Rangers-5, Coyotes-2

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Good morning, boneheads!

I have a little time this morning, so I figured I’d write a new post. Just a few observations.

  1. A win is a win. And a much needed one at that. But let’s not fool ourselves. Arizona is absolutely awful. Just dreadful. Starting with a goaltender who is not NHL ready, continuing with their defense. Luke Schenn, who would not be considered for #8 in NY played over 20 min. Clendenning ( remember him?) is top 6. And what happened to Hjalmarsson? He played a major role in Chicago. I’m sure the infantile chart boy in Arizona has it all written out perfectly in graphs. It may take another decade to project it into the ice. But what the rush?
  2. Derek Stepan. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for most of the players who ever wore this jersey. Stepan is one of them. You could see how emotional he became during his tribute, and how much it meant to him to play in NY. But as far as his game last night. Woof! Lost the puck to Kreider and failed to cover him going to the net. 1-0. Finished with -3, along with his 1st line teammates.
  3. Speaking of that goal. Zucc’s behind his back pass was a thing of beauty. That’s why he can be so frustrating because he disappears for stretches other times. Ditto Kreider. He was a force on the ice last night. Scored, won many battles, defended his teammate, and accepted a challenge. But why can’t he do it more often?
  4. This team still has ways to go. They won’t win too many games against better opponents. Their transition game is still sluggish, puck support isn’t there, and they still resort to too many hope-for-the-best passes. Gap control? What’s that? All this leads to too many unnecessary giveaways, and a few breakaways, including 2 at the end of  period 1. Pavelec bailed them out.
  5. Kevin Shattenkirk. He has to compensate for his defensive shortcomings by producing more offense, including on PP. He hasn’t done that lately. And PP regressed. I don’t expect him to improve much defensively, but if he doesn’t contribute more on the other side of the ice, this contract may become problematic. I don’t blame him for  taking a penalty that lead to a PP goal against. What he did was a right thing, imo. Defend your teammate, think later. Goes a long way.
  6.  Pavelec was very solid last night. He was composed, well positioned, and made a few timely saves. Maybe working with goalie whisperer is starting to show? Or is it too early? Let’s not get carried away and pronounce him a starter just yet.
  7. Fourth line won the game for them . Boo Nieves showed that he belongs. He was fast, won some battles. And how about that one handed pass that led to Grabner undressing Hill less than a minute after Duclair scored to restore a 2 goal lead? He still has ways to go. He lost a couple of important faceoffs ( to Derek Stepan no less). But finished with 3 points. What Nieves gives this line though is a totally different look. They have speed, skill, and some size. Whether this line can be effective going forward, and in the playoffs, remains to be seen. I just don’t think Buchnevich  should be playing 4th line minutes. PLAYOFFS ?  Did I just say playoffs? 🙂

 

My 3 stars: 4th line. In no particular order ( Hi, Wicky )

 

227 responses to “Rangers-5, Coyotes-2”

  1. Rob Avatar
    Rob

    Great writeup, ILB. Thanks for sharing. Am I first? FIRST!

  2. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    Reposting my post from the earlier, er, post…

    Wow. Brooks with another hatchet job on Hank today – 2 in a week is interesting. I actually agree that Pavs should play Saturday, but not for the outlandish reasons outlined in that column. Claiming that Hank was shaky in “9 out of 10” starts is borderline delusional. Curioser and curioser…

  3. siouxperman Avatar
    siouxperman

    Boo Who!

    Nice to see a win, even if it was against a winless team.

    Boo made the 4th line the first line, my guess he gets a few more games past Halloween season.

    You have to feel for Step, his contract sent him to the desert to die, he was a good Ranger. But his salary was needed for Shatty’s, not sure if that’s an upgrade for this team?

  4. Rangers Report 2.0 Avatar
    Rangers Report 2.0

    Great job, ilb.

    Throw this game out. Wait until they play an NHL team.

  5. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    Hack Wilson.

  6. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    nice work, Captain.

  7. James G Avatar
    James G

    Thanks, ILB. Perfectly summed up.

    Maybe there isn’t a goalie controversy but IMHO Pav should keep the net tomorrow night.

  8. James G Avatar
    James G

    Agree, Doodie. This was one of those no big deal wins but would have been a giant loss. Move on and see how they look in Montreal. Struggling or not they’re an NHL caliber team. WWEBer is starting to heat up on that PP so I don’t expect the same kinda game as last

  9. DaveB Avatar
    DaveB

    Good sum-up.

    (Repost from last thread before we got NEW POSTed)

    I’d say that in a sample size of 5 starts, Hank will give you 1 stellar game, 1 good game, 2 average games, and a stinker. Then again, he’s known as something of a slow starter. So, I hate to say it, we’ll see.

    Couldn’t watch the game last night because of some NHL GameCenter Live technical difficulties, but I did see the highlights. How’d Boo handle himself? I saw the box score, saw the helpers – nice added gravy, but was he competent at the role he was brought up to fill? (Though I do see above that he lost some important faceoffs – being that the offense has no chance of continuing, that’s something we kinda need out of a fourth line center. He’ll work on it)

    Gotta feel for Buchnevich – the team struggles, and HE gets put on the 4th line. A player like him – not the best role to find your offensive game in. But then we he scores and has a good game…”That line is really working, lets keep them together!”

  10. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    I guess my posts on Hank/Brooks are really more about Brooks. Seems to have the knives out for Hank very early on. Suggesting that Pavelec is the “better option” in goal because he had a solid performance against a breathtakingly bad team is odd. He has also misstated Hank’s stats/performances in 2 straight columns making him out to be worse than he actually has been. Being accurate would also have demonstrated that Hank has been struggling, so making up numbers to bolster that position seems like overkill and shoddy journalism. In any event I hope they can put together a few good games – I’m loving the Boo line!

