We needed a new post anyway. And it’s been pretty quiet around the league. And I haven’t annoyed you with the CBA stuff for some time.. And….whatever.
Anyway, when TomK posted this tweet below, I said that JD/Gorton just basically gave away that they are selecting Lafrenière.
“Don’t expect big $$ FA signing because they want to stay well under the cap for bonus purposes” is the clue.
I am not going to go into specifics of how performance bonuses are earned, and how they are paid ( by the league or by the team etc ). It’s complicated, but interesting, if you’re curious. For anyone interested, here is the best description of how it works that I use often. As you can see, the maximum possible bonuses earned can not exceed $2.85M, and it all depends on how a contract is negotiated. So it could be less, or not at all. Also, if you look carefully, more often than not these bonuses are unattainable regardless. Unless, of course, you are Gretzky.
But, whether they’re attainable or not makes no difference when you calculate available cap space. That’s because teams have to take into consideration potential performance bonuses, and as per CBA, are only allowed 7.5% bonus cushion each year. In other words, this season, any team is allowed to spend $87,612,500 including potential performance bonuses.
This is what the Rangers have now ( as per CapFriendly ) in terms of potential performance bonuses, as it is negotiated with each contract:
Shesterkin- $2.85M (only one with maximum possible!)
Kakko- $2.65M
Fox-$850K
Chytil-$350K
Gauthier-$300K
Lindgren-$212.5K
Total- $7,212,500
Vitaly Kravtsov, by the way, has a maximum possible earned bonus in his contract at $850K, so that would have to be added too. But he isn’t on their roster at this point.
So with that number, the Rangers would be able to spend in actual contracts $80,400,000 or just a million less than $81,500,00 cap limit.
Now, if they draft somebody at #2 or #3, and by all reports neither of them would be ready this season, it’s not a big deal. But if they draft Lafrenière, who will go right in the lineup as it seems, it’s a different story. There is no doubt that he will get maximum possible ELC, including $2,850,000 signing bonus.
That itself brings their actual spending ability down to $77,550,000. In actual available money, the number of just over $23M ( after buying out Hank and trading Staal ) all of a sudden becomes of just over $19M.
That’s why I think when Gorton mentioned he wants to stay well under the cap to allow room for potential performance bonuses, he pretty much gave away that they’re selecting Lafrenière.
Now, I could totally be wrong and they will select someone else. But this is my story and I’m sticking to it! 🙂
UPDATE (10/5): Click here to read Carp’s new article.
328 responses to “Performance Bonuses 101”
James,
You need to wait and see as to who the acquire before you get worked up over Strome. I think most rational thinking Rangers fans would agree with you about Strome, but only short term. They need to upgrade the center spot, or more specifically, the match up center spot. Zibanejad is not that guy. They are better off with him having the O freedom, instead of matching with Crosby all game. Strome is certainly not that guy, and Chytil is not close to being that guy. A big center who can do that is required if they want to take the next step.
Reading that over, I’m wondering if it should have been whom, instead of who. Coos?
OMG
Brooks said we’re getting Eichel
😉
A little salary cap twist on that Eichel trade. First, Buffalo is over $12M below the salary floor. And that is with Eichel counting against it. They may want to cut costs, but they still have to get to the floor somehow, unless they are folding the franchise. Two, Eichel is due for $7.5M signing bonus and only $2.5M salary. I am getting conflicting reports on the timing of signing bonuses. Some say they’ve already been paid, some say they are yet to be paid as usual, and that is at the beginning of FA. If he already got his bonus, you can forget about them trading him this year, no matter what he wants.
Now annoying: I. Told. You. So. And still do not believe. Too good to be true.
Not giving Strome qualifying offer was clear indication of intend to get much bigger fish. Will see how it works.
BDL, I’m not worked up. Honestly. I was just pointing out that Strome has been a good Ranger and is well liked. I would hope they’d only move on from him in order to get themselves a legitimate upgrade.
