Second round continues tonight with two games on the schedule:
Bruins (1)- Blue Jackets (2), 7:30 pm start, TV-NBCSN
Sharks (2)- Avalanche (1), 10 pm start, TV-NBCSN
Also, click here to read Carp’s NYR top prospects rankings from the Athletic
Second round continues tonight with two games on the schedule:
Bruins (1)- Blue Jackets (2), 7:30 pm start, TV-NBCSN
Sharks (2)- Avalanche (1), 10 pm start, TV-NBCSN
Also, click here to read Carp’s NYR top prospects rankings from the Athletic
156 responses to “It’s Go Time!”
FIRE SATHER!
Let’s Go Bluejackets.
Adam,
from previous post, the fox signing really only accelerates things if he is better than and replacing one of Pionk, Tony or Shatty (unlikely the latter) and the other two are either cut entirely or one remains as a third pair with a solid lefty partner. But would still need a true top pair to be acquired or emerge from within. No small task there.
All for adding Panarin as we could have a great group of top 6 wingers in short order and would ease burden on Chytil or whoever else is slotted as 2nd line center
I hope Marchand cost them the series.
Doc and Milbury so blatantly pro Boston. It’s despicable.
5 minutes
Wow, cbj got lucky there.
Refs doing everything they can to give Columbus the game.
This is hockey!
Imagine if the let them play this way always??
Big Boy Hockey!!!
Best game in the world!
Papa
It would be a great game to watch and it would be more popular.
It’s a shame they ruin it with the all star crap the majority of the regular season,
Agree, Wick.
Pulling for Columbus but they sure are living dangerously. A bogus goal and an elbow for only 2:00 is pretty darned lucky.
Elbow was a graze wound
Blue Jackets are bringing it
They’re Buzzing
Umm…Backes embellished that to make contact with the goaltender as far as the angle I saw
The Gerund is getting a lot of minutes for the Jackets and has been quite physical.
Plenty of time, but Jackwts gotta stay out of the box.
Rask is a brick wall tonight, love playoff hockey!
A good 20 minutes…
The Gerund. Hahahaha. Loved that one.
Tire Fires still stuck on ugotz?
Carp sighting?
Bruins are going to even the series.
Plenty of time.
Dumbass Columbus giveaway.
Just waiting for the fat lady….
Columbus threw this game away when they dominated in the second and came away with zippo.
A PP goal here would be useful.
Those shots stunk. Too much passing and bad wish passes at that.
Carp is off the milk carton, now is only on the half and half carton.
The fat lady just stepped up to the mic.
Turn out the lights…
I hope there really is no momentum from game to game because the jackets have absolutely given up on this one.
Tire Fires = UGOTZ
The backes bonus works again
From Pronman…
Presume for this exercise Jack Hughes and Kaapo Kakko are the first two picks. I would not say that is a 100 percent certainty, but I would be 95 percent confident it happens based on discussions with NHL sources
Who else could it be?
Lmao…a concerned ranger fan cited the exact thing I did to Pronman in his Q&A section, here was the response….
My best guess based on limited footwork is NYR would pick JH or KK. The 5% chance accounts for 1. Trade 2. Freak injury 3. Something weird happening at worlds 4. Something weird happening in NJD/NYR hockey ops.
Sorry if this was posted before
https://www.tsn.ca/bettman-banning-hits-to-head-would-mean-end-of-all-hits-in-nhl-1.1299357
Go Avs!
this late game – series is the only one i’m truly neutral on (like both teams)
the other series i want Carolina, Boston and Dallas (due to the pick, don’t dislike St Louis though.
Another 2-2 after 4.
Good morning, boneheads!
2-2 after 4 around the league. Except the Fishsticks. UGOTZ!
Maybe they do not want to go back to Brooklyn? Their wish may become reality tonight.
Pete,
No small task indeed.
Meanwhile, as we RANGERS FANS concern ourselves with Adam Fox and upgrading the defense, Larry Brooks writes of the curious case of the missing Jordan Eberle in the Post this morning.