  11. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    This date in hockey history, October 27 1998, Domink Hasek stopped 16 shots to shutout the New York Rangers. This was the fourth consecutive game the Sabres had shutout the Rangers and Hasek extended his scoreless streak over the Rangers to 263:46. However Rangers goalie Mike Richter was the first star of the game as he earned his 19th career shutout against the Sabres with the game ending in a 0-0 tie.

    Vintage hockey.

  12. James G Avatar
    James G

    C3, I posted that yesterday 😉 lol

  13. tommyG Avatar
    tommyG

    my thought exactly, big deal they beat the worse team in the nhl, yawn, move on.

  14. James G Avatar
    James G

    Sittoo just read that article and I agree.
    Brooks loves controversy and he goes looking for a fire before there’s even smoke.
    “Just in case” it happens he can take credit for reporting it first.
    I do think the early and weak goals are an issue w Hank. He will hit his stride at some point. Until then I have no problem with winner keeps the net

  15. James G Avatar
    James G

    Hank should tell Brooks to take his picture off his Twitter

  16. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Ha ha James 🙂

  17. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Hi ilb

    Well done review!!

    I had beep beep buchy boo as my collective 3 stars as well.

    Boo showed he can play in the AHL last night 😉

    He did have a good game, here’s hoping he keeps it going. Much better than the 11/7 “formation”

    Good win but like youse guyses have said, it was the yotes.

    Hack lemon.

  18. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    James
    Your 9:29 sounds like a poster here lol.

  19. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    Agree James. Brooks loves stirring the pot – just don’t see the need to misstate facts etc. Also think Pavs should play Saturday to give Hank a full week off the ice with lots of time to work with Benny. He is going to need rest this year and if Pavelec is going to stay ready he needs to get some starts. I’m not expecting him to be as good as Talbot or Raanta but if he can give them 25 to 30 games that would be great.

  20. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Captain hack sparrow

  21. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    James
    I posted that the day before yesterday 😉

  22. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    ILB
    Nice write up agree,agree,agree! I still say this team goes nowhere without a quality center for Kreider. DD is not that guy.

    Wicky the Hack of all trades!

  23. SN Avatar
    SN

    Need to get off of the ‘Butch is not a 4th liner’ schtick. In order to have a 4th line, you need 1st, 2nd and 3rd lines and this team is really a top 12 with line mates shuffling in and out based upon the coach’s whim and prevailing wind direction. There is no dominant line or top 6 on this squad or if there is, they sure ain’t playing like it!
    .
    Last Night:
    Butch TOI – 14.27
    Zucc TOI – 14:43
    VC TOI – 12:51
    THE TOI – 13:45
    JT TOI – 15:37
    and so on.
    .
    Zucc made a pretty pass; he is at his best with no D around him. He has 2 5v5 assists in 11 games; last night on the 2 on zero and the pass to Staal with the goalie pulled so actually a 6v5.
    But he’s cute, tries hard and is the same size as half the fan base so let’s scream his name…

  24. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Quite a number of Zooks behind the back passes go nowhere or to the opposition. But really where would we be without Hobbits?

  25. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    Echoing SN, take a look at EV TOI last night: Buch had 12:04. Hayes and Grabs led team with 13:46. Zib 13:06. Fewest minutes Boo at 11:56. Can’t get much more even than that. Whether you want all four lines so close is an entirely different discussion with many pros/cons.

    Re HL/Brooks – I reread today’s and I have no problem with it. Classic maybe we should play the backup with the starter has had issues. And there is no denying that HL has had issues, and (I assume it is correct) that is damning 3 goals on 1st shot and 3 on 3rd. Wait.. I hear it already ‘but they weren’t his fault!’ Sorry, his job is to make big stops at key times and one of those is early in the game. HL overall play is now at best a little above average with very large tail on both sides of the distribution.

  26. Norm Merton Avatar
    Norm Merton

    I thought Buch had a kind of meh game that showed why he’s been relegated. He capitalized on two horrible plays by the JV goalie, and more power to him that he did so, but… Ditto Kreider, who was there to capitalize on a crazy-good play by Zucc, and good on him not to miss, but he was otherwise his usual coasting self, I thought. You take the win with both hands, but there was not much else to take away from that game. Beating the Preds I thought was impressive, but then the step back next game, now this baby step forward. I don’t think they’re a sub-.500 team at all, but until they go on a run, that’s their reality.

  27. AnthonyM Avatar

    I know everyone is getting the warm and fuzzies about the Vegas Golden Knights, but no expansion team has ever been set to succeed like VGK. As Carp mentioned in a previous post (BTW, great to have you back Carp), Vegas bought their way into a favorable Expansion Draft – and given the money they paid they should have.

    After starting with two road games, Vegas seven straight home games which ends tonight against Colorado. Starting Monday, they play road games in the space of nine days. Of their first 12 games, only four were against playoff teams from last year (DAL, STL, CHI, NYR). VGK finish their road trip with a tour of all three Eastern Canadian teams.

    I wonder if Arizona’s Boy Wonder GM is the running for the Yankees job? Somewhere Dave Tippett is chuckling. Felt sorry for young Adin Hill – the kid has no business having to play in the NHL. Then I realized that the Rangers would be in the same boat of Hank and Pav got hurt because all we have are three kids in the minors.

