We have a decent sized break until the All Star game. I’ll make new posts every 300 comments or so until then.
105 responses to “Clean Slate, Grab It”
ilb2001
Good morning, boneheads!
I grabbed it.
UKRanger
Time for the snoozefest of All-Star weekend
Rangers Report 2.0
I know I’m in the minority, but I love all star weekend. I love the skills competition (although not as much as I used to) and I love the all star game.
ilb2001
I like it too, not as much as I used to though. Doubt I’ll have time to watch it this weekend
St Pete Eli
My re-post from early this morning! Good morning Boneheads TGIF and no Ranger game to whine over! 5th in Metro still a possibility! My question which team takes the ice after the break? Oct. Champs or Jan. Chumps? I love this team just not sure they have the fire to make a statement under this coach! Will The enigma force us to change his name down the stretch? And where is The Miami Pimp?
cooscoos
And yet another long break. Like Middle School.
Beezle
I am actually optimistic about their play in the second half now that they are mostly healthy, not withstanding the loss of K. Bongs. I do think they should bring Graves up for a spell and rotate him in for four or five games to see what they have. But with HL looking a bit more focused and the overall team paying a bit more attention to D, they should definitely be on the good side of win/loss column. It won’t be without frustration but they wouldn’t be the NYR if they were not.
Prognosticating about playoffs in Jan. is perilous – momentum and injuries can turn the tables very quickly on the favorities.
Hockey Sittoo
Carp (and everyone else!), do you think Lundqvist makes the cut tonight for 100 greatest players? I didn’t think he had a chance (the “no Cups” argument), but he made Lozo, McIndoe, and Wyshynski’s book. Thoughts?
cooscoos
Has Vesey been cowed into submission?
wicky229
We had to watch a month of all star game hockey to start the season…I can do without more.
Rangers Report 2.0
It’s the greatest pick up game on earth.
SN
Great pick up game if your goalie isn’t playing.
Rangers Report 2.0
And he’s not.
SN
won’t watch; not even sure what day/time it is on.
4 on 4 should be a minimum; 3 on 3 is a farce
The only All-Star Game (from all sports, not just hockey) that I ever watched from start to finish was the 1994 NHL All-Star Game because I was at the Garden.
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I love 3 on 3 for the all star game. All I want to see is highlight reel goals.
I’d be somewhat surprised if Lundqvist is in the top 100, given one Vezina, no Cups, and where he stands in statistical categories all-time. However, if it’s between him and Giacomin, I think it’s Lundqvist.
I loved the baseball all-star game as a kid. And I’d argue there was never a better box score in sports history than this one (it was also the night Reggie Jackson hit the light tower in Tiger Stadium). Count the all-time greats:
If the NHL was smart, the list would be loaded with current players. But it isn’t, so it won’t be.
wicky229
I’m sure Avery is in the top 50…and stepan and fast.
wicky229
You’d think a hockey blog would have something about the nesterov deal (as minor as it is)…QAV;)
cooscoos
Loved MLB All-Star game as a kid; not so much now, but it’s the only All Star game I will watch if I watch at all.
Rangers Report 2.0
For the Rangers, you figure Leetch, and Messier are locks, then possibly Howell, Bathgate, Gilbert, and Park.
As for the players who were here briefly, Gretzky and Jagr are locks. Lindros, Dionne, Bure, Gartner, shanahan, lafontaine possible.
Also, since this is in LA, I wouldn’t count out Robitaille.
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Wicky, QAV is giving me too much praise at this point.
That was a great trade for the Canadiens. Basically got a young puck moving defenseman for free.
Hockey Sittoo
Thanks Carp. I kind of thought the same thing. Lozo et al included him saying:
“Since making his debut in 2005-06, Lundqvist leads all goaltenders in wins, shutouts, save percentage, grooming and is second in goals-against average. Among goaltenders to make at least 60 postseason starts over that time, Lundqvist is first in save percentage, wins, shutouts, grooming again and is third in goals-against average, trailing leader Jonathan Quick by 0.02.”
He’s also only goalie in history to get 20 wins in each of his first 12 years (would have been 30 but for the lockout). I hope he makes it, but not holding my breath.
Anybody here know where the handicap entrance is to the Garden? Had knee surgery Tuesday & am going to the Torts game.
