Not going to blame it on Hank. Came in cold after sitting almost a month, against a hot team. He didn’t help by not making an important save, the way he used to for a decade. He may not be able to anymore. The young guy who played across the ice can. Philadelphia got themselves a goalie after years and years of searching. He is good. Hank, on the other hand, is what he is. That’s something to discuss after this season.
The Flyers are a better team. And the Rangers were simply not good defensively today. Too many penalties, too many lost assignments, too many passengers. Something they’ve avoided largely over the last 6-7 weeks.
The Rangers got worse after deadline. Some of it because of bad luck, some of it by design. Losing Skjei ( right move by Gorton ) made their defense worse. We knew it was going to be the case. Smith isn’t going to fix it. They may need to burn another call up and bring Hajek.
They lost their number one goaltender. Though, as per DQ, Shesterkin might be closer to return than originally expected.
They lost one of their best top 6 forwards. They aren’t deep enough to overcome this. It’s unfortunate, but not much one can do about it.
At the same time, looking at the teams around them in the crowded race for a wildcard spot, they are all in a free fall. It’s still very doable. But not if they continue to play like that defensively. Their top guns are doing what they can. Time for someone else to step up. Grab this opportunity, boys.
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287 responses to “Rangers-3, Flyers-5”
Geez, Alex, I thought Cregg and I had a stressful job…
Wow – heavy stuff; glad all is well
.heading out to a funeral this week for a college friend who died in his sleep the night after being sent home from the hospital after a 3 day stay for an infection. Picture of health, 3 teenage sons, hockey fanatic;
#6 friend/family to go in last 15 months, all males and in their 50s; two of them self inflicted. Crazy times!
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Enjoy the dance, only get one chance.
good stuff ILB….media would rather scare the hell out of everyone to generate click rates or political agendas (both sides)
good to hear Beezle!
Yikes – glad to hear all is good with those dealing with angst. SN, my brutha, lately you’ve seen some drama Dali lama it seems….
ILB
worst thing is to be in the middle between those who say get it done yesterday, and those who you need the info from who literally don’t give a sh. needed info from comptroller who was always busy. but not busy if i wanted to talk about the yankees. it was soxx related. there was another team (aka the 3 wisemen) who had major attitude problems. worst job i ever had.
ah the memories.
Thanks guys. SN, very sorry for your loss. Have had a few similar the past few years though more distant friends.
Alex – no nausea but was tested for vertigo as had a pronounced floaty/bouncy feeling, one of those things you know is just not right. Second test indicated might be a brain issue, thankfully seems a false positive. May have been a combo of stress, caffeine and other environmental things but for now things do seem more normal/better. NYR were sucking pretty bad then too!
#no politics
#no epidemiology
#only hockey
#ivoteforgibberish
#thentalkabouttheNYJets
Beezle happy to hear it was all good news. As you know the wife and I just went through something too last week.
Only difference is I’m always such a jerk I didn’t have to worry about whether I was more of a jerk than usual. 🙂
#noepidemiology. My favorite hashtag ever to appear on this blog.
Georgiev in net tomorrow. I’m shocked! 🙂
Did you hear about the guy with a personality so negative, that when he walked into a room, someone would ask, “who just left”
Very sorry to hear, SN.
DQ hates Hank
That’s terrible SN
Hope it’s a smoother ride for the next 15 months.
Ps… glad you’re back with the boneheads. I thought it was you were holding out till the Kreider signing in a show of solidarity
Digger on Mika’s left at practice. Apparently a decision made after talking to Zibanejad and Buchnevich about Kreider’s absence
Cregg, we’d already been notified about procedure masks being at critical supply volumes thanks to the flu.
I think I’ve got about half a dozen N95s in my cabinet at the moment. Better hide them before someone tries selling them out of the back door like the Popeyes chicken sandwiches
I like the idea of DiG on Mika’s line. Similar player to Kreider in the sense that he can dig out pucks and win some board battles. Just need to steady the ship tomorrow.
Is it too much to ask that we not play pond hockey and that we pick up the opposition in front of our net? It’s been an issue since the 2nd or 3rd year that Torts was gone.
Staal fronts opposition, unable to move, check, or tie up his man’s stick, then wanders and takes a knee. Useful only to further screen our goalie. Ain’t changing. Old dogs don’t learn new tricks.
I have an idea for a movie – sleazy crumb knowingly distributes faulty children’s masks in war-torn Vienna during epidemic, makes fortune. Oh wait – Orson Wells in ‘The Third Man.’
Biden and Bernie promise to raise my taxes. Brilliant. College kids love it. Me? See ya.
No politics. Actually not politics – suicide.
Great Googmooga – Dow climbs 1300 pts.
Are the Cap Friendly numbers correct? If they buyout Hank after June 30, it’s $5.5M dead space next year and $1.5M the year after?
Fist bumps or slight bows should long ago have taken over for handshakes.
Gravy – yes, a 3M cap savings next year, 1.5M penalty the following. If they resign Georgie they will use about 1.5 of the 3 which still leaves a bit for other rfas. The 2021 penalty is not really an issue as Kirk drops dramatically and cap will be higher as well.
No Staalitics.
James G your 11:02….The song that never ends? Have you been watching Lamb Chops Play Along?
My boys are 24 and 26 and I cannot tell you the amount of hours I had to spend watching those brain numbing shows. Problem is though I was actually starting to like some of them. And that was scary.
Beezle, when did Georgie’s price drop down to 1.5? I know ilb had it 3 when he did his Sign Everyone post, but have things changed since then, or was that original assessment off do you think?