For a team struggling to score on the injury-ridden yet opportunistic Candy Canes, it is interesting Eberle has been used so little a the ends of games when a game-tying goal has been needed.
Furthermore, Coach of Year Candidate Trotz is leaving open the possibility of starting Greiss in goal. Oy vey!
All kidding aside I would expect the Islanders to play their best game of the series tonight and get a W.
Carolina may be feeling pressure for the first time since the post season began. That coupled with the thought of having a good long breather while Boston and Columbus pound each other may not leave them with the best on-ice result. Then again according to the Isle homers the long break isn’t an advantage so who knows.
Speaking of Boston, put the top line aside for a minute. If jekyll and hyde Rask is going to play like Dr Jekyll the rest of the way then Boston shouldn’t have a problem making it to the ECF. He was impressive last night.
No one wants to play in Brooklyn, ILB. Ice sucks. Ask any Isle fan
Interesting Azzlander fans are making excuses about “bad ice” — as if the 2019 Islanders are the 1997 Red Wings.
But a cursory Google search finds Islander web blogs ran by fans chastising the Pittsburgh Penguins, most notably Evgeni Malkin for complaining about the “bad ice” at the Mausoleum for “making excuses”….
Meanwhile, aren’t these same fans making the same excuses for their own flawed team now that the shoe is most certainly on the other foot?
Pure “class” those Islanders fans are.
My thought for today- We’ve been talking for a year or so now about ‘the Boston model’ and how Gorton wants to follow that model and how they really turned it around quickly etc etc.
The best thing that team did was drafting Pasternak and having him become what he is. Without that top line they’re still a very good team with a couple of older star players but not over the top IMO.
Personally, I think the Rangers with Kakko (or JH) are a lot closer to that model.
Although, I was thinking about it and had to laugh because there’s a nice chunk of that roster that some of the New York fans would instantly dislike if they were Rangers. Danton Heinen, Charlie McAvoy in New York? Good chance they’re looked at as over hyped.
Good point James. And we’d be pleading with the team to buy out Chara.
We love Lee
But Nino’s the one scoring
And Lehner isn’t god
We just can’t win
And so it goes
Since 1983
This thing they call the Cup
It’s not a guarantee
I’ve had the blues
The orange and the whites
One thing for sure
our ice stinks yeah yeah
(ice stinks)
ice stinks yeah yeah
KH- Don’t get me wrong, I’m not attempting to stir the pot with those comments. If anything just want to put it in perspective. Sometimes it seems like certain piece don’t fit and then once you sprinkle in some top line talent things fall into place a bit. I doubt there’s a single team that doesn’t have at least 1 or 2 players that would raise the Blood pressure of some fans in NY. But the ones in Boston are part of a squad that’s getting it done right now.
Sounds like Rykov isn’t agreeable to the terms of an entry level contract at the moment. Wonder if that makes him expendable at the draft?
Funny about Lehner — ask any Islander fan throughout the season about Lehner and they would simply smile and say “yeah, he’s god”
But that comes from a team who really hasn’t had a legit winning goaltender since Kelly Hrudey.
But James you do bring up a great point.
We act as if in a bubble, where we are the only NHL team carrying and paying dead wood…
Many of these very teams in the playoffs are carrying the same dead wood, and yet somehow make it work. Like Boston.
Worse – we could be Tampa with Callahan. (Ducks)
Don’t both teams play on the same ice?
If anything they should have the advantage being used to playing on sh!tty ice more often than other teams
Admiral also to your point- because I haven’t brought it up yet because I’m still kind of working it out in my head so bear with me-
At least Tampa is somewhat balanced aside from not having physicality in the line up.
In looking at the TO model I see a trap many teams can fall into. You have a new GM that’s got a high profile NHL coach but undoubtedly wants to bring his guy in sooner than later (Keefe) and you have a roster that’s built “backwards” in the sense that the old school rule of thumb is build from the net out.
