Four games on the schedule, all on NBCSN
Blue Jackets (0) vs Lightning (1), 3 PM
Blackhawks (0) vs Golden Knights (1), 5:30 PM start
Hurricanes (0) vs Bruins (1), 8 PM start
Flames (1) vs Stars (0), 10:30 PM start
Enjoy!
Four games on the schedule, all on NBCSN
Blue Jackets (0) vs Lightning (1), 3 PM
Blackhawks (0) vs Golden Knights (1), 5:30 PM start
Hurricanes (0) vs Bruins (1), 8 PM start
Flames (1) vs Stars (0), 10:30 PM start
Enjoy!
181 responses to “It’s Go Time!”
Carp’d
Pete
Not writing him off, he might get there some day. I’m also not discounting him as an asset to use to improve the team.
Oh, un btw!!
Who’s Carp?
I’d only move Chytil in a deal for a legit young 2C or and maybe a top pair left D if we have acquired another center by other means. But would have to be more added by the rangers in either such trade
Great hockey talk on the previous thread, kids.
Nice avatar cccp
The center conversation today tells how badly the Rangers need big centers in their system, and also tells you why it is so intriguing to draft Byfield. Thing is LA has centers, and are light on the wing. The Rangers are flipped. There’s a match there if they try hard enough.
The key to a good hockey conversation 3CP is to keep James out of it.
Bdl
Lmao
Isn’t Barron a centre?
Center/LW.
FWIW, let’s say the rangers keep hank for his swan song season and he’s the backup. I can certainly see them keeping chytil and Strome.
You don’t break up Strome and panarin.
I think Kakko is ticketed for top 6 next season.
So who’s the top 6?
Panarin Strome Gauthier
Kreider Zibanejad Kakko
Do Kakko and Gauthier switch?
Your third line is then Lafrenière chytil ?
The 4th line has….
Lemieux ? ?
The team wants to be harder to play against…they need a rugged winger on the 3rd line that can play.
Need a centre to win draws too.
Didn’t the rangers go hard after Ryan Reaves a couple of seasons ago? And isn’t he set to be a free agent after the season?
Derek Grant or Boyle for C….more options on wings Thompson, Clifford, Lewis, Eakins
Are we writing Chytil off? Asking for a friend.
Gravy, NO!
Remember when they made those Cup runs with grinders and everyone said they needed talent. Now they have talent and everyone wants grinders. 🙂
Only way I want to see Hank back here is if it means we have used Georgie to bring back a great young player (which would have to be as part of a larger deal).
Assuming we do the right thing and draft Laf, you have to believe he is playing top 6 LW immediately or in very short order, with either Kreider or Panarin moving to the right wing (and I would go with Panarin as he has played RW in the NHL before and is the far more versatile player).
Lastly, I want to see Gauthier develop and be put in a position to succeed, but he has not shown nearly enough yet to put him in the top 6 in my opinion and the coaching staff didn’t even put on the 3rd line in the play-in rounds (which to me was dumb given DiG really brings very little to the table)
Sure hope the cap goes up the year Seth Jones becomes (if he does) a UFA
.man what a player
Wicky always wants grinders. He’s consistent.
Reaves resigned in Vegas and took a paycut to do so. His cap hit starting next year be $1.75m/yr next year, which is a lot more palatable then his current $2.775m/yr cap hit
Nice hockey convo, boys!
I am going to agree with BDL. You don’t use Chytil to get a center. Robbing Peter to pay Paul. You don’t trade from your weak position. You don’t use your highly skilled young center to get a young matching center back. Still leaves a big hole. They have enough blue chips in different playing positions to pull this off
Kevin Shattenkirk. Yikes.
BUT! I’m going to strongly disagree with BDL about trading their first with Kings and getting Byfield. Million reasons there, but I will add one more. Byfield isn’t projected to make it to the big league next season. Lafrenière is. Having him here next year accelerates the re-stew. They’re more likely to make it to real playoffs with him than without. Extra year of real playoff experience, going for a round or two can’t be underestimated.
i wonder if the Rangers tried and were unable to get Cirelli in the Mac/Miller deal or if we just missed the boat on that one. He is one of their two big RFAs this year (Sergachev being the other), but can’t see them trading him or JD offersheeting him
Wicky,
I believe Vegas gave him (Reaves) a two year extension.
I didn’t say I’d do it Ilb. I wouldn’t. But that is a match.