  28. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    Beezle, I have no problem with Hank not playing Saturday. I do have a problem with Brooks writing columns that contain flat out incorrect stats or nonsense takes. I actually emailed the Post sports editor after the first one pointing out the errors and they corrected the column. In this latest he says Hank was shaky in “9 out of 10 starts.” That’s just untrue. You can argue he was “shaky” in his first 2 and against the Sharks. Certainly not shaky against Montreal or Nashville (wins) and not shaky against Columbus, St. Louis, NYI, or Pitt. Giving up the crap goal at the end of the Pitt game does not make it a shaky game. Regarding the early goals against, I totally agree he needs to make some of those stops. But where in heaven’s name was any semblance of defensive structure in front of him? When the 1st (or 3rd) shot of the game comes off a turnover resulting in a high danger shot directly in front of you it’s a little tough on the goalie. Can and should Hank be better. Absolutely. But I’d argue Brooks can and should be better too.

  29. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    I find it interesting that fans of Fast state that him scoring is not important, and that he plays an unselfish game and does all the little things. Very fair. But those same fans are Zucc fans, and Zucc does none of things that Fast does, and is quite possibly the most selfish player I have ever seen in a Ranger uniform. But hey, Zucc made a nice pass and got a point, so he is great. Backing up to Fast, I don’t dislike the game Fast plays, I dislike how AV uses? And because of that I end up disliking Fast.

  30. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    Anthony

    I don’t think Dallas made the playoffs last year.

  31. Norm Merton Avatar

    Zucc makes a nice pass and he’s selfish? How so? Not a rhetorical question–curious to know how he can be both.

  32. BobbyO Avatar
    BobbyO

    zucc makes a great pass and all we hear is how over rated and selfish he is and should be traded ….not sure who has played well this year..maybe Zibanijad ..Brooks is just stirring pot but no problem with staying with Pavelic for next game..get Hank some rest.. ave made a good point that he is a slow starter. Rangers still defensive structure improving but still need to clean up turnovers

  33. AnthonyM Avatar

    Alex – You are correct. I had 2016 and 2017 mixed up in my head. Yet another reason to pump the breaks a bit on Vegas – although they are doing it their 3rd and 4th goalies (and Sam botched the name of Oscar Dansk).

  34. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    How he can be both what? Selfish and make a nice pass? Is that what you are asking? Zucc plays for Zucc. Stays on the ice ( extended shift) as long as he likes. Does his own thing in his own zone, often leaving his teammates out to dry (see 2014 finals, series winning goal). Holds the puck and skates in circles.

  35. goodguyinsports Avatar
    goodguyinsports

    Is NHL TV this bad every year? I got my monthly fee refunded by my CC after missing two live periods last night, but I’m just going to pay for Center Ice as usual if these issues are common.

  36. Norm Merton Avatar

    Fair enough. He’s out there too long more than I’d like to see (though by now I assume the staff wants that in this possession-crazed league. Same with Hayes) but I think selfish is pushing a bit when he’s constantly looking, to a fault, to set up his teammates. I do find it odd, perhaps a New York thing, that your leading scorer the last 3 of 4 years gets it in the neck as much as he does. And that his size is held against him I find stunning, especially when I think of what he had to go through to gain a roster spot at hockey’s pinnacle.

  37. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    I don’t think his size should be held against him, nor do I think he should be lauded due to his size.

  38. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    And I agree with bdl and others who have pointed out his “habits”.

    As I said the other day he gets way more positive reviews and it’s due to his size imo, if he’s 6’2 he gets the Buchnevich treatment.

  39. Dan Tetrault: djtet Avatar

    Captain Zuccarello, come get the Stanley cup!

  40. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    Question to you about Zucc. Do you think AV told him a few times not to overstay his shifts? And if yes, do you think he’s ignoring his coach?

  41. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Good guy
    From what I understand last night there was some sort of “broadcast issue” across several nhl carriers last night with HD feeds.

    We’ve had centre ice on direct tv for several years and never had any issue and last night we had no HD feeds for any of the games.

    The wife was on the phone with them giving them all kinds of hell about not having any of the games n HD when I got home from work.

    She was told it was across carriers.

    It was back to HD for the normal start time games here.

  42. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    I think the coach often looks the other way. Like every coach that has ever coached, AV has his guys. Zucc is one of AVs guys.

  43. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Ilb
    You would “hope” the coach would have addressed it, and yes he probably is.

    Zucc can’t be happy after losing Hagar then BGB 😉

  44. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Hellooooo! Jeff Gorton we need a center like right now Hello! Hello! Anybody in there? Time to wake up! Wake up Jeff wake up! If you don’t wake up soon we’re calling Wicky The Hack Of All Trades!

  45. cooscoos Avatar

    Wick, don’t forget about Del Zaster.

  46. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Every team needs a Ring bearer! Zoooooooooooc

  47. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Wicky,
    It does seem that Zucc carries himself differently since the Hagelin trade, and then the Brassard trade. Sort of like it hit him that it’s a business, and he could be next. He has had an I don’t give a crap what anybody thinks way about him. I noticed it last season, and it has carried over to this season. For those getting ready to jump me, I am not saying Zucc does not care about winning, just that the Ranger organization means less to him now.

  48. cooscoos Avatar

    Thanx for the write-up, ilb.

  49. cooscoos Avatar

    THE fights with his thumbs sticking up.

  50. SN Avatar
    SN

    Shatty couldn’t resist a -1 even in a 3 goal win with no PP goals.
    On a pace to be -52
    But that stat means nothing so stop it!

  51. cooscoos Avatar

    Remembering what happened to Zookie, it’s a credit to him that he’s even around.