Hockey Sittoo
Noblewines pretty sure it is the main entrance on 7th Ave. I recall they have ramps on both sides of steps and I think there are wheelchair lifts etc once you are in. Good luck!
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Feel better!
CCCP
Columbus Blue Jackets head coach John Tortorella returned home to Columbus to care for a sick family dog.
The dog that is ailing is his son Nick’s 10-year-old pit bull, Emma. Nick is a U.S. Army Ranger stationed abroad.
“I needed to see this through,” Tortorella said.
Tortorella is a noted animal activist, starting the John and Christine Tortorella Family Foundation which raises money to protect children, animals and the environment from harm.
The hockey news.
Bdl
If Price is in the top 100, than Hank should be.
Bdl
Carp,
How the heck was Don Kessinger, and Glen Beckart in that game.
Bdl
As far as Rangers in the top 100, Gilbert, Ratelle, Park, Messier, and Leetch.
Speaking of Ratelle. Does anyone else think Kevin Hayes reminds you of Jean Ratelle?
Rangers Report 2.0
Ratelle isn’t getting a sniff.
Rangers Report 2.0
I did forget Espo. He’s in.
Rangers Report 2.0
And for that matter, I really don’t think Gilbert will, either.
James G
Last time I watched an all star game in its entirety I’m pretty sure Brian Leetch was representing us.
Feel better, Noble! Enjoy the game!
Bdl
Mike Gartner?
Bdl
How many Montreal Canadiens will be on the list.
Rangers Report 2.0
Too many.
Rangers Report 2.0
If Gartner gets on, it’s almost purely for goals. The 700+ total, the 15 consecutive 30 goal seasons; it’s hard to ignore.
Bdl
I was going to compare Gartner with Ovechkin, and they are comparable, but all those 50 goal seasons Ovechkin has separates him.
Rangers Report 2.0
Absolutely. There’s certainly a compiler aspect to Gartner, but he’s still in the top 25 in goals per game, if I’m not mistaken.
Norm Merton
What’s so great about goal-scoring?
Rangers Report 2.0
Something crazy I just saw looking up Gartner’s all time goals per game (23): Crosby is 5th all time in points per game and Ovechkin is 6th all time in goals per game. In the dead puck era.
I don’t know about Hank being in the celebrated 100, but Pirri definitely belongs there.
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SN, I sent you a response earlier
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I think Lundqvist is in, simply because they show him on the commercial
wicky229
Doods
No email
E3
Wicky
No email
E3
Hank is pretty. Far more so than Hansel.
E3
I got me a nasty azz head cold. Even my teeth hurt.
SN
Doods – check again, new email
E3
SN
Where’s my email?
wicky229
Coos
No email
Olga Folkyerself
LQ doesn’t belong in top 100. and the Early years will be sorely under-represented, I think.
Norm Merton
OK, I’ll bite. WHO THE HELL IS ‘LQ’? oops…never mind…fingered it out. Nickname phobia. Reminds me of my fear of being named Pope: Namapapaphobia.
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SN, I haven’t received anything from you since 4:22, and I responded to it around 5
Alex
Ratelle well deserved
Rod deserved it as well but didn’t make it
Olga Folkyerself
Park and Ratelle. Worst trade Emile ever made.
Rangers Report 2.0
Pretty shocked on Ratelle. And serge/lemaire… Hoo boy.
Olga Folkyerself
There’s a lot of Ranger rentals on the list.
Rangers Report 2.0
No Pierre Pilote?
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Olga, that’s because our MO was to grab HOF players once they were washed up
Olga Folkyerself
That’s Entertainment RR, not smart management.
Olga Folkyerself
Potvin Sucks
Olga Folkyerself
So does Billy Smith
Alex
Olga equal as worst trade he made was Middleton for Ken Hodge
Olga Folkyerself
For that matter, So does Booby Clarke…
Olga Folkyerself
John Folking Ferguson Made the Middleton trade. May he sit in Hell, right between Hitler and Stalin.
Olga Folkyerself
Can’t argue with too many choices for greatest 100. I’m not sure that too many current players should have been included. Jagr for sure, maybe Ovechkin. The others have too much career left to be included yet. If their careers ended today, would they still be on the top 100 list?