Byfield is bad on draws…he’s no help.
I wouldn’t be shocked to see Byfield go 3rd in the draft.
That hurt my feelings. BDL.
Pete
Agree re Gauthier. Didn’t have another viable rw option in house imo.
Basing that on Buchnevich is traded.
And according to ilb, can’t put chytil on a wing because of the dearth at centre.
If The Minx was the GM, it’s a good thing I’m not. I would trade Buchnevich, D’Angelo, Andersson, and possibly Stromeo. I would love to see the Blueshirts land Max Domi. I would not trade Chytil I got a feeling about that kid. A good feeling!
Ilb
What if the organization is moving chytil to wing? Can the rangers trade him then?
Which quite frankly has been my point about chytil all along. He can’t even stick at centre on a team with a dearth of centres.
Talk about an Ironman mindset. Torts deserves the Jack Adam’s.
Truly my favorite coach and someone who can instill a balls of steel attitude into a team.
If the Rangers don’t draft Lafrenière I will become a pens fan, and I hate the pens!
I read some responses in the convo and at times I feel like I said trade Zibanejad for Brian Boyle.
😉
I was watching the video the other day posted by someone ( CCCP?) with French speaking hockey writers from Quebec about Lafrenière. They were complaining that there was no big time player from Quebec until 50s. And then there was a gap until Lemieux showed up. And then there was a big gap between him and Vincent Lecavalier/Martin St. Louis. And after Vinny and Marty there is now another big gap. And they think Lafrenière could be the next ONE from Quebec.
But it got me thinking how under appreciated Patrice Bergeron is. Still. After so many years of excellence. Look at his career offensive numbers and his plus minus. Both regular season and playoffs. And how he is still going strong. What these numbers don’t show is how many clutch goals he scored, and how many goals he prevented from going in to Boston‘s net. If he was in NY during their recent golden years, how many cups do the win? Two?
Thanks for the Reaves info boys, appreciate it
Lol, remember when folks here said they wouldn’t trade Stepan for Bergeron…I do
The more I read about Byfield the more I realize that the more appropriate move if they wanted to go center would be to trade the first pick for someone not swap and draft QB.
But at the end of the day it doesn’t matter. They’re not passing on Lafrenière.
Keep something else in mind- you have to remember who their coach is.
Quinn isn’t going to approach Lafrenière any differently than he did Kakko. Meaning there’s no free ticket to the top six. Especially over a veteran like Kreider who has strong chemistry with their number one center.
Most likely Kreider-Zibanejad and Panarin-Strome stay in tact.
What’s not clear is
A. Is Buchnevich back next year?
B. If Fast walks who will play RW2?
Shatty exposed on the Wennberg goal. He is still collecting his equipment off of the ice.
Wicky, they need to get to that center depth before they move a natural center to the wing. Trading him doesn’t solve it.
ORF,
I’m sure his fancy boy STATS were great.
As for Chytil you guys amuse me. I never said “I want to trade a
Chytil”. I said that I feel like they MIGHT trade him.
Do I think he’s a good wing? No. And
I do not think he will play wing. He’s going to be at center again if he’s here next year. As I said in the previous thread there’s a laundry list of actual wings that play the position better.
Maybe he keeps improving the way Hayes did. Idk.
Exactly, if you can trade chytil to better the team…that includes for a better centre than him…you do it.
He’s an asset. You don’t give him away. If what you get in a deal isn’t better than him, you don’t do it.
If he’s part of a deal to bring eichel (as an example), you drive him to the airport.
Did you see that Wicky wants to trade Zibanejad for Boyle. Sheesh.
Howden sucks but he keeps taking chytil’s centre position forcing chytil to wing.
Move along, nothing to see here.
Bdl
Lmao…brilliant
Last night I watched a video on you tube of Brady Tkakchuk. This kid is an animal,who aould look great in a Rangers uniform. 20 years old,6’3′ and play’s like his father but nastier.
Now you’re going to extremes, Wicky. Chytil is far from untouchable. If you can get him in a deal for a high scoring center, by any means. But not for a matching center.
Talking about center’s Artem Anisimov is making 4.5 million dollars a year and scored more the 20 goals,two times in his storied career. Brady Tkakchuk in his first two years in the NHL has scored has scored more then 20 goals and his cap hit is under a million.
Chytil will be on the wing before they trade him; he would be a force on the fly but does not play well with others. Does not think pass just shoot/score.
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Is Lias Anderson untouchable still?