I like Stromeo he has been really good, but the Rangers do need a better match up center to free up the DJ. It’s pretty simple IMO and that guy should be centering the 3rd? Where does that put Laffy? On a checking line? Gorton has his work cut out for him. We cannot and I repeat cannot be a team with too much skill and not enough grit it will not translate to playoff success?
Eichel would be a big fish to land; $23M under cap; Eichel @ $10M; stromeo would have been close to $5M.
Still need to sign Pepe, Bev and another Dman unless they plan on playing one of the pups.
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what would it take? Mika?? if so, still need another pivot or two
Need a two way center playing with Laffy; but not sure how much D responsibility you want to throw in his lap in Year 1.
I like Bennett as a centre for lafreniere
Who is eichel?
Apparently the package for eichel will include Beverly, Miller, chytil, and buch +
Oops….
Forgot the “E5”
LOL yeah. That’s how you manage the cap for Eichel. You won’t have to pay Zibanejad because he’ll replace him. Won’t have to pay LAF, Kakko or Fox because they’ll be Sabres…Maybe they can throw Jimmy Vesey back to us so we have someone other than Gettinger left to play beside St. Eichel..
Wicky I’m buried in a sea of work days and poopy diaper nights…has there actually been talk around Calgary that they’ll move Bennett?
Craig Button was trying to project an estimation of just how many points LAF could put up in his rookie year in New York. Sadly/Ironically, he had the same line combos I assumed we’d see. IE-Kakko replaces Fast and Laf plays with Chytil and Gauthier.
Mika has a No something clause.
I don’t know what type or how strong the clause is.
But he had a clause kick in last summer
I wasn’t aware that posting about the all time low NBA finals ratings (down by 68%!!) was a controversial topic here.
James – Would you want Eichel years 24-29 @$10M per or Mika years 29 – 36 @ $9-10M per?
you mean this one?
The full six-game Lightning-Stars series averaged 2.15 million viewers, down 61% from last year’s seven-game final (5.47M) and the least-watched Cup Final since 2007.
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I have no issue with that part. What I don’t like is the alleged asking price for Eichel. I’m sure a bunch of people here think he can be had for Buch, ADA and Kravtsov…
Sounds like Gorton was doing his homework on Eichel. If Eichel is available, what’s the price? Ok, moving on.
“Broadway Jack”
SNN
Where you got those numbers?
Hey BDL- Are you enjoying the new era of the NY Giants? No wins involved. But there’s a whole new sense of pride in their losing. It’s a good era.
Edges response to someone asking if he thinks talks with buffalo are dead
‘I do not believe for a second that the Buffalo talks are dead. I don’t know if there’s been anything in the last 48 hours, but it isn’t a dead subject for either team.
Lafreniere was not on the table. Kakko was not on the table.
Miller, ADA, Buch, Chytil and Kravtsov were all on the table.’
Pens buying out Jack Johnson
And here’s the skinny skinny.
Nobody and I know nobody is offering up multiple pieces as good as the pieces we can put on the table.
And personally, I think getting multiple pieces that will upgrade multiple positions by like 2 grades will be benefit Buffalo much more so than having eichel alone, or doing a deal where they get one bonafide piece and 3 maybes.
Like let’s say LA is willing to trade the #2.
Honestly all it does is put buffalo in the same boat with the next guy who’s probably byfield and it’s gonna take him longer to get to the point eichel has gotten to and by that time he may already be eyeing a way out.
No, buffalo really needs like 4 good to really good players who are young who they have term on for 5-6 years.
They need to build a team, they don’t need a star
Because NHL’s “gargantuan” Stanley cup finals matchup between Tampa vs Dallas is the same as the NBA’s finals between Lakers vs Heat lol… those numbers cannot be fairly compared. NBA is mountains above NHL’s popularity…
But you keep doing you, SNN…
Buffalos best days and eras were when they had really good depth and guys who embraced building a team in buffalo.
That’s the winning MO in a place like buffalo. You have to draft well, build a young team, grow them together, play a smart system like torts and trotz, try to have more depth than most teams and win the old fashion way.