  52. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    You really believe that’s the case, BDL? That he is AV’s guy and he lets him get away with things like overstaying his shifts? And the whole team knows it? It comes from an experienced, confident coach who’s had a great track record managing in this league.

  53. cooscoos Avatar

    Watching Boo on the ice and on the bench, I get the impression he will try to do whatever it takes to stay here. Doesn’t mean he will, but nice to see humble effort.

  54. James G Avatar
    James G

    Alex Kovalev was 6’2 220lbs and he was guilty of the same habits. Probably had 3x as much talent and skill as Zucc but he frustrated fans most of his career because of those habits. And he wasn’t anyone’s “guy”

  55. cooscoos Avatar

    I hesitate to say it, but Topo might not be totally all there, as it were. From what he went through, I wouldn’t have the huevos to blame him for some peccadilloes.

  56. James G Avatar
    James G

    And not for nothing but if you think that Zucc’s problem is his friends getting traded and not the fact that he’s 30 years old now and has suffered a major life/career threatening head injury not too long ago then I think you guys are mistaken. He’s said publicly it sucks, but I don’t think his level of play has anything to do with trades. At least I hope not. Although to your point he did take less money to stay here with those guys.

  57. James G Avatar
    James G

    Coos, you’re not all there and we still keep you around so why not Topo too? 🙂

  58. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    To some extent yes, I do believe that. There are a few possibilities. One AV doesn’t notice. Two he noticed, but it doesn’t bother him much, looks the other way. Three, it’s what he wants Zucc to do. We all seem to acknowledge that Zucc is overstaying his shifts. There does not seem to be much disagreement about that. It’s the why that’s the question.

  59. James G Avatar
    James G

    If Lundqvist and Price start tomorrow night’s game I’m going to guess there’s at least one goal in the first 3:19 of play.

  60. James G Avatar
    James G

    BDL, If that is the case (I’m oblivious with all the other stuff about this team that makes me crazy) it could have a lot to do with the fact that they’ve played a lot of games with 11 forwards.

  61. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    James,
    I did not say his level of play changed because his buds were traded. I think his attitude has changed.

  62. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    It’s not just this year James.

  63. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    If you manage a large group of people at any significant level, you don’t have favorites. Or at least you don’t show you do. In fact, in some cases favorites get harsher treatment. Otherwise you lose that group very fast.

  64. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    I’m thinking about doing a ticket contest. I got Doodie’s permission.
    Any objections?

  65. Norm Merton Avatar

    To Zucc, it’s not a perfect example by any means, but the Penguins like to have Crosby out there as much as he can stand and still keep his energy. Zucc is no Crosby, but he’s the Rangers best forward by the numbers. No surprise if we learned the coaches don’t mind him getting the most ice time.

  66. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    Pavelec in net tomorrow as per LB

  67. AnthonyM Avatar

    ILB – Winner gets two tickets. Loser gets four. 🙂

  68. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Norm,
    I am a big fan of playing your best players a lot. Zucc is one of those. But I don’t think taking longer shifts is the way to get there. More shifts is the way to get there.

  69. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    We are two or three more Pavlec starts away from Hank turning on AV.

  70. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    Norm I think a player can be selfish, hold the puck way to long and still care about winning. They are not mutually exclusive. Zuc skating circles, looking, looking, looking.. well maybe pass to somebody else and give them the chance to set up the score if you can’t see it? I have no doubt that Zuc cares about winning and like wise, none that he fails to realize holding the puck as much as he does is selfish (and perhaps detrimental to winning). I do wish he would shoot more.

  71. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    Glad Pavelec is starting because Hank can use the rest and they need a good backup. Pissed that Brooks is doing a “happy dance” about it.

  72. cooscoos Avatar

    Brooks is getting back at Hank because Hank is rich and, if Torts is correct, someone took Brooks’ lunch money every day at a bus stop.

  73. cooscoos Avatar

    Humiliate #30 enough and he just might demand a trade. – from Machiavelli’s “The Prince.”

  74. cooscoos Avatar

    I admit that I am not all there. I’m a few skate sprints short of a full hockey practice. 🙂

  75. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    Haha Cooscoos! Brooks is a piece of work though.

  76. cooscoos Avatar

    Everyone remember when Torts went off on Brooks with the bus stop routine?

  77. James G Avatar
    James G

    “Pavelec gets the start as was suggested first here by yours truly”

  78. James G Avatar
    James G

    “In other news people need air in order to breathe. A Post exclusive”

  79. James G Avatar
    James G

    And boy AV sure is smiling big today in that press conference after beating a team that came in 0-9..

  80. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    James, yup and AV intimating that the team struggles were Hank’s fault is pure gold. Sometimes I actually wish that the Hank haters get their way and he is traded. I think he could benefit from a fresh start in front of a more structured team. And then Pavelec can guide the Rangers to the promised land…

  81. E3 (Hank is worse than average) Avatar
    E3 (Hank is worse than average)

    Some men see things as they are and ask why. Hank dreams of stopping pucks but can’t.

  82. E3 (Hank is worse than average) Avatar
    E3 (Hank is worse than average)

    Hank “the work goes on, the cause endures, hope still lives, and the dreams of me being good again shall never die”

  83. E3 (Hank is worse than average) Avatar
    E3 (Hank is worse than average)

    Hank is at his best behind the net handling the puck. Dude should have been a forward.

  84. E3 (Hank is worse than average) Avatar
    E3 (Hank is worse than average)

    AV needs to let Zucc stay on the ice for 60 minutes. One uber long shift.

  85. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    How long did Keenan make AK-47 skate? 7 min?

