1-1 after 2? Not so fast!

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Good morning, boneheads!

That was a great game to watch, was it not? I will admit, I had my doubts the league will be able to pull this off. Kudos to everyone involved, we are all treated to some outstanding hockey.

Islanders fan, anyone? It’s a devastating loss if you are. They brought their best game. Running on all cylinders. Get a goal from the fourth line and dominating throughout. Get a 5 min PP, and Tampa loses one of their 11 forwards. Later on Tampa Bay loses their Conn Smythe candidate and has to play without Brayden Point for the rest of the game. And then you lose with 9 seconds to go and you are now in a big 2-0 hole. So, Islanders fan, anyone? Not me, but still….ouch

So how did Tampa Bay do it? They got a Vezina type performance from their Vezina winner goaltender, and two goals from their two elite players/game breakers. McDonagh pass was a thing of beauty too.

What happens to Brayden Point is crucial going forward though. I think they get through the Islanders without him. I am not convince they win the Cup if he can’t go.

One game on the schedule tonight:

Golden Knights (1) vs Stars (1), 8 PM start, TV-NBCSN

Not sure if you are following Pronman’s organizational rankings for 20-21, but he is now down to number 3 (Canucks), and only 2 teams remain, including the Rangers. They were number 1 last year.

91 responses to “1-1 after 2? Not so fast!”

  1. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    I keep correcting my own grammar. Proofread it next time, ilb. Dammit!

  2. 4everanger Avatar

    Since author comment doesn’t count, can I be first again? Double sweet (1st – Isles last seconds lost).

  3. SN Avatar
    SN

    McD has been very good all playoffs; would look great next to Tuba…good thing Hayek is able to slide in next to him

  4. Admiral Akbar Avatar
    Admiral Akbar

    Brayden Point’s availability aside; is there any concern the Fishsticks were allowed to dictate the style of play to their likeness?

  5. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    AA,
    And still lost.

  6. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    Concern? Yes, if you’re Trotz. They were able to dictate their style of play and are still down 0-2. No doubt Lightning will adjust. It’s far from over, but winning four out of five is not something I’d bet on.

  7. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    Vibing, BDL? I may need more coffee. 🙂

  8. Jim Rice (@JimjRice) Avatar

    Islanders potent offense on display once again. Big NO on Andy Greene, that horrendous turnover at the end of the game is not an anomaly.

  9. Admiral Akbar Avatar
    Admiral Akbar

    The Athletic calling for Fishsticks to sign Torey Krug…. then decide “where to have the parade.”

  10. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    Torey Krug my foot. Barzal needs a new contract. So do Pulock and Toews.

  11. The Wick Avatar
    The Wick

    Ilb
    It’s « conn » smyth

    😉

  12. The Wick Avatar
    The Wick

    Autocorrect…smythe

  13. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Watching NBCSN is like watching an islander love fest. The piles need to change their name to the this; the “NY Interference.”

  14. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    What are you talking about, Wicky? 🙂

  15. Scottsdale Ranger Avatar
    Scottsdale Ranger

    Lol James!

  16. The Wick Avatar
    The Wick

    I have zero problem with interference in hockey. If you’re skilled enough you’ll get around it or if you’re strong enough you’ll get through it.

    Either way, it’s better imo than the silly rules today that have every 4th liner trying to look like a goal scorer.

  17. The Wick Avatar
    The Wick

    Oh nuthin’ ilb

  18. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    Matt Martin had to stop running around after he had his butt handed to him by Luke Schenn, of all people. Had he continued, he would have to also dance with Maroon, Goodrow, Paquette, Cernak, and Bogosian. One of many reasons Lightning is different this year.

  19. James G Avatar
    James G

    Tampa has enough fire power without Point to take 2 of the next 5 if it came down to it.
    That must have been very disheartening for the islanders. I love it.

  20. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Wicky
    I never said I did or didn’t have a problem with interference, I just suggested a name change.

  21. TYM Avatar
    TYM

    I must say that Boomer’s son in law is having a very good playoff. I sure enjoyed that game…..well…..the ending of it anyway. I am not a big Tampa supporter but I am when they play against Uniondale.

  22. Old Ranger Fan Avatar
    Old Ranger Fan

    Interference is in the rule book. Either call it or take it out. Maybe make it like LAX and require the picks to be stationary. It would take some courage to set one of those picks on somebody like Reaves.