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Ilb
I’m not going to an extreme at all. I never said trade him for a matchup centre. I said he isn’t one and if the team re-signs Strome, chytil is a bit of a round peg square hole.
He’s not a 4th liner and he’s not better than Strome. You move him in a deal to address a team need in the above scenario.
Ilb
Would you trade him for monahan from Calgary?
Jt Miller?
Tyler Johnson?
Kadri?
Kunin?
Couturier?
Trocheck?
Thomas?
Krecji?
Cirelli?
Jenner?
Erickson ek?
Hintz?
Kuznetsov?
I said to Wicky earlier that I would have parted with Chytil for Trocheck at the deadline. Not straight up but that’s the type of center that fits the profile of what we’re talking about and isn’t available very often. Like an O’Reilly or a Schenn
I can go on…every one of those centres would be better than chytil considering the current make up of this team (although I despise Tyler Johnson) and some of those centrées could be considered “matchup” centres. It seems like you are confusing matchup centre with 4th line grinder or 13th forward McKegg.
Not all necessarily more skilled than chytil but better fits for this team if it keeps Strome.
Another avenue here is to attempt to trade up in the draft to get a center in the top 10.
Hypothetical example Buchnevich and 20th pick for a chance at Hollaway or Lundell
As far as the wing goes think a lot depends on Gauthier. He’s the right make up for what they need as RW2.
Whether he’s ready to assume that role is another question. Might be a big ask
Chytil is an asset just like other picks and players, you’d ont just throw them away you use them if you need to. If it helps the team, you do it.
SN Chytil on the wing means Howden back at center and probably C3.
Unles Barron makes the team and shows he can play center for 82 games. Again- big ask if two young guys
Let’s Go Hawks!
Woo hoo come on Vegas!!
The Oscars will now award Deniro for not releasing movies.
Did I mention…woo hoo Vegas baby!!!!!
James – they need a 3C not learning on the fly like Cheadle or Howdy
Many of those names won’t be available Wick and/or would not be the kind of player i would give up Chytil for as they are 3rd liners, which is fine but not who you trade a 20yr old offensive player for.
I will say Tyler Johnson at $5m/year for the next 4 seasons is in no way what we need on the 3rd line, tho Tampa would give us him for a lot less than Chytil id imagine.
James, so if Gauthier is RW2, who is on the third line-kreider, kakko or Laf?
If Howden is a 3C we aren’t trying
i’d say the same if he is our 4C too!
Spechnikov looks like Kakko against these big bad Bruins.
Yes. Las Anderson is untouchable because nobody wants him.
Pete
8 of those guys are top 6 and all of them would be better “harder to play against” players that Gorton and Jd recently referenced at 3C than chytil.
Skilled offensive player chytil….he’s a skilled offensive player like howden and Lemieux, just look at their stats.
And look at the stats of a lot of those guys I listed…chytil doesn’t compare offencively to them at all…he’s worse.
If you just compare him to Lemieux and howden, they all score at a similar rate, where chytil falls behind them is when you look deeper into actual minutes played…don’t confuse potential with actual production, it can lead to misguided conclusions about a player.
That’s the Spechnikov I’ve come to love!
Krug has had a nice run with the Bruins for a guy who was to small and slow to hack it
BS call on Teravainen
BS PENALTY LEADS TO BRUIN PP TYING GOAL!
Think Rod Brind’amour has a complaint on that call. Looked like the Bruin backed up and fell down. With the NBC announcers you will never hear a bad thing about the Bean Town Bozo’s .
After brindamour’s hissy fit At last post game I don’t think he should expect much sympathy from the officials
37 is a stud; love how they talked about him working out so much they had to have him tone it down.
In related news; Howden starting working with weights last summer for the first time- true story.
Pete, you missed out on previous thread comment. Gauthier at RW2 and Kakko at RW1 if Buchnevich is moved.
If not I’d assume he stays 3 with Chytil and Lafrenière
Svechnikov is going to make Buffalo regret taking Dahlin first overall for a long time…and Dahlin is a pretty good player…
Anson Carter-smh
SN
Agree 100% about 3C
James
Truth re Dahlin and rod the bod
To move on from this going nowhere topic, it’s night and day difference in the potential moves the rangers can make if hank retires vs not.
Let’s go flames
most of them are harder to play against than Mika and Strome and why did you list guys like Couturier, Krecji and Kadri when you know full well they are not available? I’d also say you could make a case for them and others (like Cirelli) on that list being better than Strome too, so why aren’t we trying to replace Strome with one of them?