  86. Norm Merton Avatar

    Pavelic back in strikes me as a bad idea unless Hank is tweaked. Hope it works!

  87. Norm Merton Avatar

    *Pavelec*

  88. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    3-7-2 Sunday morning. You heard it here first. The Canadiens stink but they are not a bunch of coyotes on skates!

  89. SN Avatar
    SN

    Zucc can handle long shifts due to the rest he gets in Dzone

  90. SN Avatar
    SN

    Salmon Joe said when Nash starts scoring, the goals come in bunches.
    Very streaky!

  91. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Nugent Hopkins or Duchene?

    Thoughts?

  92. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    BREAKING: Henrik Lundqvist has been traded to a Playboy mansion foe a Swedish model with fake boobs.

  93. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    I’d rather Duchene because I think he’s a better player. I would be not be against RNH. He reminds of Brassard in that he has not reached his potential, but a change of scenery may bring out that potential.

  94. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    At the end of the 2nd period when the Rangers are killing off a 4 min. penalty Nashless breaks in on the RW and snaps a wrist shot on Hill. That shot had no zip on it whatsoever. The big pillow IMO is done as a goal scorer! Trade him asap!

  95. Alex Avatar
    Alex
  96. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    St Pete

    I think it’s better to wait until the deadline when most of his salary is paid. Otherwise will just traded bad contract for bad contract. At the deadline true contenders can afford to take on his salary and we’d get good young assets.

  97. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Our friend Wojtek “Woof” Wolski made team Canada.

    That roster is beyond terrible. These Olympic games will not be joy to watch lol

    http://www.bardown.com/hockey-fans-react-to-team-canada-s-pre-olympic-event-roster-1.897223

  98. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Alex
    I know you’re right I would just like see him gone asap if possible.

  99. Rangers Report 2.0 Avatar
    Rangers Report 2.0

    The goals come in bunches for Nash. Like, he scored a whole bunch before 2015-2016 but now, not so much.

    and/or

    The goals come in bunches for Nash. Like, he scored a whole bunch in the regular season but in the playoffs, not so much.

  100. Rangers Report 2.0 Avatar
    Rangers Report 2.0

    Christian Thomas is on Canada’s roster. Suck on that, Kristo!

  101. goodguyinsports Avatar
    goodguyinsports

    The only Winter Olympic event worth watching now is women’s hockey.

  102. Alex Avatar
    Alex
  103. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    I heard two Ranger rumors today. I don’t love repeating trade rumors, but I do like hearing them. But for fun I will repeat them. The first is, Vesey, Holden, and Graves to Montreal for Galchenyuk. Supposedly the Habs for this season only pick up the difference in money. After that it’s all Rangers. The second one is Gropp and a pick to Vegas for the Russian center. The money doesn’t really work on this one, but that’s what I heard. The thought on the Rangers side is, Galchenyuk would play wing, and the Russian would slide into center. This is from someone who occasionally hears stuff. To say it’s a source of any kind is a real stretch.

  104. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

  105. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Wick
    I would rather have Duchene but both are a better option by far than Day-R-Nay between Kreider & Zucchini.

  106. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Bdl,
    Vesey, Holden & Graves is a bit high for yuk! I would do Holden, Gropp, & a pick.

  107. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Eli,
    Of the two, I thought that one made more sense.

  108. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    “Supposedly the Habs for this season only pick up the difference in money. After that it’s all Rangers”
    BDL, does it mean they retain his salary for 1 year only? If yes, it’s not allowed by CBA. Retained salary transaction applies to the entire contract and can’t be changed in numbers from year to year.

  109. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    Liked your article Carp. I’ve read a few of the pieces on the Habs by their “fan” base – yikes! Them booing Price last night reminded me of the MSG fans booing Hank last year. I really hate when that happens to guys who give so much to their teams, but it’s not surprising given the standard they both need to live up to with the big contracts etc. I am worried about the game Saturday because it feels like Montreal is due to have an offensive explosion. They can’t keep putting up 35-40 shots a game (some “good looks” too) with nothing to show for it. Quick was outstanding for the Kings last night – hope Pavs can bring it again because I’m afraid they are going to need, as AV likes to say, an A game from him.

  110. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    so ugotz.

  111. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Ilb,
    I honestly don’t know what that means. Just repeating what was said. What you just said crossed my mind when I was told that. Is that legal?

  112. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    Thanks Sittoo. Wish I could write exactly how I feel and think about the team and its situation, but you know …

  113. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    And please don’t put to much into what I said. It’s just a guy who I see occasionally at work who is a big hockey fan. He knows someone, who knows someone. I just repeated for conversation sake.

  114. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    Someday Carp, when you are old and gray and not beholden to the “suits”, promise us that you will do a “tell-all” book. Now that would be a
    fun read…

  115. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    I also know someone who knows someone. 🙂

  116. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    Actually working on that idea, Sittoo. But obviously will steer clear while Dolan is signing my occasional checks. And I’m already old and gray. Thx.

  117. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    BDL, tell him to read the CBA if he wants to sound legit when he makes up trades :-).

  118. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    Carp, I’m positive it will be way more entertaining and insightful than Avery’s book (which I wasted a night reading…). And he’s hitting the Times bestseller list. So get on that!

  119. cooscoos Avatar

    First real review of Avery’s ‘book’ from someone in club bonehead, so I can believe it. ‘Wasted a night reading …’ Had a feeling that anything Avery ‘wrote’ would be self-serving crap.

  120. cooscoos Avatar

    So – Joe Girardi got canned because he was too tough on the rich and soon to be even richer ‘kids.’ Add the Yankees to my growing list of sports teams to ignore.

