The Rangers dropped another winnable game last night, this time in Toronto against hte Leaves. While the continued good overall defensive play is welcome, the lack of scoring is not. Are they holding their sticks too tight? Perhaps, though they have had quite a few good chances that just don’t find the back of the net. Some have said they are not elevating the puck and making life more difficult for the goalies, others say they need to get more men netfront and make more chaos. I’ll chose all of the above.
The only Ranger goal last night came at 04:51 of the third period off a deflection of a Schneider shot by our happy Finn, Parssinen (1), who played last night in place of Brodzinski. Parssinnen certainly made the most of his 08:41 TOI. Toronto scored early in the game with a PPG by Knies (2) at 11:48 of the first.
The OT didn’t even make it a minute before the Rangers were sent to the showers. Panarin, first in the offensive zone, sent a cross ice pass to Zibanejad, who had just come on the ice for what should have been a great one-timer. Except he wiffed and was beaten to the lose puck behind him by Reilly and eventually to Matthews (4) for the winner.
Not much more to say; losing the right way is probably more correctable and longer term beneficial than winning at pond hockey and pretending you are good?
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The Rangers will remain on the road and face Les Habitants, Saturday night at 19:00 EDT telecast by MSG, SNE, TVAS and CITY. Hockey Night in Oh Canada, eh? Get a two four boys!
97 responses to “Rangers 1, Leaves 2 (OT)”
There is no such thing as losing the right way.
I assume Panarin will score a goal sometime this season. Mika’s shooting is starting to remind me of Marty St. Louis’s last season with the Rangers. I hope I am wrong.
Has any team ever averaged <2.0 GF for an entire season? Sully and Drury have changed the culture. I hope it doesn't settle in as losing close, low scoring games.
Top 6 shooting percentages all below career averages… unlikely that continues…Happy with the defense against some top team no less in addition to the compete in all 3 zones. Parsnip was noticeable and used his size..probably bought himself some more ice time
Cuylle has top-6 syndrome now and seems to be trying to overcomplicate his once simple but effective game
Bottom 6 has to continue to forecheck, cycle and grind to keep NYR in games as new structure offers less space for free-styling (Bread, Meeka).
if nothing else, Bread may decide he doesn’t want to be a plugger on his last season of a deal and be open to moving on sooner than later.
PP has to come thru; Loafs scored on one of theirs; NYR, not so much.
No mojo in the dojo
They need more N/S movement on PP1 and less pass and twirl. You don’t have to be right in front of the paint but at least try to get some people inside of the circles.
The wiff was bad but I thought the snow angel worse. One was bad luck, the other a conscious decision. Fox really can’t be doing stupid things like that at this stage of his career.
Carey I get your point but losing pond hockey games would be worse.
Mackey to hartford
Laffy and Meeka don’t like going inside the circles. Put Remper on PP1 to create some traffic and let Meeka go back to one timers where there is no traffic
glad bobbyo is not the coach
8 d still up including soucy and morrow
UPDATE: Connor Mackey has been assigned to the Hartford Wolf Pack.
But at least he got to go out to dinner in Toronto first 🤣
I’m not suggesting anyone be a traffic cone inside the circles on the PP. Just that you need to be getting guys in and out of that area to keep the defensemen moving and provide a real opportunity to get some AV grade A’s.
Also, while happy to see the 4th line getting time and making good use of it, including Rempe on PP2, let’s not put the cart before the giant. More appropriate to put Cuylle in the netfront role. LaCoast most definitely does not like going there and keeps his stays as short as possible.
agree with beezle on cuylle
You guys aren’t gonna give me credit as parsnips pseudo agent?
2 games played. Assist and Goal on a team that can’t score. That line way better with him. Chemistry with Raddysh and Laba He caused the turnover that made that goal happen too!
Vince owes him an apology for his podcast take
Cuylle looks like better fit with Mika bread
Please end the Sheary experiment. Would rather have berard playing the undersized energy guy. Or Perrault for top 6 skill while Trocheck hurt.
but Remper is creating more offense than Cullye…at least so far
Meeka with Laffy and Bread …can they can get any softer? Put Miller with Laffy and see if he can wake him up
Bread – Meeka – Sheary
Laffy – Miller – Cuylle
Let Sheary play the Blackwood role
More importantly, put the young ones w JT
Why is Fox on pk with 5 other defensive minded Dmen playing?
Agree with both SN!
hartford article
LaCoast is not waking up
Mika belongs behind a sound board
Fox ain’t getting faster
Panarin belongs in the KHL.
Beez is on the ball.
I love st pete
But respectfully disagree with the last post
All those mentioned are going to be fine this year. Have faith young man!!
You know he’s sharp as a tack,
But he won’t lend me his Cadillac.
Haven’t been watching much of the games but if I had to logically figure out why the rangers struggle to score goals is because the core of the teams style isn’t a match for the north/south game. That is a big problem and not easy to fix. Last year they played pond hockey, scored a lot but gave up a lot. This year team plays good defense but doesn’t score much. Anyway you cut it, it’s another season of probably missing the playoffs.