Successful teams have crazy depth at center these days. BUT I think there’s more to it. Committing a ton of money to your forwards without the balancing act really does prevents you from having a well rounded roster. I think there’s a “right time” to pull the trigger on the center depth unless you’re blessed by draft picks. and it isn’t until a bunch of other pieces are in place so to speak. In TO case oodles of that cash up front is tied up at center. So they’ve kind of painted themselves into a corner a bit. You have the Marner situation after signing Nylander because you needed to a hang onto him. Kappanen is a nice player but will probably be too expensive to keep at some point and you still need to fill out a bottom six and a couple D-men?
It’s a bit of a mess as they go forward. Meanwhile the window is open and they don’t have the defense or goalie capable of making it past the first round. Now the easy reaction is ‘well just start making trades of F for D.’ Not always that simple. Especially when Dmen acquired in trades have pretty hefty contracts themselves unless you’re adding 5-6 guys.
I want to tie that all together and bring it back to having to have some cheaper secondary guys like Boston has but I’m out of steam lol. Told you I didn’t have it organized in my head yet : D
Beezle- don’t ever spit in the wind, tug on Superman’s cape or request a logical response from an Islander fan.
Glad to see some of you are seeing the light!
Nicely done James
Shesterkin and Kravstov now official.
Rykov….?
Baby Rangers should be fun to watch next season. It remains to be seen how good they’ll be, but they won’t be boring.
Welcome to the family, boys. Now how do you say “better strap your balls on tight” in Russian?
Doodie, Carp mentioned that Gorton is working on the deal with Rykov but that’s about as much as we’ve had to go on. Hope there’s no issue.
Wicky*- not Doodie.
Rob I’m starting to wonder if Kravtsov is the dark horse for next year. all the eyes will be on KK and Shestyorkin. Maybe this kid makes a big splash.
Rangers are in dire need of a big splash, you know somebody that is talked about on the NHL network more than once a week.
The big question for me other than fixing the blueline that’s a disaster, is who will center the 2nd line?
If you don’t follow Avery on Instagram, you’re making a big mistake.
He obviously misses hockey.
Warning: Bad language 🙂
I for got to add, 2nd line center in the so called accelerated rebuild?
here’s a potential 2C: Zibanejad (hint: if a certain offer sheet works?)
As stated a couple of days ago, Boston model presumed excellent drafting and first line players. NYR has yet to prove how good their picks are at the NHL level and no top players.
Other than that, spot on…
Tonight is the night the isles start to make history and begin their epic reverse sweep. Oh da pain. 😉
Carp said offer sheet…. Well the famous CBA unicorn finally make an appearance? 😲
Kreider made a big splash.
The only center worth offer sheeting is Point. That would be pretty awesome. They should have offer sheeted Stamkos way back when, and then kucherov later.
Avery misses hockey? You mean the frustrated movie star?
While not perfect, MacAvoy (mid R1 pick) has been playing first pair D with the ghost of Chara since he stepped on the ice as a rook.
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That is called excellent drafting.
Carp are you trying to make a Point?
I watched the TSN video report on the hearings with Bettman in Canada. I like physical play. In fact, that has been the best feature of this year’s playoffs. But for him to deny the science on head injuries and CTE, for him to say that fighting still has a place in the game (although the instigator rule has been discarded by refs) and that if head hits were eliminated that all hitting would disappear is silly. USA youth hockey has a head contact penalty and the physicality is definitely still there. In some leagues, head contact is a 2+10 penalty. This is just so disingenuous, and an effort to escape responsibility for the NHL turning a blind eye to head shots……including gutting the NHLDPS after Shanahan had it off to a good start. It paints a picture f the NHL owners being a bunch of Brian Burke-like neanderthals who romanticize the play of guys like Scott Stevens. When he took Paul Kariya’s head off in the 2003 finals, the Ducks GM Brian Murray’s comment after the game was that Kariya needed to stop complaining and keep his head up. Kariya forced a trade out of Anaheim after that, and his career was ended as a result of multiple head injuries. IMO, if the NHLDPS was allowed to actually punish head shots appropriately, this would be an improvement. I wuld like to see the US Congress have like hearings and let Bettman go on record there as well. Perhaps legislation will be the only way to fix this.