Hockey Sittoo
I personally think it is absurd that Toews and Kane made that list. But whatever…
Olga Folkyerself
That’s kinda what I was saying. And I’m a Black Hawks fan. Not yet, not yet.
Hockey Sittoo
Olga the NHL has a weird obsession with the Black Hawks. Naming 3 of the only 6 active players to make the list from that one team is over the top. No wonder Malkin suddenly developed a “lower body injury” and had to miss the all star weekend…
Olga Folkyerself
No real argument here, I think they were obsessed with the 3 Cups. But Folk Malkin anyway.
No Rod Gilbert is a little silly. Duncan Keith? Really?
James G
Duncan Keith (all due respect) is the only example I need to support my opinion that these modern day NHL “top anything” shows are BS and a gimmick. thus I have no interest in it.
CCCP
No Slava Fetisov? No Alex Mogilny? Larionov?!
MALKIN?!
RIGGED!
CCCP
Zubov? Kovalev?! Slava Kozlov?!
without Kozlov, Fetisov, Fedorov, Larionov, Konstantinov there is no Red Wings dynasty. Stoopid NHL.
No one is really getting excited about this silly list are they? It was just an attempt by NBC and the NHL to get someone to watch NBCSN last night. Award shows are all dumb. This was worst than most of them.
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I’d actually argue Keith deserves it more than Toews.
CCCP, while those players were fantastic, a lot of their best hockey was outside of the NHL. In the NHL, they were important parts of the Wings, but not top 100.
Malkin, on the other hand, is a travesty.
Rangers Report 2.0
BTW, Fedorov rightly made the list.
Rangers Report 2.0
I’m going to put up a go time post for the game tomorrow, then starting on Monday we’ve got some great guest blogs lined up. Really great stuff. So great that I saved them for Monday just so they get the attention they deserve.
CCCP
La-da-da-da-dahh
It’s the mothertruckingone and only D-O-double-G (Snoop Dogg!)
They were saying that Larkin got a running start, while McDavid went from a standing start. Which makes the record bogus. As if it wasn’t bogus anyway.
Norm Merton
Ratelle my favorite Ranger, loved how he played. But him in, Malkin out? Please.
105 responses to “Clean Slate, Grab It”
Good morning, boneheads!
I grabbed it.
Time for the snoozefest of All-Star weekend
I know I’m in the minority, but I love all star weekend. I love the skills competition (although not as much as I used to) and I love the all star game.
I like it too, not as much as I used to though. Doubt I’ll have time to watch it this weekend
My re-post from early this morning! Good morning Boneheads TGIF and no Ranger game to whine over! 5th in Metro still a possibility! My question which team takes the ice after the break? Oct. Champs or Jan. Chumps? I love this team just not sure they have the fire to make a statement under this coach! Will The enigma force us to change his name down the stretch? And where is The Miami Pimp?
And yet another long break. Like Middle School.
I am actually optimistic about their play in the second half now that they are mostly healthy, not withstanding the loss of K. Bongs. I do think they should bring Graves up for a spell and rotate him in for four or five games to see what they have. But with HL looking a bit more focused and the overall team paying a bit more attention to D, they should definitely be on the good side of win/loss column. It won’t be without frustration but they wouldn’t be the NYR if they were not.
Prognosticating about playoffs in Jan. is perilous – momentum and injuries can turn the tables very quickly on the favorities.
Carp (and everyone else!), do you think Lundqvist makes the cut tonight for 100 greatest players? I didn’t think he had a chance (the “no Cups” argument), but he made Lozo, McIndoe, and Wyshynski’s book. Thoughts?
Has Vesey been cowed into submission?
We had to watch a month of all star game hockey to start the season…I can do without more.
It’s the greatest pick up game on earth.
Great pick up game if your goalie isn’t playing.
And he’s not.
won’t watch; not even sure what day/time it is on.
4 on 4 should be a minimum; 3 on 3 is a farce
Doodie/RR2 – email
The only All-Star Game (from all sports, not just hockey) that I ever watched from start to finish was the 1994 NHL All-Star Game because I was at the Garden.
I love 3 on 3 for the all star game. All I want to see is highlight reel goals.