On a very positive note. The coverage in the d zone is 100% better then last year. They actually look like a real NHL team. With all the good things we have seen from the 4th line a goal every 3 or 4 games would be nice.
Have to agree with those who have been championing Parsnips. He does make the 3rd line better. But like someone else said he smiles less then Kapo which I find amazing.
Now if power play can score it might not be a horrible season;just not great.
Last thing. How many of you when Kenny said that Toronto had not scored yet on their PP and we had not given up a goal on PK knew what was coming next.
Reminds me of when Red Light Sal would never saw the words :shutout” util last few seconds. Onward to Montreal and victory, LGR
Obviously you gotta take this kind of stat counting with a heavy grain of salt but I looked it up anyway…
The rangers #2 in NHL in High Danger Chances For and #2 in High Danger Chance For % (since you care that they’ve played 2 more games than half the league).
Who is generating all these High Danger Chances? Rempe-Carrick-Edstrom have 35% of them despite lesser ice time than the top six gang.
those are 5v5 numbers btw
he’ll be 34 in 2 weeks. 35 next oct.
i would not go more than 2 or 3 yrs. not sure i’d even do that.
He’s not coming back unless he gives a steep discount
wwpd that is some crazy stats on the high danger!
But what we really need are the extreme danger stats ! Or maybe we could get Mollie to do them up in the post 9/11 danger color codes 🤣
The salient question is: Does Panarin’s style of play fit with what the coach/gm expect the NYR style of play to be one, two, three years from now? If not, it matters not the term, dollars or if Panarin plays to recent form as he’s square peg for round hole.
I read panarin isn’t interested in a discount so at the trade deadline the smart move is to trade him. He has a NTC so find a team on the list and trade him and recoup some assets. That is what a smart organization does.
Beezle, no his style of play does not fit what the new system does as I’ve said before and that goes for some other high profile players but it will be hard to trade some of them like Zbanajad. The core is not meant for this style of play, big issue.
JT miller is the only one from the core that fits the new style of play.
I have never been a big fan of Panarin. The real problem is that there is no viable replacement for him. Rangers are in the mushy middle, so they are not getting a game changing draft pick to replace him and there is not going to be anything available on the FA market, unless Kempe doesn’t sign with Kings and wants to play at MSG, which is unlikely.
Tommy unfortunately 🍞 has an unlimited NMC so there is no lousy you just gotta hope he’s willing to move someplace that will offer more than a bag of pucks in return.
lets trade panerin now so Sheary can be in the top 6 the rest of the year!!!! yayyyyy
CC, not his agent but still agree with you on Parsnips over various other replacement level guys
Good to know there is at least one or two likeminded people here wwpd !
Good teams figure out how a 100 point player fits in the system ..if he doesn’t come back it’s because of the price
Panarin had 1 season of a 100 points. The year when the rangers loved to play pond hockey so let’s take it easy on that front. Also, good teams don’t change a players style to fit there system. Good teams trade players that don’t fit there system and bring in players that do. Nice try bud.
Example, Florida traded for tkachuk and Bennett because they fit there north/south style of play which is the style you need to win a cup.
Last year Florida traded for marchand, why, because his style fits the panthers north/south game. You get the picture.
Florida made those trades because the players they traded for tkachuk and Bennett did not fit there system. That is what a good team does.
If the rangers are going to be a north/south system, panarin doesn’t fit that style. You can’t put a square in a round hole. Reason why the rangers haven’t won a cup since 94. Neil Smith traded away all his young players and brought in the players that fit the north/south style you need to win a cup. It’s not rocket science.
The problem with the rangers is most I f there core do not fit and because of the cap these days your stuck with them. Rangers aren’t winning a cup anytime soon. I would love to be wrong but I doubt it.
Cc, not saying put sheary in the top six but panarin doesn’t fit the system, neither does the core except miller. I’m interested in the rangers winning a cup again. This team is built half a@@.
Panerin is basically a right handed Patrick Kane
Didn’t he win some cups?
Laffy can be taught to be north south
Cuylle is north south
Trocheck
Miller
Mika is more North south this year than ever before and a league leader in shots
The entire 3rd and fourth line is north south
So, the only east western I see are panarin and fox
I guess I disagree that this team is not a north south type team
Marchand is not north south per se either since you brought him up.
And Just because Florida has won recently, doesn’t mean they are the only ones that can.
Recency bias?
I mean Tampa won and they had a bunch of different style players as their core.
Wasnt Detroit unstoppable for a couple year with the magician Datsyk ?
Kane was a much better player and Chicago’s core was built for the north/south game so your statement makes no sense reason why Kane won cups.
Hurricanes are more north south than anyone and they haven’t won anything playing that way
I think being able to adjust your game and building a balanced team is the key. Not just dreaming there were mor tckachuks available (which their aren’t)
Tommy. Your talking about core
Besides Kane in top 6 they had toews
They had hossa
They had balance. Grit. Coaching.
What are you talking about?
By the way, Blackhawks traded panarin off there team.
