to say trade him, no one will argue if it’s part of the plan to make the team better. Same way they were right to trade Stepan. But it can’t be just because, or he’s not the ideal 1C. I listed UFA centers. None of them are better, or even will be good value, or their age is a limitation (Getzlaf, Krejci, etc.). That means you need to trade for another C, which means you’re giving up wings or D prospects.

  15. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    I have thoughts on why GM’s are avoiding D’Angelo but I will keep it off the blog. Having said that I believe you all know the reason.

  16. jpp Avatar

    There is no way in HELL I am signing Mika after this.

    He would need to go on a tear from now until next April

    Or he needs to take 6.5 just like Kreider And be he 2C

    What’s the plan. The plan is not to get locked in to a crazy contract with Mika bc you think you have too

    Kreocji can 2 years would do wonders for some of the guys on this team.

    But eichel, barkov. There are plays

    Sorry I’m not signing Mika with NMC based upon the inconsistencies. That is the recipe for letting this whole rebuild and decade be tragic

  17. jpp Avatar

    Sorry

    Mika
    Bennett
    Lowry

    Is no different or better than step/brass/and whoever

    You got a 2C and 2 3cs, or maybe even a 2C, 3c, and a winger

  18. SN Avatar
    SN

    I know we don’t have time on our side, but JD does. He is relatively new and has continually spoke the ‘long road’ as the path to cup contention. Could see them sitting idle as expansion and covid prevents moves. Butch would be first to go IMHO.
    .
    There are not a list of two way centers because everyone wants them. Need to find the 3C being blocked like Mika was or a younger alternative in the minors.

  19. SN Avatar
    SN

    Winny hired Lowry’s dad? Didn’t they also use DeBois dad as a consultant?
    This is worse than College hoops

  20. bobbyo2019 Avatar
    bobbyo2019

    Mika with Bennett and Lowry is a solid upgrade just for the fact we would have more size down the middle and more importantly win some damn faceoffs

  21. SN Avatar
    SN

    Mika hits Miami so he can dj had me LOLing

  22. SN Avatar
    SN

    Glendenning is one of the best Face-off guys in the league; can he do anything else? Who was the center from the Caps who used to just take draws and then get off the ice.
    need get the soft puppies out of the middle if they want to take the next step.

  23. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Jpp
    I could see Zibanejad learning spanish?

  24. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Spanish?
    Beagle.

  25. jpp Avatar

    GMs lose their jobs and have a hard time getting hired after letting a Mika talent type get blocked on your team, traded, and popping for another team.

    The Mika trade wasn’t a strictly a hockey deal in any way. Melnyk didn’t want to pay Mika for his Inconsistencies, watched the hometown kid brassard have some big playoff moments for the rangers a 1a/b and brassard had a contract structure where the rangers paid a hefty bonus out before trading him to Ottawa so the real dollars brassard cost Ottawa and melnyk was the real reason that trade happened

  26. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    SN
    Beagle

  27. Gravy Avatar
    Gravy

    I wouldn’t mind have a 4C that is essentially a face off specialist that can maybe PK and not give you a heart attack defensively.

  28. Gravy Avatar
    Gravy

    I can just picture Krejci, Strome, Panarin and Fox trying the pass the puck into the net on a PP.

  29. SN Avatar
    SN

    Beagle was one but there was another guy; played out west early in career (Van?). Literally would leave the ice after the draw.

  30. SN Avatar
    SN

    name began with a K?

  31. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    SN
    Antoine Vermette?

  32. James G Avatar
    James G

    Glendening is still a servicabe PK guy and plays a low key responsible defensive game, SN.

    As for Washington are you thinking of Matt Hendricks? Maybe Brooks Laich?

  33. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    “His skill set is unique but some teams don’t wantto take a chance on him given the off the ice BS he mostly brings upon himself.” ??? Skating and Moviegoing while Republican?

  34. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Glendening? Another Gerund? We tried that.