Interesting tidbit about Canes – Azzdancers series; both teams no longer with their leading scorer from the past 6 seasons and made it further than they have in a long long time so top level talent is not the answer; takes a full team to advance and hoist the hardware.
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Skinner was traded for Cliff Pu, a 3rd and a 6th. Pu stinks, subsequently traded, and those picks are mostly garbage. They literally gave him away.
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Not the type of player to help them win in POs.
wonder what the trade market is for Chytil?
A lot of chatter about Detroit and their new…ahem President of hockey operations offer sheeting Point since SOMEone new to the Red Wings organization may have the inside track on TB’s salary cap plans…
Not the ‘only’ answer
Carp, is that your own speculation or a birdie in your ear regarding Point?
SN, the thing is that Carolina didn’t plan on paying Skinner what he was going to be looking for and thus were going to losing him for nothing anyhow. Now the guy’s probably going to be looking for 7-8 mill a season when he was a ghost for the last 25 games this year.
Carolina’s new owner had a lot to do with that too. They should have gotten at least a package similar to what the Sabres got for O’Reilly.
Buttman setting league up for a rather large legal payout shortly with those comments. Sounds like NFL only a couple of years ago.
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One thought on fighting – make taking the gloves off a game misconduct; not fighting.
Point is the return on Skinner was anemic at best; basically gave him away.
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Brassard was traded for Mika as a point of comparison
Imagine being gullible enough to consider there being a birdie in Mr. Carpiniello’s ear giving him information on a possible offer sheet. The only offer sheet option available to the Rangers is the four first round picks. Unlikely at this point.
Can’t understand the logic about Chytil, SN. What’s the point? We think he’s not going to be very good but we’re going to trade him somewhere that they have high hopes for him?
And then I guess we get a king’s ransom and he never turns into a player that could really help this organization over the next few years?
I think the 19 year old kid with the skill should get a little longer of a look on a team with a bit more structure and capability. Unless of course someone really is stupid enough to trade you a franchise player who is in their 20s for him but I think that’s just something that’s been crafted here to be able to say “I’d trade Chytil”
Regarding McAvoy being excellent drafting, how about the three picks in a row they had in the teens the year before they took McAvoy. Debrusk looks like a player, but Zboril and Senyshyn? Yikes.
I’m in agreement, SN. No argument here. Terrible trade regardless of how far the Canes go this season.
Well said, Adam L. Gullible is the perfect word. I remember that time I was gullible enough to believe that birdie in Mr. Carpiniello’s ear giving him information on how they were going to trade Mcdonagh too….Oh wait….go crawl away like the Tic/Tik you are.
Doodie, proof that even well managed teams strike out in the draft on occasion.
Hopefully we’ll have at least a couple of players that will really shine despite of some of the prospects that have looked very average to this point. My guess is Kravtsov may pleasantly surprise us.
The draft is a crapshoot no doubt. Getting Panarin, MacAvoy and DeBrusk outside of top 10 helps the rebuild be a retool.
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RE Chytil – not a fan right now, hoping he rounds his game out to be less of a me-first, no D, in and out type player. Still young so he has 3-4 years to prove differently for some unless of course he gets passed up by Kratsov and/or Kakko who play more of an inside out game.
Well said, SN. Interested to see if Kravtsov spends some time at center this season too
Offer sheet…wha?!
Where have we heard that before?
This is just the Minx talking, but I really believe that Chytil is going to surprise all of us. He’s 19 and he will figure it out let’s not give up on him just yet. Where he fits on the roster next year is the real issue. With the possibility of a UFA center coming in he may be better off in Hartford for 1 year. In my opinion moving him to wing is not an option.