That goes over in buffalo, more so then a star driven middling team
Be wise and look at eichel the right way.
He’s The capital that will enable the Sabres to set up a foundation.
The idea of winning with eichel is a pipe dream. They should be better than they are, They aren’t, they aren’t gonna be good enough before eichels trade clause kicks in.
It’s called cutting off your nose to spite your face if they don’t face the reality
And I know some people think trading eichel would be the over-reaction.
But me, I think keeping him sinply due to the fact that you don’t want the mark of having to accept you landed a top player and couldn’t build a winner with him and had to ship him out to restore a foundation to your organization.
That’s a fatal over-reaction.
Cuz his value keeps going down from here
Here’s another angle.
Let’s say that bonus hasn’t been paid yet but will be in 4 days time and the Sabres are secretly resigned to trading him.
Would mean pegula wants a deal done before he has to pay that bonus
So basically this edge guy is stealing posts from here…got it
https://twitter.com/NYP_Brooksie/status/1313152486585372673?s=20
Thanks, CCCP. Was just going to post it. The new guy from LoHud mentioned it this morning. I wonder what made them re-think it and change the CBA though.
James
I’m pretty sure that Bennett has been rumoured to be available for a season or two, but you never know. I think he can be had.
Eklund says Kakko on the table and E3 is on the can
E1
I think I just found the answer. Traditionally, the QO deadline was set for Monday after the entry draft. This one was on the draft day. QO still can not be accepted until the UFA period opens on 10/9 at noon.
The only thing on Eklund’s table is what E3 produces on the can.
Has Eklund ever been right?
Did Carp retire?
James,
Carp has not retired. He’s on the every other week schedule for writing articles. You got one today, sooo, October 19th is his next one.
Ilb
Thank you for thanking cccp
Cccp
Eklund as posts on HF boards as some guy named edge.
As=also
If the Sabres haven’t been able to make the playoffs with Eichel maybe he is part of the problem. If the Rangers wind up having to let Mika walk how much better off are they after the move? Plus they have just dumped about half their future to get him. Seems a little like the Nash trade that emptied all the depth out of the system and necesitated other moves. Sather might do it but JG won’t. Sather was always chasing the shiny object. Gorton has a plan to follow.
You can say Craig Button here, but not Dick Button.
Thank you for thanking them for thanking me.
You can say Craig Button here, but not Shvantz Button.
Coos that’s nothing. Earlier SN said Big Johnson
Actually he said No to big Johnson.
Just want to thank everyone for thanking each other. You guys are the best.
Actually, it appears that you CAN say Shvantz Button, but not Di.k Button. How about that great old Shy-town linebacker, Shvantz Butt Kiss?
And a shout-out to ilb who freed me from moderation…. 🙂
JD used to call the litter box ‘Chateau BowWow.’ Always thought it should have been ‘Chateau Meow.’
That’s cuz “kids” read this blog 🙂
I’d like to acknowledge and thank those whom are seldom mentioned, but have decided not to do so.
James
Thank you for that, you’re welcome Minx!
New Kids on the (chopping) Block.
Major Kudos to the three Nobel MDs who, in effect, discovered methodology leading to effective testing and eventual cure for Hep C, a major killer world-wide. Wow!
Coos has been “woke” from moderation
😉
ilb is on the ball, as it were.
Was a time when you innocently went into moderation and stayed there for eternity, like a frisbee on the roof.
I used to love Kudos…the cookies and cream variety were outstanding.
They did away with the kudos though. Just like Frusen Glädjé. Don’t understand why anyone would hate on ice cream in a bullet shaped container that packed a good 850 calories a serving.
Must have been those people who declared a war on gluten some years ago.
How many boneheads are gluten free? I respect you guys. I couldn’t do what you do.
If I have my choice between being inflamed inside or never eating spaghetti and meatballs again? I take the inflammation.
If I have one wish for hank in terms of a new team
Pick a team that’s really sound structurally and defensively
You want a real chance to show yourself you still got it. Go to a team that’s not run and gun.