My favorite moment of any all star game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpw5J-nqSQw
The only all star game that even resembles an actual game is baseball. The problem with that is: it’s baseball. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
I’d be somewhat surprised if Lundqvist is in the top 100, given one Vezina, no Cups, and where he stands in statistical categories all-time. However, if it’s between him and Giacomin, I think it’s Lundqvist.
Wonder if HOF Clark Gillies will be in the top 50.
I loved the baseball all-star game as a kid. And I’d argue there was never a better box score in sports history than this one (it was also the night Reggie Jackson hit the light tower in Tiger Stadium). Count the all-time greats:
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/asgbox/07131971.shtml
If the NHL was smart, the list would be loaded with current players. But it isn’t, so it won’t be.
I’m sure Avery is in the top 50…and stepan and fast.
You’d think a hockey blog would have something about the nesterov deal (as minor as it is)…QAV;)
Loved MLB All-Star game as a kid; not so much now, but it’s the only All Star game I will watch if I watch at all.
For the Rangers, you figure Leetch, and Messier are locks, then possibly Howell, Bathgate, Gilbert, and Park.
As for the players who were here briefly, Gretzky and Jagr are locks. Lindros, Dionne, Bure, Gartner, shanahan, lafontaine possible.
Also, since this is in LA, I wouldn’t count out Robitaille.
Wicky, QAV is giving me too much praise at this point.
That was a great trade for the Canadiens. Basically got a young puck moving defenseman for free.
Thanks Carp. I kind of thought the same thing. Lozo et al included him saying:
“Since making his debut in 2005-06, Lundqvist leads all goaltenders in wins, shutouts, save percentage, grooming and is second in goals-against average. Among goaltenders to make at least 60 postseason starts over that time, Lundqvist is first in save percentage, wins, shutouts, grooming again and is third in goals-against average, trailing leader Jonathan Quick by 0.02.”
He’s also only goalie in history to get 20 wins in each of his first 12 years (would have been 30 but for the lockout). I hope he makes it, but not holding my breath.
Speaking of Chimeras, The Island of Dr. Moreau is becoming a reality: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/01/human-pig-hybrid-embryo-chimera-organs-health-science/
Anybody here know where the handicap entrance is to the Garden? Had knee surgery Tuesday & am going to the Torts game.
Noblewines pretty sure it is the main entrance on 7th Ave. I recall they have ramps on both sides of steps and I think there are wheelchair lifts etc once you are in. Good luck!
Feel better!
Columbus Blue Jackets head coach John Tortorella returned home to Columbus to care for a sick family dog.
The dog that is ailing is his son Nick’s 10-year-old pit bull, Emma. Nick is a U.S. Army Ranger stationed abroad.
“I needed to see this through,” Tortorella said.
Tortorella is a noted animal activist, starting the John and Christine Tortorella Family Foundation which raises money to protect children, animals and the environment from harm.
The hockey news.
If Price is in the top 100, than Hank should be.
Carp,
How the heck was Don Kessinger, and Glen Beckart in that game.
As far as Rangers in the top 100, Gilbert, Ratelle, Park, Messier, and Leetch.
And fast and stepan 😉
Not Brassard?😀
I forgot Espo. Though I guess he is more a Bruin.
RR2
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Ratelle should make the list
Thank you
Speaking of Ratelle. Does anyone else think Kevin Hayes reminds you of Jean Ratelle?
Ratelle isn’t getting a sniff.
I did forget Espo. He’s in.
And for that matter, I really don’t think Gilbert will, either.
Last time I watched an all star game in its entirety I’m pretty sure Brian Leetch was representing us.
Feel better, Noble! Enjoy the game!
Mike Gartner?
How many Montreal Canadiens will be on the list.
Too many.
If Gartner gets on, it’s almost purely for goals. The 700+ total, the 15 consecutive 30 goal seasons; it’s hard to ignore.
I was going to compare Gartner with Ovechkin, and they are comparable, but all those 50 goal seasons Ovechkin has separates him.
Absolutely. There’s certainly a compiler aspect to Gartner, but he’s still in the top 25 in goals per game, if I’m not mistaken.
What’s so great about goal-scoring?
Something crazy I just saw looking up Gartner’s all time goals per game (23): Crosby is 5th all time in points per game and Ovechkin is 6th all time in goals per game. In the dead puck era.