I don’t get the chytil thing…I mean I guess it’s just how people are but just because someone says they aren’t a fan of chytil or they don’t think he’s a first ballot hall of famer (like some here make him out to be) doesn’t mean he sucks or has no value.
I think chytil will be a decent nhl player and I think he has good trade value (especially to a team with cap issues).
I love what Vegas did. Mcphee has class. Moves up to President of operations and puts McKrimmon slides into the GM chair in Vegas instead of Edmonton. Way to retain a guy that helped put that team together.
Since carp brought up offer sheets, I’ll repost the question I posted earlier this week…
Does getting the 2nd overall pick in this draft make it more likely for the rangers to do an offer sheet that requires first rounders as compensation?
Wick, not sure if having a top 3 pick means as much as the overall success of this draft. I think if they wind up with three quality first rounders this season it could make it tempting. It depends on the player being offer sheeted too.
Beyond this summer I think a lot also depends on how some of these young guys perform. Including the ones they take this year.
Wick, quite honestly I think it’s just about how someone interprets another poster’s comments or questions.
For instance, in this case, when SN said he wondered what the market was for Chytil I didn’t think he was barking that Chytil sucks or this and that. Just that he’d be curious what the market would be for a sophmore who showed skill and a poor display of NHL capability beyond his offensive talent.
He’ll probably be a good player. I’m more concerned with whether he’s a good fit. For example if he and Kravtsov have chemistry or if he fuels a PP at some point etc. On the other hand if he shows himself to be a defensive disaster like Hayes was in year 2, is he too much of a liability for a team that plays Quinn’s style or with a roster constructed with too many offensive Dmen.
giving up 4 number 1’s would be as bad as it gets. add it to 10 million cap hit. talk about putting all your eggs in 1 basket. if we’re that foolish to go that route i hope the other team is foolish enough to match to save us from ourselves.
rather overpay a ufa.
Also, Not sure Point is the guy I’d want to tandem with Zibanejad. The point production at center would be excellent. Just not sure they balance each other out too well. Considering what we’ve been seeing in these playoffs you may not want to construct a team down the middle with 2 or 3 guys that shy away from or don’t really have a game with a physical edge to it.
like they did with Shatty? lol
James
I’d rather overpay breadman than give up 4 number 1’s and still have a huge cap hit for Marner or Point
I don’t blame you one bit, Alex. I think it’s a big sacrifice. While they’ve stock piled some picks the last couple of years we’ve seen what happens when they sacrifice too many as well.
Panarin’s going to Florida, btw.
Although Marner is pretty tempting…
On that topic- NO to Skinner. IMHO of course.
Love to have a McPhee here. Not upstairs, on the ice.
Since BDL isn’t here I’ll say this- I don’t think Zibanejad is going to duplicate his offense from this season. I think he’s going to settle in as a nice 60 point center. Would love if they could slide him into 2C for the remainder of his tenure and have someone as a legit 1C.
On a différent topic for a moment, this head injury/concussion topic is just hard to take seriously until they focus on the main cause of it, the speed of the game not the occasional fight.
James, how sure are you that Bread is going to Fla?
Who would have believed that JT Miller’s career highlight here and elsewhere would be his being caught with brass knuckles?
James, Sather needs a place to retire to so as part of the deal, Sather will pay Breadman 1M for his 700K condo down there.
Sather hunting for Moose in Boca; Searching for Early-Bird Specials in Banff. The mind is a terrible thing to…
they just need to call the rule book Wicky
slowing the game by things like putting back in the red line for 2 line passing purposes would be a major setback to the league.
none of the RFAs available this summer are worth four first round picks and that is the only type we can really offer now given the Fox deal.
Let’s see if Boston makes it past the second round before giving them too much credit
If they draft in the first round for four more years to you think they come up with one Brayden Point? Just asking.
Carp
Point and company also went down meekly. Toronto not as meekly but with all that offensive talent they’re done too.