  121. cooscoos Avatar

    I yoosed to no someone who yoosed to no secret things, but I lost tract of him.

  122. Booby Avatar
    Booby

    I don’t like to use the term “for example”. I prefer other examples such as “such as”, for example.

  123. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    I know the guy behind the guy behind the guy.

  124. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    Hack “Jacksaw” Reynolds.

  125. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    Carp, I have a question I hope you can answer. Brooks is doubling down on his criticism of Henrik and the concept that AV needs to ride Pavelec’s “hot hand” against the Habs. Putting aside for a moment the dubious concept that the win against the woeful Yotes gives him a “hot hand,” my question is whether the beat reporters are writing columns that the “brass” wants written? Is there a desire at this point to ratchet up the heat on Hank to maybe get him to agree to be moved? Not sure you can give us the real scoop but I am curious about this. I don’t think Henrik has had a “good start” but I also don’t think he has been the root of the problems plaguing this team. Thoughts?

  126. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    Knowing the brass as I do, and knowing Brooks, I doubt he’s writing what they want written. He did get the rare one-on-one with AV today, though, and got another one over the summer … FWIW. Nobody else has gotten those. The team and MSG barely recognize the other media outlets, especially the persona non-grata Daily News.

    I don’t believe the Rangers want to put heat on Lundqvist. Additional pressure is not really what he needs, and 11 games into the season would not be the time he needs it. But I do think he’s a major root of the problems. They cannot win with him playing this way, and that goes for the captain too.

    I’d be more inclined to think Lundqvist’s knee needs a couple more days after that collision Monday. he missed practice Tuesday. I hardly think Pavelec has a “hot hand” after beating that Glendale Chartboys team that you and I and four other boneheads could thrash.

  127. Hockey Sittoo Avatar
    Hockey Sittoo

    Thanks Carp. Kind of what I thought but then saw some “takes” that they wanted to move him out in the same way they did to Melo. And yes, he needs to be lots better…

  128. Olga Folkyerself Avatar
    Olga Folkyerself

    Carp- you need an alias on this blog so you can talk freely. I authorize you to use Rico Folkyerself if you want to.

  129. cooscoos Avatar

    Too much pressure on Donuts with the C. Kills me to think that Secretariat was correct re: vocality – though Dunkin 27 seems always available to answer the same tired questions, as is Hank. Impossible to remove the ‘C’ unless he asks for release, but a true Captain should be more than just as good player, he should be also fiery and clamorous. And, sadly, I see no one here who resembles that definition.

  130. Norm Merton Avatar
    Norm Merton

    Did not know Lundqvist was indeed tweaked. ‘splains it.

  131. cooscoos Avatar

    Miller the Driller, cavity filler, has the inside scoop on what’s going on with this franchise, but it’s like pulling teeth trying to get any info out of him.

  132. cooscoos Avatar

    Norm – stop going out to dinner at fancy restaurants and watch the games and you’d see the tweaks. 🙂

  133. Olga Folkyerself Avatar
    Olga Folkyerself

    Chicago – Nashville 0-0 in the first. Real Hockey.

  134. cooscoos Avatar

    Hack is beautiful

  135. cooscoos Avatar

    Hack Nicholson – “If you’re looking for people who give a chit, they’re over there.”

  136. cooscoos Avatar

    ‘hot hand,’ LOL

  137. Norm Merton Avatar
    Norm Merton

    If only, coos. Parent conferences last time. Fancy restaurant next time, I hope.

  138. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    I’m old and gray to Carp it’s not so bad. I just hope I’ll see another cup!

  139. cooscoos Avatar

    Brooks’ favorites. –
    Country Singers: Johnny Rivers, George Strait
    Ballplayers: Jason Bay, John Wetteland
    Caribbean singer: Billy Ocean
    Gas station: Gulf

  140. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    I know you guys probably won’t agree but the biggest problem wih this cotton candy crew is Rick (good looks) Nash!

  141. James G Avatar
    James G

    F: Me-Wicky-Carp

    D: ILB-C3

    G: Doodie

    ^ this lineup could beat AZ as long as Clayton Keller didn’t play lol

  142. Norm Merton Avatar
    Norm Merton

    I’ll not agree with you first, Eli. I love how Nash plays, hope he gets some goals he doesn’t deserve to match the ones the snake bit.

  143. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Galchenyuk is interesting to me. I think he’s a legit change of scenery candidate.

    He’s not really help in the middle at this point, but a very talented and young player.

    Zucc for Galchenyuk

  144. SN Avatar
    SN

    They come in bunches

  145. Norm Merton Avatar
    Norm Merton

    Kreider for Galchenyuk would be your change-of-scenery trade. Young guys who seem to have hit plateaus at their respective orgs.

  146. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    looks like we miss Fleury

    Vegas Golden Knights‏Verified account @GoldenKnights

    Gallant adds that Marc-Andre Fleury will not accompany the team on the road trip.

  147. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    VGK just trashed Avalanche 7-0!

    It’s going to be a looooong season for us….

  148. cooscoos Avatar

    “They come in bunches, Sam.”

  149. cooscoos Avatar

    Step has the puck removed from his stick, skates fruitlessly after the perpetrator in sand, watches him bear down on his goalie and score, then says to his linemate Domi, “That was on me.” No chit on you, Sherlock.

  150. cooscoos Avatar

    VGK – Vangeeskook?

  151. Booby Avatar
    Booby

    Pretty sure VGK is the latest menu acronym for a lame vegan dish.