  35. SN Avatar
    SN

    Kanoptka – wasn’t on Caps but isles and Ott amongst 10 other teams
    #2 all time FO% leader
    .
    #4 on list…Manny Maholtra

    https://records.nhl.com/records/skater-records/face-offs-since-2005-06/highest-faceoff-win-pctg-career

  36. SN Avatar
    SN

    If conservatively 50% of NHL skaters lean politically right (my guess is more given my time living with some hockey players in college), only 1, yes just 1 has been ‘blackballed’ for his views?
    Hmmm… why is that?

  37. James G Avatar
    James G

    Scottsdale, I really appreciate that, Bro. Thank you

  38. James G Avatar
    James G

    SN has a good point about JD. Again, I’ll remind everyone he inherited this GM and coach.

  39. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Maybe JD needs to go the reverse mortgage route with his inheritance?

  40. bobbyo2019 Avatar
    bobbyo2019

    They are gonna just love Tony in Seattle

  41. James G Avatar
    James G

    Gravy, I understand where BDL is coming from but at the end of the day I don’t think the player profile he’s describing is something they can acquire. Take a look at players who score around 50-60 points and play center full time while also posessing the qualities that Zibanejad isn’t known for.
    How many guys do you come up with? And how many of them are going to be available any time soon? Three guys come to mind from the last 2-3 years. O’Reilly, Kadri and Trocheck. That’s it.
    You’re not trading for someone like Toews. And you aren’t pulling an up and coming star that a team is happy with over to your team (Larkin, Horvat, Coutourier).
    Can’t find those guys as easy as we can describe them…

  42. cregg7 Avatar
    cregg7

    Scottsdale, who is your dad? Does he post here?

  43. cregg7 Avatar
    cregg7

    Imagine Barron turned out to be the center we need? Hope and pray!

  44. James G Avatar
    James G

    Couturier obviously is established. But I included him because he fits the profile.

  45. tomk19 Avatar
    tomk19

    We’re looking for Mark Messier. Got to draft that guy. Oops.

  46. tomk19 Avatar
    tomk19

    I’m exaggerating of course. Messier is one of the best all-time, from a different era. We haven’t had an opportunity to draft a generational, gritty center, but we still needed to draft more centers with the picks we had.

  47. James G Avatar
    James G

    The NHL was a different league back in those days but even the Messier teams had some guys that weren’t what you’d consider “tough to play against”. Luc Robitaile, Kovalev, Zubov, Nedved, Noonan, Amonte all played for the team at various times before during and after the Championship and contributed to success at times.
    Really the 94 team they iced for the playoffs and the OG Black and Blueshirt Rangers from the Torts era may have been the 2 toughest constructed rosters in the last 30 years. And the Black and Blue shirts didn’t succeed because while they were tough to play against, they lacked fire power..

  48. James G Avatar
    James G

    Cregg, Scottsdale’s dad is hard to miss. He literally uses the name “Scottsdale’s Dad” LOL.

  49. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    Blog darling Bennett got 14M TOI last night. Got 4 shifts in the third (Flames down 5-1) for 2:27, including on for a goal against.

    For ref:

    13 JOHNNY GAUDREAU
    23 SEAN MONAHAN

    Flames blog comments – Is Bennett related to Staal?

    “I still think Sam is dragging 13 and 23 down. Simon, in my opinion, is way better on that line, even though he doesn’t do much offensively. The numbers with Bennett on that line are really bad, he breaks up momentum because he can’t pass etc. I really just don’t get it. To me this is just as bad as scratching Leivo over Robinson.”
    “Bennett more times than not just gets in the way of 13 and 23”
    “Raising Bennett’s trade value is all I can think of.”
    “johhny was off to a great start to the season….. until Bennett joined his line.”
    “playing Bennett with 13 and 23 just proves he is not a top player in the NHL. He just looks confused most of the time.