Plus it’s not just the 4 picks (although that’s huge). it’s 10 million plus cap hit on top of that.
We’re seeing this years playoffs. So many of the “best players” are already home while the seemingly best teams keep playing.
if I was Tampa and someone offer sheet’d Point I’d take the compensation if it was 4 1st rd picks plus the cap room.
so would you rather have an older Panarin or Point?
I’d rather Panarin plus the 4 picks than Point
and that’s how we’re going to judge players, then is Barzal better than Matthews?
I’m not sure i disagree on Panarin and the 4 picks over Point.
does anybody else have to enter new info every time you comment?
not I
Every single time, Carp.
Would we call him Breezy Point?
Premium Point, Coos
Carp I love when you’re around.
Scottsdale I’m about as sure as you are that the Isles can come back from being down 0-3 🙂
Bettman nonsense is all about protecting the stars of the league. He will continue to tweak and create new rules to give them every opportunity to shine hassle free.
Then the refs pull a 180 in the post season. He’ll have to work on that next.
For what it’s worth Eliminating the clutch and grab and then eliminating the role of the enforcer May have opened up the game for stars but it made the game faster and that’s more dangerous than any staged.
And Carp, I’d rather have Point over Panarin. No question about it. I just think they’d need some snark at 3C and 4C if that was the case.
Pete I’ve never heard anyone make such a statement regarding a second rounder and a conditional second rounder lol.
“Well we would have had an opportunity but you know….we gave up that second round pick…real shame” 😂😂😂
I mean this team will have made 6 or 7 first round picks in the last three years by this summer. How many more until it’s safe to trade a R1 again? 3 years? 5? 10?
Not to mention out of those 7 most here already think that 3 or 4 are in the range of mediocre to just decent at their best.
Point is a little better than decent, ya know?
By the way don’t be surprised if they select another D man or two similar to Dylan Mcilrath this year. Can’t have six offensive D playing at once. Or four or five for that matter.
At least Fox should be an upgrade over at least two of the current bunch
So 100%, James?
Carp on re inputting my info, yes every time
James – big difference between trading 1 number 1 and trading 4 number 1’s
James
when they were younger/healthier both Girardi and Staal were good in their own zone. Staal would match up pretty well vs AO. As was Kevin Klein in the d zone. To me all 3 were better types to go for than McIlrath types.
just stating the reality of what type of offer sheet we could make now that has any chance of not being matched. anything that requires next year’s second seems to be off the table because of Fox. wasn’t a judgment on the fox deal itself (though as stated i do think we bid against ourselves).
Gorton would have to be convinced the Rangers are playoff team the next four years and enough of his recent picks will pan out as will Point to make such a trade. Also it’s taking a 12-15m a year deal for 7 years before a team like tampa walks from Point. Tampa can also get clever and offer a shorter deal with less AAV given the tax savings. Seems too steep for Point and even more so for Marner given he is a wing.
McDonagh was too. And Stralman Brothers Band. …
But I think they’re counting on Hajek, Lindgren, Rykov to be defensive players of the future. … and sure they’d like to add a youngish veteran who knows how to defend.
Pete
Can’t do one involving the 3 pick either since both 2 and 3 are embargoed due to Fox deal
This is an enjoyable process to watch unfold.
good point Alex. Don’t see them going this route
You only have to enter stuff every time if Doodie has moved you to milk carton status. He has not done that to me……..yet.
I’m not sure marner is a player to scoff at, even if he’s a winger.
Carp – normally if something like that is happening (I don’t mean showing up on milk cartons) it is because the cookies the site is setting are being lost. Do you have some type of privacy protection software or browser plugin?
If not, the next time I make a milk carton for you I’ll add some cookies to it as well!
Anyone bringing a broom out to watch the Isles tonight? It might be the most joy we get out of the playoffs this year.
The Gerund was always a chart boy favorite on the Rangers. I wonder what his numbers were like in Columbus. Did Torts turn him into a shot blocker?
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