    Does Pronman have the Devils and Rangers rated 1 and 2(in no particular order)? Does the Rangers rating include Laffy since they haven’t picked him yet?

  23. James G Avatar
    James G

    If any of yous that have kids who are fans of Halloween and are interested in info on the yearly “haunted attractions” in upstate NY, we found out this morning that the headless horseman hayrides in Ulster will be open with drive through “hayrides” and socially distanced haunted house attractions.

  24. James G Avatar
    James G

    Headless Horseman. Not to be confused with Barry Trotz’s new haunted attraction “the neckless fisherman”

  25. bobbyo2019 Avatar
    bobbyo2019

    Hedman playoff MVP so far

  26. tomk19 Avatar
    tomk19

    Horseless Hedman?

  27. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    So 11 years after, the way it looks now, what would be your number one choice, Tavares or Hedman?

  28. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    ilb
    Is that a trick question?

  29. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    Not really, St. Pete. Just curious. I’m very happy with what the Rangers got that year. Kreider at 19. Can’t complain.

  30. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    ilb
    I was trying to be funny with the question because to me it’s obvious now, definitely Hedman. But If I was the GM with the 1st pick I probably would have taken Tavares.

  31. James G Avatar
    James G

    Taveres has never scored less than 24 goals and those were in his rookie year and another season where he was limited to 59 games.
    Rangers fans love giving him the meat grinder treatment for the same reason Hank critics love giving Hank the meat grinder treatment.
    Give me a top 6 center that can score at least 60 points a year any day. Plus, think of the entertainment value of convos between SN and I if we had Zika and JT on the same team lol

  32. SN Avatar
    SN

    James loves points, not Stanley Cups, let alone playoff series wins…

  33. Admiral Akbar Avatar
    Admiral Akbar

    Can’t go wrong with Hed or JT.

    Piles wish they had either one right now.

  34. James G Avatar
    James G

    Sounds like the Pens are going to trade Matt Murray. Not surprising considering his performance this past year. Puts a nice dent in my argument for goalie tandems.
    He does make about 4 million a season. That’s a lot of cash for a cap strapped team and a goalie who is often injured and sported an .899 sv % this season…

  35. James G Avatar
    James G

    LOL SN. JT has 30 points in 36 post season games in his career. Weren’t you just praising Miller for having 40-something in almost 80 games?
    This must be another one of those things that inquire your special and very personal insight on wall battles and how Nate MacKinnon is the only real center in the NHL.

  36. James G Avatar
    James G

    1. I don’t believe any one individual wins or loses a playoff series.
    2. Tavares is hardly a player I’d say I like. But at the same time his playoff appearances have been on some very very flawed teams that weren’t cut out for the post season. Add him to the right mix (where he doesn’t have to be the grinding center I assume people would prefer to see him be) and he’s just as valuable as Brayden Point or any center who isn’t overly physical or affected by the lack of space come post season time.

  37. Admiral Akbar Avatar
    Admiral Akbar

    JT would make a nice 2C on the Rangers.

  38. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Taveras has never been asked to be anything but a scorer. That’s why he’s not in the same breath as Crosby and other centers. Taveras is only valuable from the O blue line in.

  39. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Speaking of first overalls. Think the Devils would like a do over on Hirscher?

  40. SN Avatar
    SN

    challenge is sinking a chunk of your finite cap into players who are not playoff performers; not just talking about secondary PP assists; but play the whole rink.

  41. cooscoos Avatar

    Disliking Jon Cooper beaucoup, starting (but not ending) with the chi-chi spelling of his first name.

  42. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    My Islander/Confederate friend was moaning on Tues night phone call that he told his son back then that they screwed up by not taking Hedman….

    Mean while recently demoted Ensign Kirk with 9pts, +10 and 19:09 toi this playoffs. The TOI is heavily influenced by the CBJ ot game. Scoring per 60 (5v5) he is 1.46, #9 of those with at least 5 games. Starfleet may consider promotion after season.

  43. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    Coos.. his name is Jonathan. A lot to dislike about him but can’t hold a grudge over the name!

  44. cooscoos Avatar

    Jonathan is even worse.