    (emphasis added)

  50. bobbyo2019 Avatar
    bobbyo2019

    good news on Bennett ….that means the price may come down. I don’t think the Rangers would be putting him in top 6 to begin with but he would be a great addition to bottom 6

  51. Gravy Avatar
    Gravy

    But Bennett > no ADA and no Bennett

  52. Gravy Avatar
    Gravy

    Good thing fans are allowed back tonight. Having crowd noise was distracting.

  53. Norm Merton Avatar
    Norm Merton

    Fast now on a line with Svechnikov and Aho. When will these NHL coaches learn from us that you Can. Not. play him on the first line 🙂

  54. bobbyo2019 Avatar
    bobbyo2019

    Quickie was on the powerplay the other night…Wicky must have loved that

  55. Norm Merton Avatar
    Norm Merton

    Scored on it, too.

  56. James G Avatar

    Bobby are you saying Bennett will have to compete with Blackwell for top six minutes??

  57. Norm Merton Avatar
    Norm Merton

    Ooh, is Blackwell going to emerge as the new whipping boy? He is undersized, after all, and works hard every shift.

  58. James G Avatar

    LOL, Gravy. that fans comment just made me laugh aloud in my office.

  59. James G Avatar

    Sign on Norm’s classroom door right now: “Gone Fishin’”

  60. James G Avatar

    Fast on the PP is nothing. Calder favorite Kirill Kaprizov is playing on the Wild’s top line w/ Zucc…

  61. bobbyo2019 Avatar
    bobbyo2019

    LOL James…I’m saying Quinnie’s son is gonna take a ride to Hartford

  62. Norm Merton Avatar
    Norm Merton

    Students are quizzing today, James, so I can do just about anything. Who proctors? Testing them on CRT because they annoyed me early this week.

  63. cregg7 Avatar
    cregg7

    Funny about Scottsdales dad

    My brain when skimming must stop reading after the first word. 😂

  64. jpp Avatar

    Wanted to articulate alittle on no chance in HELL I’d resign Mika after this

    1. I’m assuming he’s looking that big ticket top 10 center contract 9-10per long term. With NMC

    2. Track record of inconsistencies and huge difference between the player he is when his off season training is done right as opposed to not done nearly enough. Even if he has a good season next year, it doesn’t guarantee he’s given put in the off season work every summer to ensure we don’t see sloppy not confident bc he knows he’s not in his peak shape Mika, compared to elite level Mika.

  65. jpp Avatar

    I’m sick of watching our guys eventually handcuff us with their deals bc of offseason prep. I’ve never Been in a gym save to take a shower In 20 years, but I also didn’t don’t opportunity to play NHL for a living and make dumb loot

    If his struggles and track record and acceptance of yes I’ve been an up and down player, lead him to a resurgence next year and he’s willing to sign at 2nd line center money and limited clauses (abeit higher end 2C money 6.5-7m) Maybe there’s a path for him to re-sign

    But almost more important than the salary cap hit, there’s not a chance in HELL im locking myself into a NMC deal with the inconsistencies

  66. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    2+4=6-3= Fast.

  67. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    Miller back

  68. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Blackwell is fast becoming the new Fast? Quinn needs a Fast.

  69. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    Norm they still use CRTs out your way? Thought everyone used LCD/LEDs now.

  70. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    Saw what you did there, Gravy, 3:23.

  71. Scottsdale Dad Avatar
    Scottsdale Dad

    Cregg…..rarely post but when I do I’m not stressing over Elmont Expansion team

  72. jpp Avatar

    Haha taking shots at your own kid. I love it

    Scottsdale JR must of come up during the Icelanders dynasty years

  73. Scottsdale Ranger Avatar
    Scottsdale Ranger

    Tonight Boston will reverse the score from last night. Marchand hat trick.

  74. Scottsdale Ranger Avatar
    Scottsdale Ranger

    JPP,

    Born in 1979. Pre-6/14/1994 was rough for me living in Suffolk County. Oh da pain.

  75. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001
  76. cooscoos Avatar
    cooscoos

    THE looking exceptionally handsome and confident tonight. That’s what a hattie will do for you.

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