That is what I’m talking about. That’s what you need and Kane has it more than panarin does, jeez.
Kane was in a team where the core had the grit and all the tangibles you need to win a cup.
Sorry to not jump on the bandwagon. I like north south play. But my point is, besides panarin, the team has players who can and do play that way
I think most successful teams have a mix of players
And you need to mix in some skill.
Who do you consider our core?
Like i said with the prior post. Many in our core can play that way. But a young guy like Laffy needs a coach like sully to teach him the system he wants to see him work in
Your point is your comparing Kane with panarin and Kane won cups. Doesn’t make sense.
Chicago traded panarin very early because they didn’t need two Kane’s
Cc, I agree but most of the core in this team does not. That is a big problem that because of the cap you can’t fix.
Then It’s impossible to get you off tilt
All I kept reading was north south north south Florida
I pushed back a little with specific example and all you seem to argue is you want panarin off the team
But. I see it’s not worth having any debate here.
Please use specific names of “most of the core”
Who are you taking about?
Really, you spoke to the GM for Chicago. Kane was a lefty, panarin a right. They traded panarin because he did not fit the system.
If they both were lefty or right I might agree with you.
Sheesh dude. It was an opinion. And panarin was so young they traded a peice like the rangers did in 94 to go on a cup run
They didn’t trade panarin in his prime.
The lefty righty means nothing ! It was that they didn’t want or “need” two players with such similar skill sets and same size etc. they needed to balance out the type of attack they were looking for.
I assume this.
I don’t know this
Ok. Gotta go to work. Will check in later hopefully
Laffy, Zbad, fox, panarin and basically the talent of the rangers top six aren’t scaring anybody.
Panarin top 5 scorer last 5 years…best free agent signing they ever made …and he will lead the team in scoring again. Get in all the hate this season before he leaves
My concern is that if they don’t have some success soon they may stop buying in to what Sully is doing and go back to pond hockey to try to generate offense. They need to get a few wins in the next few games to get some positive reinforcement for their hard work. They have ignored several coaches already and don’t have a great attention span.
Mika be like ‘thank god finally that half a**ed blog goes after someone else!’
Guys (gals?) I think there is a reasonably good chance that the blog makes it to 450,000 comments (since inception) this season. A cookie for the non-admin poster who gets closest on the high side! Talked to CCCP about this over the off-season and he will have a special gift for whomever gets #500,000 whenever that may happen 😁
Just wait until chatgpt finds the blog!
Cutting Meeka some slack because he looks like he’s actually skating so far ..still think he will be on 3rd line eventually
They are getting good looks; when they start to pot a couple, all this will be forgotten; but for now its a little frustrating.
last game they got a point on the road against a playoff team in their conference; not the end of the world.
A Panarin jersey?
What’s the gift? A Mess Hall P Diddy sketch of Mt. St Michael’s, his alma mater?
Not a Mika lover. Agree that he’s behaving this year much more like the 200ft player people were talking about him being a few years ago to explain some lack of consistent playoff scoring. Maybe he’s internalized that’s how he can contribute better now that the scoring touch is off. Stuck with him so hope he can be a guy that fits the mold even if the contract is an anchor.
Also share the concern team will abandon structured hockey and revert to pond, but we haven’t seen it so far! I’ll take it.
Already seeing some (not here) say they need to call up Pero and put him on the top 6 and power play because of the lack of scoring. Typical panic move. Probably same people who complain the loudest that the org is bad at development and rushes its prospects.
Reminder, the Go Time is in the can (not with E3) and will go live at the usual time
Let’s go Rangers!!
On the bright side, NYR’s #93 has more goals than Edmonton’s #97, “right”?
They’ve gotta have tonight’s game. I honestly feel like it’s a must-win, and will be critical to their psyche. If they keep losing like this, old habits will naturally start to creep back in. Sounds silly to say game 6 is a must-win, but I feel like they’re at a mental crossroads …..🤷♂️
Can’t wait for some Gravy Woots!!
Les Canadiens have been pulling wins out of a hat. They’ll be a tougher opponent than the previous two Canadian squads. Their Cole Caufield might have more goals than NYR’s top two trios combined.
They may have little Caufield. But we shan’t be worried because we have Conor sheary filling that role.
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Gravy been busy at praccy getting ready for tonight!
Sully on Robertson, per GGMM:
“We’re really excited about his game… I think his upside is tremendous. We’re excited about where his game could potentially grow.”
Not sure who should be more concerned – Soucy or Vaka9n?
Hmm, why do I think that Sullivan said the exact same thing about Zibanejad’s game? Ah, perhaps I heard it in a dream or something.
What Dreary should have said to Sully B4 jettisoning Kreider:
“You got any talent brave enough to hang in front of the net all season?”
There are a number of issues with the forward skill on the Rangers, mostly over the hill. I love Cuylle but he is not a top line LW at this point in his career, actually he may never be. He belong on the 3rd line with Laba and Parrsinen. The top 2 lines are the problem.
I’ve seen enough of Lafreniere to last a lifetime.
Is it date night in St Pete? that was effective last week