And sure i’d like a guy like Jenner on our team, but a) he isn’t being traded and b) I wouldn’t trade Chytil for him (not sure if you were saying you would).
And yes Chytil is an offensive player and had more goals than more than one player on your list, including Krecji. Give Chytil a full year in the NHL next season with more competent linemates and he will score 20 goals and i’d say closer to 20 assists and wouldnt say the same for Howden and definitely not Lemieux. And those numbers would be higher playing with Panarin
Got you James, but I just don’t see Gauthier playing above Laf realistically
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Gauthier needs development time. But he’s a RW.
Lafrenière plays the left side.
I could see them on a line with Chytil in between them.
That’s one hell of a kid line despite it not being a traditional third line.
I think Kreider-Zibanejad and Panarin-Strome stay in tact.
So LAF-Chytil is almost a given. At least to start.
Quinn is way too conservative to expect him to throw 18 year olds into TOI over his vets.
wouldn’t be over vets, he would just move one of Panarin or Panarin to right wing. May be right it doesn’t happen right away, but will sooner rather than later if Laf is the player he is supposed to be
Pete
Left:
Kreider
Panarin
LaF
Lemieux
Right:
Buchnevich
Kakko
Gauthier
Di Giuseppe
That’s how I see the depth lining up. BUT…I wouldn’t be surprised if Buchnevich is moved. Or if one of Kravtsov or Barron fights his way onto the roster
Like Gauthier wheels but he hasn’t shown much finish yet….Howden is a 4c …..hope some other GM likes him as much as Brooksie
*Panarin or Kreider
Buch is a goner James
The list was simply the type of player that is harder to play against but can score.
I’d prefer production over excuses and what ifs and “potential”.
Everyone plays better with better line mates (except fast).
There’s a myriad of reasons (salary, availability, etc) that those guys won’t be available or reasonable trade targets.
I don’t know how many times I have to say it, I don’t think we need to dump chytil, I mentioned him along with some other players that could be traded to get a more balanced roster, sorry if that has become lost along the way.
I’d move Strome for the right trade too, he’s an asset, just like chytil. He’s just better than chytil and more versatile than chytil and more important to team chemistry than chytil so I’d part with chytil before Strome in the right deal. Both are definitely movable assets though.
I hear ya. I’m not a big believer in the notion that they’ll start moving veterans out of their natural positions to accommodate an 18 year old.
Not based on any preference of my own I just don’t think Quinn will do that from what I’ve seen of him as a coach .
Maybe to shake things up when they need a spark in a game now and then or when someone is slumping but not on the regular.
on opening day of camp that’s accurate James, but as i said in short order one of Kreider or Panarin moves to right wing once Laf is ready, with Kakko being the other right wing. Agree Buch should be odd man out
Bobbyo
I’m not even sure howden is a 4C. He didn’t improve like I expected from last season to the COVID one.
Maybe he’s on the chytil progression plan and he’ll be 1C next season.
Bobby I think so too. Inconsistent and has had more chances than most of the youth.
Untouchable 1C, Wick. Get it right 🙂
I still think howden is expansion draft fodder
Oh ok sorry. I keep posting which according to some Chytil enthusiasts means that you guys can’t have a good hockey convo…I’ll shut up now.
James
Lol, that’s right, my bad.
Pete, you think that’s more likely than spreading it out over 3 lines?
Not saying it’s impossible I just don’t see it. Neither has ever played RW.
Wonder if you could sign a D like Dillon to partner with trouba for a couple seasons until a guy like miller could assume that role?
Where does kravtsov fit in to all this? I mean he’s a skill player right?
Has anyone made a list of the “skill“ players we have?
as far as next season sure Strome is better than Chytil and more important to team chemistry, but hopefully JD and Gorton will be thinking past next season with whatever they end up doing, because take Strome away from Panarin and he and Chytil wouldn’t be that different as far as offensive production and while strome is better at faceoffs for sure, he is not amazing at them and nor is he that great defensively. And with his contract status being what it is, i think that will all be considered, along with where he would fit if they kept him and Chytil and Chytil becomes ready for 2C
i think the hope is Chytil can become 2C this coming season or next and we acquire/develop a real solid checking center for the third line.
I don’t know enough about other players around the league, but would be interesting to see a list of young centers with 2C upside we could acquire (be it for Chytil, Strome, Tony or Buch, etc).