At one point they did this spin off kudos bowl. It was like in a to go cereal kind of packaging.
I had such OCD with that, I used to eat it by pulling each nut off one by one. I still remember it to this day
And by the way.
K’Andre is the guy I’d hate to lose. Really hate to love Vitali as well. But I want K’Andre to be a ranger for a long time.
I’d rather give up more value than K’Andre has than give him up
Kaapo’s im emotionally invested in.
So he might as well be McDavid to me.
And the only offer I’d consider for Lafreneire would have to include Brady Tkachuk ++++.
So kaapo and the 1st overall is a waste of time for buffalo to spend any more time asking for
After 3 second google search; the ratings were found on wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Cup_Finals_television_ratings
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%s are relative; suffice to say that sports outside of their usual viewing periods are faring horribly. My take is programming saturation and nobody wants to go up against football; college or pro.
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Another slow news day… where’s Rudy?
Rudy graduated from Notre Dame. Davey’s still in the Navy.
That was the 300th post. Does Coos get his performance bonus?
Would love to have Grabner back
Having seen this play out before in sports countless times
You know what softens the blow the most for a franchise and fan base who loses a franchise player. When the product they put out the next season actually produces more wins and more enjoyment for the fans.
You lose eichel, but if you bring a combo of another 5-6 guys this offseason who Contribute and fit and your existing players see spikes in their game bc it’s just a better all around team.
That’s what the sabres should be gunning. Most pro-longing the agony of this playing out.
What spend another season or two losing with this hanging over the franchises heads and fans getting even more fed up. Or re-boot right now.
Combo of the rangers being where they are at in their rebuild to be able to even send Buffalo the type of 5-8 piece package they are probably gonna put together and the number of free agents who are getting squeezed and are gonna be looking harbors in storms.
It’s an opportunity that’s gonna be gone if they don’t it know. The pieces the rangers are offering aren’t all gonna be there to choose from.
Get it done. Honestly believe it’s the best thing for Buffalo. Eichel s a stud but suddenly we got a bunch of big ticket items, that becomes our reality after this kind of trade. So it’s not like the rangers aren’t gonna be giving a lot of blood to make this happen.
Somewhere beyond the sea……….
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Hearing that a Devan Dubnyk trade to San Jose, as expected, has been completed and should be announced within the next hour.
Sabres traded top 6 center who was MVP of Stanley Cup champs soon after. They have no idea what they are doing
Seems to have been something of a paucity of PK goals since speedy Grabner departed, Karl.
Grabner,
Been there done that. Look forward, not backwards.
no to Grabner – not with that staal like eye injury
Sean Monahan, 3×6.75. Any takers?
What’s going to Calgary, BDL?
DeAngelo plus.
I’d probably take him if the price is right. Chytil will either have to be a part of that deal or move to the wing. And, most importantly, they’d desperately need a solid 3rd line matching center. With some snarl. Charlie Coyle like guy.
Brooks saying Josh Anderson a target.
I hope JD had a good look at Anderson’s medical records then.
Josh Anderson is also in a peculiar spot at the moment. His QO offer is $2.1M and he doesn’t have much to show from last season to get a raise from arbitrator.
Great art if this is indeed a drawing.
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Not a single player on Columbus’ roster with AAV of $6M or over. None. But they were ready to pay Panarin at least what he got in NY from what we heard.
Bdl
Monahan is 6.35
I’m with you, JPP. Having heard a lot of good things about K’Andre, I don’t want to lose him before we have a chance to see him play for our team. I think he may be a good one.
Hartland Monahan.
Bdl
Duh…you know where I’m at on him
Monaghan averaged over a point per game 2 seasons ago. $6M+ in a heartbeat. Turns 26yo this week. No brainer.
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Josh Anderson of 18-19? Yes. 19-20? Yikes
Anderson would almost certainly mean the end of Buchnevich with the Rangers.
There are about half a dozen forwards I’d love to see on the rangers this upcoming season (not all at once lol) and you guys are talking about two of them.
Be surprised if Buch is back
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