  45. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    A sad day.. in memory

  46. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    I don’t think the answer is that easy, at least in my mind. Two things to remember. That season Eric Christensen was the Rangers top 6 center. Two, there is more than 300 points and over 200 goals difference between them. So, yeah, I think I’d still take Tavares at #1

  47. SN Avatar
    SN

    Cake – love those guys

  48. TYM Avatar
    TYM

    It is not Jon Cooper up here……..it is Squirrely Bowman. Please behave accordingly.

  49. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    lol TYM .. I wonder if there is any relation? https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Bowman-2081

  50. Eddie J Avatar
    Eddie J

    LOL- “The Neckless Fisherman”.

  51. cooscoos Avatar

    Buck Neck-ed

  52. The Wick Avatar
    The Wick

    I’d pick Tavares but only if he was then moved to left defence.

  53. The Wick Avatar
    The Wick

    It’s important to play all very good players at positions other than their best one.

  54. Jpp Avatar
    Jpp

    Merry Christmas happy birthday

  55. Jpp Avatar
    Jpp

    Truthfully, that is more intentional goalie inference by stone than most goalie inference calls. He totally locked his skate into the inside of khudobin’s pad.

    BUT khudobin didn’t play the puck, he chose to like a basketball player allow contact to be made to get a free goalie inference call instead of stretching to get to the post.

  56. Jpp Avatar
    Jpp

    He’s hurt

  57. Jpp Avatar
    Jpp

    Hey what do you guys know about Jonathans. Coincidentally enough, I met a post office worker today, his name was Matthew. I go Matthew is a good name, that’s my middle name. He goes oh yeah it is a good name, it means gift from god. Which struck me as funny bc I’ve been told multiple times that the name Jonathan means gift from god.

    So as he is scanning all my packages in, I look up the meaning. And it says the meaning is god has given or gift from god. He goes wow both names your mom gave you means gift from god.

    I go, ‘I think I’m more ‘god has given’ than I am ‘gift from god’

  58. bobbyo2019 Avatar
    bobbyo2019

    Great shot by Radulov

  59. Jpp Avatar
    Jpp

    That was great shot.

    Wasn’t great positioning by the goalie

  60. Jpp Avatar
    Jpp

    Radulov with the messier

  61. SN Avatar
    SN

    Looks like an indoor lacrosse goalie with those pads

  62. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Radulov and Khudobin – Russian Stars shine bright.

  63. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    “Islanders fans are in SHAMBLES after watching their team lose in the last second to the Lightning” LMFAO! Loved that video! Guy’s t-shirt says “team of destiny” makes it even more hilarious! and then he kills the guy with a chair hahah

  64. cooscoos Avatar

    Is that Keith Hernandez?

  65. cooscoos Avatar

    Gifts from God

    Frogs
    Gnats
    Pestilence
    Boils
    Locusts
    Jonathans

  66. cregg7 Avatar
    cregg7

    The Seder plate be full

  67. James G Avatar
    James G

    Top of the morning to ya, BDL!

    SN- you like to sneak that line about secondary assists in to discredit any and every player you gripe about.

    36 career playoff games for Tavares. 15 goals and 15 assists.
    So let’s split hairs. Even if 7 of his Assists were secondary thats 15 goals and 8 primary assists over 36 playoff games.
    Prorate that over an 82 game regular season and you’re at about 34 goals 18 assists. Not great but certainly not a poor showing for a center in this league.

    Once again it just proves that your issue is based on wanting centers to have certain qualities and they supersede production.
    I mean at what point does it end in your mind?
    100 points? 120? Can a 120 point center not be a good center because he doesn’t morph into Mark Messier away from the puck?

  68. SN Avatar
    SN

    The point is that ‘points’ are good but just one production variable. Pajama boy is an elite offensive player; the type that Usually do not produce at the same clip in playoffs so you need to show up in other areas of the game to help THE TEAM win.

  69. Admiral Akbar Avatar
    Admiral Akbar

    C3P

    Funny video — there’s the entitlement: the blatant disbelief that the “Team of Destiny” actually could lose to the best team in hockey.

  70. 4everanger Avatar

    l’arrogance tue les oies – arrogance kills geese…

  71. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    10:06
    Aww! It will be Ok piles you still can be a team of destitute!

  72. 4everanger Avatar

    Every New Yorker has their own story for this, so sadly special, day. Of course, I have more than few – it hit my family too close… But today I would like to say that despite of immeasurable, everlasting damage of lost and distorted people lives the life itself, I, over devastating bitterness and desperation, want to remember also, the immense feeling of pride with the people in this apocalyptic event and incredible sense of unity with my fellow citizens, so needed in our uneasy times. Let’s REMEMBER that today – September, 11!