You gotta love brain dead play by Douggie. What a schnook. So glad he is not a Ranger. Would feel about him the same as I felt about Shadow-Doubt. These are supposed to br NHL players. Old Rod would have lost his mind if the B’scored.
I could be wrong, but pretty sure Panarin has played RW before (he is a righty after all), but don’t think kreider has. If Laf develops like he is expected to, he will be on the left side in the top 6. you don’t move to the right side or keep him on the 3rd line once he is ready to move up just because Kreider has never played RW before
Kreider played RW this season with Bread albeit briefly; that is most likely but Laffy needs to show some gumption early as Kakko was a lost sailor out there for much of the season.
My guess is JD bides his time for one more season letting the anchor deals float away and starting to truly mold the roster
may be right SN and if that’s the case id be giving Chytil a long look at 2C
Chytil did not look good playing w Panarin when he was bumped up in the line up
Not saying that can’t or won’t change but this notion that you can just throw him out there w Panarin and it’ll work out fine is a stretch for now IMHO
At the centre position I’m most concerned about a guy that can win vital draws. I like Koivu, but not sure on his contract demands or willingness to play a bottom 6 role (I think he’s top 6 in Minnesota).
Wick-i like Koivu as well, but he’s been playing on the 4th line and people seem to think he’s going to retire now that his contract is up.
Tom
Thanks for that info. If he’d be willing to play 4th line here for a season…
In the Himalayan Hockey League, if you’re Untouchable, nobody wants you.
Wonder if hank and Calgary would be a match?
Esa Lindell would be a good partner for Trouba. Probably not get able though.
Chytil will get a long look at middle six pivot but they really did him no favors by basically handing him the position regardless of how he played. This lack of performance accountability impacts his motivation for development and team
Morale.
Let’s face it; they cuffed up that draft six ways from Sunday.
Is Off his Gortie been handed his walking papers yet by JD?
Good morning, boneheads!
Still going, lol?
Wicky, briefly, I’d trade Chytil fort some of the players on your list, not nearly all of them. And would also like to see what 20 yr old 6-2, 205 lb skilled center can do before I decide to trade him. By the way, imo, Strome can be retained for another year at a reasonable price, but I am not convinced he should be a long term investment.
SN
Agree on that draft. I’ve spoken up about that 17 draft several times but that’s been about The argument for mittlestadt. He wasn’t the move. It’s starting to look like the move was Necas or Rob Thomas. But that’s Lias alternative.
What’s the alternative to Chytil at 21? Timmins? Tolvanen? Good prospects but Chytil is a full time nhl player already for better or for worse. And at 20 years old you’d think there’s still untapped potential there. He wasn’t perfect but he made big strides from rookie year til now. If JD keeps him we’ll see what his junior season looks like.
James – the draft was weak and the development worse.
Thomas was the most ready but also landed in a perfect opportunity in St Lou.
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Scary as picks 3-5 seem to work out better than 1,2. Seems the media echo chamber can be self reinforcing and not The best predictor of picks 1-5
This. \/ \/
“ My guess is JD bides his time for one more season letting the anchor deals float away and starting to truly mold the roster.”
—-SN Aug 13, 11:02pm
Next year 20-21 is really the last year of the “re-build”, and we will transition into the “build” phase….. 2021-22 we will see what this team really is.
Too many 6’2 210 kids today do not know and never learn how to take advantage of their gift of size.
Finals…The philth vs. The Avalanche
Ilb
Undoubtedly. Don’t have to get rid of the kid at all, just don’t see a problem trading him…or anyone else in the the right deal to improve holes in the roster.
Especially when you consider the roster make up and what Gorton and jd have both said…not what any of us have said, what they said.
There are a lot of centres I’d rather have than Strome, not sure how many of them will put up 60-70 points for around $4 mil per though…chemistry or not or luck or not with a hart candidate line mate.
Buttom line the Rangers need to be harder to play against, right now they’re still a Cotton Candy Crew!
Man, I like rasmus Anderson in Calgary. He reminds me of kasparitus a bit…in a good way.
Speaking of d…isn’t that big young righty d man in Tampa going to be a free agent? I’m guessing a rfa though.
I keep seeing articles where they think apple strudel is going before Byfield in the draft.
St Pete broke the blog
Steaming, I mean, streaming now…
https://www.instagram.com/p/CD3xT0aFnfK/?igshid=1hz93tlrp0320
Sean Avery arrests himself for throwing rocks at passing autos.