Doods – email
I don’t know about Hank being in the celebrated 100, but Pirri definitely belongs there.
SN, I sent you a response earlier
I think Lundqvist is in, simply because they show him on the commercial
Doods
No email
Wicky
No email
Hank is pretty. Far more so than Hansel.
I got me a nasty azz head cold. Even my teeth hurt.
Doods – check again, new email
SN
Where’s my email?
Coos
No email
LQ doesn’t belong in top 100. and the Early years will be sorely under-represented, I think.
OK, I’ll bite. WHO THE HELL IS ‘LQ’? oops…never mind…fingered it out. Nickname phobia. Reminds me of my fear of being named Pope: Namapapaphobia.
SN, I haven’t received anything from you since 4:22, and I responded to it around 5
Ratelle well deserved
Rod deserved it as well but didn’t make it
Park and Ratelle. Worst trade Emile ever made.
Pretty shocked on Ratelle. And serge/lemaire… Hoo boy.
There’s a lot of Ranger rentals on the list.
No Pierre Pilote?
Olga, that’s because our MO was to grab HOF players once they were washed up
That’s Entertainment RR, not smart management.
Potvin Sucks
So does Billy Smith
Olga equal as worst trade he made was Middleton for Ken Hodge
For that matter, So does Booby Clarke…
John Folking Ferguson Made the Middleton trade. May he sit in Hell, right between Hitler and Stalin.
Can’t argue with too many choices for greatest 100. I’m not sure that too many current players should have been included. Jagr for sure, maybe Ovechkin. The others have too much career left to be included yet. If their careers ended today, would they still be on the top 100 list?
I personally think it is absurd that Toews and Kane made that list. But whatever…
That’s kinda what I was saying. And I’m a Black Hawks fan. Not yet, not yet.
Olga the NHL has a weird obsession with the Black Hawks. Naming 3 of the only 6 active players to make the list from that one team is over the top. No wonder Malkin suddenly developed a “lower body injury” and had to miss the all star weekend…
No real argument here, I think they were obsessed with the 3 Cups. But Folk Malkin anyway.
Toews & Kane bothered me too, but so did Billy Smith.
Is Potvin sucks still allowed?
No Rod Gilbert is a little silly. Duncan Keith? Really?
Duncan Keith (all due respect) is the only example I need to support my opinion that these modern day NHL “top anything” shows are BS and a gimmick. thus I have no interest in it.
No Slava Fetisov? No Alex Mogilny? Larionov?!
MALKIN?!
RIGGED!
Zubov? Kovalev?! Slava Kozlov?!
without Kozlov, Fetisov, Fedorov, Larionov, Konstantinov there is no Red Wings dynasty. Stoopid NHL.
Mackinnon vs. McDavid … The winner gets a Mcmuffin.
I think Mackinnon is faster….
John Scott snubbed again.
and Aaron Voros too.
Duncan Keith is the Clark Gillies of this list
The 58 people who voted on this thing.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3O18C0WMAUROBk.jpg
Christine Simpson is obviously Duncan Keith’s grandmother.
No one is really getting excited about this silly list are they? It was just an attempt by NBC and the NHL to get someone to watch NBCSN last night. Award shows are all dumb. This was worst than most of them.
I’d actually argue Keith deserves it more than Toews.
CCCP, while those players were fantastic, a lot of their best hockey was outside of the NHL. In the NHL, they were important parts of the Wings, but not top 100.
Malkin, on the other hand, is a travesty.
BTW, Fedorov rightly made the list.
I’m going to put up a go time post for the game tomorrow, then starting on Monday we’ve got some great guest blogs lined up. Really great stuff. So great that I saved them for Monday just so they get the attention they deserve.
La-da-da-da-dahh
It’s the mothertruckingone and only D-O-double-G (Snoop Dogg!)
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/snoop-dogg-doesnt-do-radio-edits-1791739336
This is fogging hilarious!
Wonder if Trocheck is faster than Grabner…another reason these “records” in all star competitions aren’t very credible
They were saying that Larkin got a running start, while McDavid went from a standing start. Which makes the record bogus. As if it wasn’t bogus anyway.
Ratelle my favorite Ranger, loved how he played. But him in, Malkin out? Please.