  73. SN Avatar
    SN

    Never forget!

  74. James G Avatar
    James G

    I gotcha man. 15 goals in 35 games is a good start to helping teams win if they have the right mix.
    Certainly not Top of the list as far as complete players though.
    That said I take him #1 with Kreider at 19. That’s pretty well balanced draft

  75. James G Avatar
    James G

    The most remarkable aspect of 9/11 is that we endured and healed as a nation. Stuck together to push through a dark period in this wonderful country’s history.
    Would be great if we could do that again and soon.

    #neverforget
    #nopolitics
    #bdlyourewrong

  76. James G Avatar
    James G

    By the way it’s an f-n joke that Cassidy best out Torts for coach of the year. Even AV would have been a better choice.

  77. The Wick Avatar
    The Wick

    The Arizona Coyotes are looking to slash about $10 million in payroll, don’t have a pick in the first three rounds this year, no first round pick next year, and recently missed bonus payments to a bunch of players.

    Talk about a dumpster fire…it’s not a big deal not having the picks IF you’re in win now mode and understand as an organization that you will suffer at some point in the future. But they’re not close to that and are cutting payroll and are missing bonuses and….etc etc

    Tire
    Fire

  78. tomk19 Avatar
    tomk19

    James- the writers choose coach of the year.

  79. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    News Flash “Gorton fleeces Arizona Coyotes.”

  80. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    The Athletic has released their organizational rankings for 2020 and the Rangers are once again #1, beating out the Devils who are #2. These rankings are based on players 22 and under. The top 12 players are:

    1. Kaapo Kakko RW
    2. Adam Fox D
    3. Filip Chytil C
    4. Nils Lundkvist D
    5. Brett Howden C
    6. Vitaly Kravtsov RW
    7. Julien Gauthier RW
    8. K’Andre Miller D
    9. Matthew Robertson D
    10. Morgan Barron C
    11. Zac Jones D
    12. Ryan Lindgren D

    Players with NHL potential include:

    Libor Hajek D
    Austin Rueschhoff RW
    Lias Andersson C
    Lauri Pajuniemi RW
    Patrick Khodorenko C
    Karl Henriksson C
    Leevi Aaltonen RW
    Hunter Skinner D
    Tyler Wall G
    Yegor Rykov D
    Simon Kjellberg D

    Not sure how Howden is #5 but okay!

  81. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Fast for Stepan.

  82. James G Avatar
    James G

    Complete crap, Tom.

  83. James G Avatar
    James G

    Damn Wicky. I didn’t realize how screwed AZ was. I guess that’s what happens when you just start collecting high price vets other teams don’t want to pay anymore.

  84. James G Avatar
    James G

    Lmfao @ Nils 4 and Lindgren 12.

  85. James G Avatar
    James G

    Watch Khodorenko turn out to be better than any other center prospect in the organization

  86. Jpp Avatar
    Jpp

    Much like Tony deangelo two training camps ago, I’m not trading Brendan Lemieux until I see Him play a full season. That kid has had so many stops and starts and has never found a home on a line yet. But he’s the kind of player when the support around him gets better, when he’s part of a more complete lineup, i think the guy Settles into a very valuable role.

    Kid needs to stay on the lineup, on the bench, and the ice. That means stay healthy and stay out of the box. If there’s one thing that annoys me about pepes impact on games, I felt a lot of the times during the regular season, he could be a flow disruptor for our own team. He gotta learn to play as part of a line, and he’s gotta quit taking himself out of the flow of the game by ending up in the penalty box for a trivia play. If your taking somebody with you and it’s a good trade off, I get it. But man unless you know it’s a situation where there’s Gonna be matching minors. Stay the hell out of the box.

  87. Jpp Avatar
    Jpp

    Pepes in danger of never really getting a chance to become the player he’sCapable of being (with the rangers) bc he hasn’t learned to play within a team concept. It’s like he’s out there trying to do everything himself to show his worth. He’s not skilled enough to succeed that way. He needs to work with his line mates if he’s gonna carve out a long term role here

    I hope he can. There’s no better place for a player like him to succeed and be loved by a fan base than the rangers

  88. Jpp Avatar
    Jpp

    Except maybe say…. Montreal

  89. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001