He taunts the criminals but doesn’t actually throw down with them
Been thinking about Lafreniere and trading the pick. Let me start by saying I WOULD NOT trade the pick.
Here are a couple of scenarios you would consider if you were to trade the pick.
Ottawa gives 3/5+ sweetener for one. Why would you do it. You take Byfield at three, and let him marinate for a season in junior. You don’t need him yet with Zibanejad, Strome and Chytil here for next season. You use 5 to draft Quinn, who is a RW goal scorer. You have Panarin and Kreider on the left for the foreseeable future, but RW may be lacking.
wouldn’t be that surprised if LA took ze German as he can play wing and center and they have so many center prospects as it is.
Think we’ve exhausted the Chytil topic for the time being, but will just leave it with it I think they should only consider moving him if the center coming back is young, ready to play 2C and under control for a while. Last thing we need is a reverse Mika where Chytil turns into a beast in 4 or 5 years (when he will still be only 24/25) and we only got 2 or 3 years of another center. That’s who you trade Strome/Buch/Tony for in my opinion
BDL, can’t guarantee Byfield will even be there at 3 and the sweetener would have to a really good NHL young NHL player, like Tkachuk
LA gives you a sweetener to move up to one. They have three 2s, and some very good near ready prospects. You take Byfield and wait on him. Add a couple of assets, plus you have the big center you crave going forward.
Again , I would not do it. You have a chance to take the best player in the draft, you do it. But there are some scenarios if you look big picture, that could make sense.
Pete,
You obviously you would have to know who LA was taking. As far as the Ottawa sweetener, was not the point of my post. Just reasoning as to why the Rangers would consider trading the pick.
Id have no confidence in knowing who the kings are taking until they make the pick and Kings don’t have the NHL ready talent to make the deal i don’t think. Any such trade would have to be an absolute homerun for Gorton and foolish on the part of the other team in my opinion, which is why it’s so unlikely here and why there have been so few #1 picks moved (think the Sedin draft was the last one)
From my wide reading on thesubject (for what THAT’s worth,) I infer Frenchy is superior to Byfield by spades in every way sans speed and size, and that Byfield has never yet taken advantage of his size. Admittedly they are both kids, but absolutely no way I pass up Laffy.
What happened to doodies twitter feed.
Now I feel like the world has ended
There are ways around that Pete. The Rangers pick Lafreniere, trade contingent on what LA does. If they take Byfield, no trade, if they do, trade.
I think it makes more sense to draft LAF and then use your current prospects along with Carolina’s pick to get back into position for a top ten center in this supposedly very deep draft.
Lundell for example would mean the target should be Ottawa’s 5 OA Buffalo at 8 or Winnipeg at 10.
Zary should be there around 12-18
Again at the end of the day it’s harmless conversation but the reality of it is they’re not trading their pick
Pete
Agreed that’s who you trade Strome, Buchnevich, and D’Angelo.
agree on them not moving that pick james. I also think it would be very hard for the rangers to trade into even back end of the top 10 unless they gave up a Kravtsov or Chytil or a team really loved Tony D’s game. I’d much rather use that second 1st in a larger deal to acquire an young NHLer or NHL ready prospect who fits a need. The 15-18 range might be a little easier (key being little), but think whoever you take there is likely 3 years away from making a meaningful impact, so just have to keep that in mind
Agree, not trading the pick. But it is fun trying to convince people of ways it would make sense.
Last year to get Trouba, they traded their second first, and Pionk. Pionk, despite some incredible hatred heaped upon him by fans, was and is a pretty good player. Who is this years Trouba, and Pionk.
How many times in the past have the Rangers drafted for need and bit the bullet, asking for a friend? You draft Lafreniere period! #22 may someday hang in the rafters. The Minx has spoken!
St. Pete, I don’t see Columbus doing it for a couple reasons, but i would certainly trade strome and buch for Jenner, recognizing he isn’t really a 2C but could slot there temporarily while Chytil develops and then comfortably slide back to 3C when Chytil is ready this season or next
Hello boneheads! My house guests from below the MasonDixon line have departed. Unfortunately it took an extra day to rid the house of the bat they let inside 🙁
NYR are not going to trade down to get Byfield. He’s not ready, there are some question marks about his game and hope is not an option when you have the #1. As to Ottawa, does the kid want to go to that train wreck? Certainly a risk he says no.