  152. First Time (not for) Long Time Avatar
    First Time (not for) Long Time

    So yo yo yo!! What is up my brethren from another reveren!! Big win yesterday. Huge! But I don’t love them just yet. They’re suspended till they beat a team who won a game this year. Good to see those clowns from NJ give up a deuce in 90 seconds with 30 secs in the game. Haha. But they won in the skilz compo with guys with no skilz. But they are a fast team. Excellent goaltending and above expected defense and scoring. I still hate them. But it’s more fun than getting my heart ripped out through my bladder watching our overpaid underintelligent bunch of lazy clowns muck it up each day.

  153. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    We can agree to disagree Norm, Nash is done. Good looks and nice effort isn’t why he was brought here at 7.9 mil. GOALS!

  154. cooscoos Avatar

    Luc Mucilage doesn’t look like he’s going to stick.

  155. cooscoos Avatar

    Rick Nash, 6’4, 220, Pick Number One Overall, smart, speedy, two-way, gifted far beyond the great bulk of his mere mortal contemporaries, honored, feted and awarded, multiple gold medal recipient, multiple All Star appearances, NHL Foundation Player Award for community service, 1,000+ games – yet with ALL of that and more, here, nearing the end of a remarkable hockey life, he still (sadly) seems to have not remotely lived up to his potential. How can that be? You would have had to witness it to believe it.

  156. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    When the Kreider trade eventually happens, i hope it’s in the east. I want Kreider to come back and shove it down AVs throat as often as possible.

  157. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Seeing is believing coos we are all witness to the marvel known as Rick Nash aka Marshmallow Man!

  158. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP
  159. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Saw that goal live CCCP. I laughed.

  160. cooscoos Avatar

    Elmer hoping to stick.

  161. cooscoos Avatar

    Giants need a reliable running hack.

  162. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Hackleberry Finn

  163. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Bdl

    I laughed too… then I cried.

  164. Papa Bear Avatar
    Papa Bear

    Nash — 1 point & minus 5 in 11 games.
    Salmon Joe continues stating he’s been a “dominant force”
    I say he’s lost his hands

  165. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Dominant farce m

  166. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Dominant farce more like it!

  167. Papa Bear Avatar
    Papa Bear

    They missed the boat on getting anything close to a decent return for Nash….by 2-3 years.

  168. Papa Bear Avatar
    Papa Bear

    Wonder if we could get Linberg back for him?
    Definitely not.

  169. Papa Bear Avatar
    Papa Bear

    Perhaps the Rangers should petition the league and request to start over next year, Vegas expansion draft rules apply.

  170. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    I still think we can get a late first round pick for Nash at the deadline if he’s not hurt at the time. Teams overpay at that time.

    BDL

    This should be AV’s last season here so doubt Kreider would go against him and Rangers. I may be in minority but I don’t want Kreider traded.

  171. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    Papa Bear

    just have to pony up $500 million or more to the league plus extra to the Devils and Isles for infringing on their territory.

  172. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Alex,
    I don’t want Kreider traded, but I want Kreider traded.

  173. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Sioux
    Have the best day you can possibly have bro!

  174. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Fire Gorton. I don’t trust him.

  175. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    Nash has to be a major offensive force given his resume and his conract. Without a doubt. No question. Not even a discussion.

    But, he’s still been their best forward.

  176. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    Miller The Driller. Love that one.

  177. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Alex
    You hit the nail on the head with Kreider I think he doesn’t like Bazooka Joe!

  178. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    And if that’s the case Carp this team is in deep trouble. Good looks, great effort, no results adds up to more loses than wins. Sorry but Nash is irrelevant IMO!

  179. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    This NOT an excuse for Nash, I just wonder if the requirement that he play an zone game keeps his numbers down. During the Bolts finals run, Cooper moved Stamkos to the wing. He did this to free him up from the Dzone, and allow him to put his energy into scoring. I know Nash is already a wing, but man does he back check like a center.

  180. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Have their been a lot of players on this team that have developed and progressed yearly under this coach?

  181. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    wonder what the record might be if the cute little assist-maker and some of the enigmas made an occasional attempt to backcheck.

  182. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    see, no alias needed 🙂

  183. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Cute little assist maker. LOL.

  184. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    cute little assist-maker haha!!

    Took me a sec to get it… he’s so FLUFFY!

  185. Papa Bear Avatar
    Papa Bear

    “Dominant force”? That’s just plain Ridiculous.
    Best forward? Arguable.
    He has little positive affect on his line-mates.
    He’s lost a step,
    lost his hands somewhat,
    falls down too much for a 6-4 220 wing,
    doesn’t win enough puck battles
    and never gets to any rebounds.

  186. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    agree on all of that, Papa. yet 93, 36, 20, 10, 26, 89 … none have been better. you could argue, and i probably should have, that 13 has been better.

  187. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

  188. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    Blue Hackets

  189. Papa Bear Avatar
    Papa Bear

    He’s pretty consistent getting the puck out when it comes his way in the d-zone.
    He’s still good on a poke check and PK.
    He hardly ever gets the benefit of doubt from the referees.
    Don’t think the Rangers ever really had a complimentary center for him to play with.

  190. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    seems to me that when he was at his best, even in Columbus, almost all of his damage was done off the rush.

  191. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    or on breakaways. …

    when he scored 42 or whatever it was a few years ago, a ton of them were on give-and-gos off the rush.

    … and breakaways.

  192. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    There, not their…wtf

  193. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Hackaasens

  194. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    Pretty good on the forecheck in terms of keeping pucks deep and therefore forcing the opponent’s D to work and keeping the puck 200 feet from the Rangers’ net, all of which they don’t do nearly enough.

    but, again, it rarely results in a half-court goal.