I think he probably meant his Raise
“Re-signing D-man ( 1. Total-8 )
DeAngelo-$4,000,000
Re-signing goaltenders ( 1. Total-3 )
Georgiev-$3,000,000”
Not sure what that means any more.
Coos,
Tax the rich, feed the poor
‘Til there are no rich no more?
James, with all due respect, DiG isn’t a pimple on Kreiders backside.
Like the guy, on the forth line only
Who TF is “Digger”?
Best cornerman ever at MSG was Angelo Dundee.
2nd place- Don Maloney
Norm, that was the salary I assigned to Georgiev. $3M. Probably was about 0.5M too generous. Now, with Georgiev looking at a back up minutes next season, I think $2.3-2.5M is more realistic. $1.5M isn’t going to cut, he’ll get more in arbitration with his current numbers. I also think that $4M maybe too low for DeAngelo.
I might revisit that post with what they currently have, but they’re playing every other day, so that can wait.
Geez.
No matter if we get along on the blog or if we’d get along in real life. I wish you all good health and a long life of bickering with each other about the Rangers.
Right truth is other than our opinions on the rangers and whatever else gets mentioned here. We have no clue about what’s going on in each other’s lives aside from what we share with each other and those of you that are friends outside the blog. Maybe we should be kind to each other even in our disagreements. And maybe me myself needs to be the most vigilant with that.
Boneheads bicker. Boneheads also wish nothing but the best for bonehead brethren and everyone out there alike
Norm: ” If they resign Georgie they will use about 1.5″ They will use about 1.5M of the Hank savings to apply to Georgie’s new contract of 2.5M +/-, he already makes 0.8. In theory, they can come in with a goalie cap hit of 2.5+1.0+5.5 dead King = 9.0 which is less than what they are paying now for HL+either of the two kids and substantially less there after.
They posts on here are much more rational when discussing the Corona virus than when discussing the Rangers. It’s probably the opposite elsewhere.
Well said JPP
ILB, Re your 7:01AM post:
I posted here at some time this past month that there was no doubt in my mind, Rangers win the Kings series with Igor in net. No one can convince me otherwise. Replace Nash with Panarin and they sweep the Kings 4-0.
Kings were a great team but very beat up by 2 very difficult series coming into the finals. They were there for the taking.
Ahahaha. Great catch, Rich. Damn sock puppet and her sing alongs
Beezle, I don’t see how what Georgie is making now applies to what they sign him for next year–you sign him or you lose him, no? (This is why I pay ilb the big bucks.) If you buy out Lundqvist, you have 3 to spend, but 1.5 dead the following season. So you spend 2.5 on Georgie, say, and 0.5 towards someone else. If you keep Lundqvist, you have 0 to spend on anyone, but 0 dead space either. If the plan is to tandem Shesty and Georgie long-term, then I suppose you buy HL out to get that done barring the latter agreeing to something else. I would have thought the plan was to pick Shesty or Georgiev to start (which choice seems pretty clear now) and pay a standard-issue backup not much after you sign Shesty next year and HL is gone. I am happy to have this all wrong, but that’s my current understanding.
Corona virus comes to ny Dow crashes. ILB reassures everyone no reason to panic and it soars 1300 points. Well done, captain.
Who the hell cares about some stock market crash or some potentially dangerous virus? We’ve got a cap situation to think about!
Marc Staal seen entering Coos Home in North Cupcake with Henry Kissinger. Peace negotiations have commenced!
Norm – what is important is the salary differential from one season to the next. We currently have Georgie under contract at 0.8 as well as Hank’s hair and Igor too. It will cost something on the order of an extra 1.5 to keep Georgie.
Igor and Georgie are in effect each other’s backup going forward until such a time as one is getting 60 games a year. You can call Igor’s salary the backup’s salary and Gerogie’s the starter salary, the names attached don’t matter.
Was going to watch some hockey. Till I realized Detroit has 35 points this season. Thirty five! You really have to find different ways to embarrass yourself on a nightly basis to get to that point.
Hank saying he will sit down with the management to discuss his future indicates to me that he senses they will keep both Shesterkin and Georgiev for the near future, and that he will be open to either buyout or a trade. Trade is preferable from a team perspective, because that will save them $4.25M in cap space without any additional years left. And it’s not far fetched that a team will take him for a back up responsibility while spending only $2.25M in real money after he gets a $1M bonus on July 1st. My numbers are based on Gorton retaining one half of his salary/cap space.
ILB- know who’s going to get hurt by Detroit’s record? Jimmy Howard. UFA at end of the season. Wondering if he will go elsewhere (like Edmonton) or stay a Red Wing
ilb, if you care to explain Beezle’s salary differential business to me, feel free–I don’t understand what difference it makes since he’s not making that next year if he stays. If you are not so inclined, that makes sense, too. Sound like it may be a moot point if he’s traded. Don’t know HL’s incentives there, either, to allow the trade or force them buy him out. Nor do I understand Georgiev’s (and his agent’s) understanding of the starting-goalie market and if he has any leverage to get into it if they think he’s worthy.
Norm, you’re talking same things, but from different angles.
Angle of the Dangle
Is equal to The heat of the meat
Hank is the sexiest of the sexy boys.
Wouldn’t that be $3.25m in real money after the $1m bonus? Half of $8.5m is $4.25m.
Good morning, boneheads!
No, his actual salary is $4.5M next year after $1M bonus. Half of that is what a team acquiring him will have to pay in real money.
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