NYR are keeping the pick if for no other reason than Lafrenière has no soul (he’s a ginger!)
BDL, this year’s Pionk is any or all of Strome, Tony and Buch, not sure who they could get tho for those guys and they first
Got the news by text from cousin in VA while hiking down a mountain trail. Earlier in the day, one of the southern guest’s sons told me he’d rather Edmonton, Toronto or Pissburgh get the pick than NYR. He’s an Icelander fan by birth but that is incredibly bitter! Was quite happy to thank him for his happy thoughts that night 🙂
Wicky: the cost of Strome will depend on if it is a one or multi year deal. I can see a two year at 5 per given the cap situation and the effect on both parties involved. No Covid I think Strome would get 5.5-6 per as a UFA for a 4yr deal, possibly more if he were to equal pace of this year in 20/21 RFA final.
Funny how so many of you guys for years have wanted kids/prospects and now want to replace the bottom six with vet grinders. NYR are unlikely to win cup next year. The entire rebuild is about having another 10 year run (and hopefully at least one or two cups).
Some of those picks will end up in the bottom six and at lower cost with more time potential than some other team’s older grinder. If done well by mgt. there also will be no need to add ‘veteran experience’ as they will already have it by the time that truly matters.
One major reason for our ‘playoff’ ennui was losing the big, tough Irish ‘kid’ on D.
Pete
Exactly, you include a chytil or kravtsov in the right deal…which is what I said yesterday that led to a days worth of great hockey banter!
Pete
What did I say about Columbus?
Only way I consider trading 1OA in bdl’s hypothetical situation is if it’s for 3,5, and tkachuk.
I don’t include the later first unless they take a smith or staal full contract And I’m getting 2 second round picks back.
But no way in hell do i trade Lafrenière.
It’s pretty funny to see all the folks that say never draft for need, take the best player say trade a talent like Lafrenière to get a centre that sucks on draws.
I believe in drafting for need Personally …IF the need player is relatively close in rating to the better player.
This is not the case with Lafrenière and any other player in the draft, Lafrenière all the way.
Don’t remember St Pete! Just know that Torts likely wouldn’t want anything we’d be offering him!
Honestly I don’t think I do that deal Wick, still too much uncertainty for the Rangers
Pete
I don’t do that deal either. I don’t trade Lafrenière…period!
You’re killing me Wick!
Beezle
I think Strome comes in at $18 mil for 4 years. Maybe a little more if it’s 1 or 2 years only.
I wouldn’t go much over that. He can get more in free agency, but I think both sides want it done here.
Strome can move down from 2C at some point if the contract if they bring in a better proven nhl centre or a young player steps up and plays better than him.
St Pete
What did I do?
Really? Even with Tkachuk in it?
Surprisingly? The one guy here that Torts would take in a nanosecond: Quickie Mop
Wicky
Ask Pete I can’t remember 😕
Dyslexics remember the Omala
Strome wouldn’t be the ideal matchup center on the 3rd line either tho is the only thing, so think you got to keep it to $4mish/yr for no more than 2 years, so that cap space is free when it’s time to resign Mika
Two other centers who weren’t average of below at face offs; Gretzky and LeMieux
Were
Pete- You’re probably right but at the same time if you have a team like Buffalo that’s trying to compete right now and you offer them an attractive enough roster player that fits their needs along with that later R1 then you’re back in the top 10.
Again- highly unlikely that the Rangers have the kind of player to offer to do that but it is what it is.
And just to reiterate- I’d happily take Brisson, Zary, Holloway or even Khusnutdinov with that Carolina pick.
They don’t have to part with something substantial to get a center in this draft.
SN
Correct, but their overt ability in other aspects of the game…aka elite, HOF offence, allows the dot deficiency to be tolerated.
would be awesome if we could draft a guy like Hollaway James, but my guess is he is gone well before it would be our turn to pick (and likely too high to move up) and similar for Zary and Brisson, tho admittedly rankings vary for these three guys so hard to say. The Russian looks decent and my guess is would be there for the taking but undersized and I’d wager very raw, so wouldn’t put much faith in him panning out. What we really need is for Boston to win and 2 or 3 upsets elsewhere so our position improves
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It’s too bad the Finn lundell will be gone by that second pick.
I’d rather see them use it to improve the roster immediately in a trade as opposed to a maybe pick.
No reason to waste contract years of star players who are one injury away