  195. Papa Bear Avatar
    Papa Bear

    Oh the lingering heart ache

  196. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    Bonjour mes crétins! Have been looking at some stats this morning and once again seem to be fixated on ga and ta. Fox actually has the stats as ratios making it easier to see where NYR compare to others as well as individual players.

    On the player front, of those who played most games, Grab(2.2), Fast(1.4), Zuc(1.3) led. On the bad side, G(0.2), Klein(0.3), Skjei(0.3). McD was 0.8. The worst of the forwards with game time were Buch and Kreider at 0.5.

    This year so far: Grabner(3.3), Fast(2.0), Zuc(2.0), Nash(1.4), Doritos(1.2). The bad fowards: Buch, THE at 0.4, Vesey(0.5), JT(0.6). Zib is at 0.9

    As a team, in 2015 NYR were 0.7 (15th), in 2016 0.8 (tied 9 with many) and in 2017 so far a dismal 0.6 (22nd). Yes, there are teams worse than NYR in that stat! For reference, they were 0.9(tied 8th) while Kings were 0.5(last). In fact, Kings were last in 13/14, 14/15, 16/17 and next to last in 15/16. Yikes, but at least they won a cup!

  197. Beezle Avatar
    Beezle

    In previous: first group is for 2016/17. The reference to Kings was 14/15 cup run. Left that out, my apologies.

  198. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Wonder if Vegas would eat salary on shipmyhackov?

  199. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Is OEL a righty?

  200. James G Avatar
    James G

    Lefty Wick.

  201. Bdl Avatar
    Bdl

    Chytil is,
    2/3/5 in 5 games.

  202. James G Avatar
    James G

    Carp’s 11:38- exactly and that’s why they’re 3-6-2

  203. James G Avatar
    James G

    235 was the first part of my old home phone number. Way back when we used to have land lines

  204. James G Avatar
    James G

    Shippy the Russian hippy? No thank you. Guy has played less than a hand of NHL games and is already going toe to toe with a management office that handed over 4 + mill before he ever played an NHL game.

  205. James G Avatar
    James G

    Worrisome: even again an 0-9 team guys like Nash, Miller, Zucc and Hayes couldn’t light the lamp. Scoring 4 on the goalie courtesy of Buch and Grabner isn’t the most promising thing for the offense.

  206. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Thanks James re OEL

  207. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    I think shippy has semenov syndrome

  208. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    Tough guy Avery goes soft.

  209. cooscoos Avatar

    Still have land line, James. In case aliens land and cut off cell towers, I will be able to contact civil defense authorities. 235 also, still.

  210. cooscoos Avatar

    #30 his only friend.

  211. CCCP Avatar
    CCCP

    Teach your kids about socialism;
    Make them do chores and give 50% of their pocket money to the lazy kid down the road who they don’t know.

    🙂

  212. cooscoos Avatar

    Ironically, the military is the most socialist group we have going and the military doesn’t even know it.

  213. Admiral Akbar Avatar
    Admiral Akbar

    CCCP keeps it real!

  214. Editor Avatar

    Agree with Papa re Nash; IMHO biggest issue is not playing well with linemates and taking outlandish shots that have no chance of scoring duels to shooting angle and nobody in front. Head is down with puck on stick.
    That and he is soft for any size but particularly for somebody his size.
    He backchecks well? Not as much this season.
    .
    JT has been their most effective forward, hands down, this season.
    .

  215. Norm Merton Avatar
    Norm Merton

    “Cute little assist maker” strikes me as a bit cute.

  216. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    3-1 Canadiens you heard it here 1st.

  217. St Pete Eli Avatar
    St Pete Eli

    Hope I’m wrong!

  218. Papa Bear Avatar
    Papa Bear

    # 2 Gets for this team…..more players who can win puck battles and players who will hold on to the puck to make a play when pressured.

  219. Rick Carpiniello (@RickCarpiniello) Avatar

    J.T.Miller?

  220. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    Good afternoon, boneheads!
    Is this thing on?
    Go Time Post scheduled at 7 pm.

  221. Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill) Avatar
    Wicky (it’s about battle level, will over skill)

    Carp broke the blog

  222. 4everanger Avatar

    It is too OBVIOUS: Nash is criticized endlessly just for a lack of scoring – task, he is OBVIOUSLY was brought for, but, taking a risk of being unpopular here, I have to say – I still believe, he is the most talented Ranger, possessing unique set of skills (physicality is not one of it), plays with heart, never taking any shifts off, and yes, he creats much more so called “A” scores opportunities than anyone else on this team, JT included. The only problem with that is, that quantity didn’t transforms to the quality – i.e. actual scoring. Is it mental, age related reduction of reaction, aberration of sniper’s sight or simply bad luck, I don’t know, but I wouldn’t rush to sign him off yet – I still enjoy watching him playing, more than anyone else on this team and hope for the best… Besides, he has a great personality, very humble guy and his style on and of the ice, is closest to my hockey and human mind. That is my unpopular confession and, please, don’t cliché me with “mancrush” or :bromance” stuff… Just hockey – close and personal.

  223. ThisYearsModel Avatar
    ThisYearsModel

    Bottom line on Nash……..he has never produced to his contract. He would be fine if there was a true stud scorer on the club and he was second fiddle. He cannot handle being the top fiddle. I am sure he is a lovely guy. But at the end of it all, he is a lovely guy that is a millionaire and is without a ring. When I think of the failure in the finals against the Kings……..it is Rick Nash’s mug that I see.

  224. ilb2001 Avatar
    ilb2001

    NEW POST